GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@lukas@lemmy.haigner.me/commented?p=1

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.122
Profiled on
Token
ed2f8a

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 78.40 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.07 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2370
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2959 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1558 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2999 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3001 …}
  +slug: "Hollywood-to-UK-Govt-Investigating-Pirates-Increasingly-Difficult-TorrentFreak"
  +title: "Hollywood to UK Govt: Investigating Pirates "Increasingly Difficult" * TorrentFreak"
  +url: "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/a5fac566-0dcf-41f5-83b7-9e25d47a260b.jpeg"
  +body: """
    Summary: A recent UK government inquiry into the challenges faced by the film and high-end television industry has recently received submissions from major Hollywood studios advocating for KYC (know your customer) rules for hosting providers, similar to banking regulations to identify money laundering. If adopted, this would help them to identify people hosting pirated content.\n
    \n
    > The submissions are united in identifying the same solution to this problem: the UK must implement a ‘Know Your Business Customer’ regime to compel commercial entities (including online intermediaries) to establish the true identity of their business customers as a precondition for selling, and receiving payment for, digital services.
    """
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 52
  +favouriteCount: 289
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700933562 {#2994
    date: 2023-11-25 18:32:42.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3002 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3004 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3006 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3008 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3010 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3012 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#1725
      +user: App\Entity\User {#263 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2370 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1558 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1724 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1724 …}
      +body: """
        Copyright today is shit tho. It’d be more logical to talk about how much it costs the public to maintain a fundamentally broken system to keep a few companies with a dysfunctional business model on life support.\n
        \n
        Rights holders take people and organisations to court for a lot of shit that should be thrown straight out of court. But no no, the people who protect and protected the interests of organisations that benefit from copyright laws wrote the copyright laws. If they couldn’t pass their extremist copyright laws locally, they’d try again nationally, then internationally, until their contradictory and ass-backwards copyright laws got passed. Other countries copied these laws.\n
        \n
        - Copyright laws implicit registration robs the public domain of works made by unidentifiable authors.\n
        - Copyright laws force the digital world to play by impossible rules.\n
        - Copyright laws forbid DRM circumvention, but that contradicts with existing copyright rights.\n
        - Copyright laws forbid digitization of analog media if the judge considers this untransformative or unfair use.\n
        - Copyright laws may allow snippet taxes for daring to use an excerpt of a news article without paying an arm and a leg.\n
        - Copyright laws may forbid fair use, banning reviews, etc.\n
        - Copyright laws force libraries to buy e-books under unfair conditions due to DRM and the digitization edge case.\n
        \n
        … the list goes on. Copyright laws in their current form should be thrown in the trash and burned alive while we can. The EU Copyright Directive is so fundamentally broken that member states postpone enacting the directive into national laws, years after the set deadline. Member states copy and paste the directive, unwilling to spend the effort to revise existing laws to conform to the over-reaching copyright directive.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1700685709 {#1795
        date: 2023-11-22 21:41:49.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
        "@xilliah@beehaw.org"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1718 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1716 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2469 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …}
      -id: 151943
      -bodyTs: "'aliv':238 'allow':171 'analog':157 'arm':187 'articl':183 'ass':104 'ass-backward':103 'author':128 'backward':105 'ban':197 'benefit':74 'book':208 'broken':24,249 'burn':237 'busi':34 'buy':205 'case':219 'circumvent':144 'compani':30 'condit':211 'conform':282 'consid':162 'contradict':147 'contradictori':101 'copi':112,267 'copyright':1,76,80,89,106,115,129,140,150,152,168,191,200,224,244,288 'cost':17 'couldn':84 'countri':111 'court':46,59 'current':228 'd':7,93 'dare':175 'deadlin':264 'digit':133,155,217 'direct':245,256,271,289 'domain':122 'drm':143,214 'due':212 'dysfunct':33 'e':207 'e-book':206 'edg':218 'effort':276 'enact':254 'etc':199 'eu':243 'excerpt':179 'exist':149,279 'extremist':88 'fair':195 'forbid':142,154,194 'forc':131,202 'form':229 'fundament':23,248 'goe':222 'got':108 'holder':40 'implicit':117 'imposs':138 'interest':70 'intern':98 'judg':161 'keep':27 'law':77,81,90,107,114,116,130,141,153,169,192,201,225,259,280 'leg':190 'librari':203 'life':37 'list':221 'local':91 'logic':10 'lot':49 'made':125 'maintain':21 'may':170,193 'media':158 'member':251,265 'model':35 'much':15 'nation':96,258 'news':182 'organis':44,72 'over-reach':285 'pass':86,109 'past':269 'pay':185 'peopl':42,64 'play':136 'postpon':253 'protect':66,68 'public':19,121 'reach':287 'registr':118 'review':198 'revis':278 'right':39,151 'rob':119 'rule':139 'set':263 'shit':4,51 'snippet':172 'spend':274 'state':252,266 'straight':56 'support':38 'system':25 'take':41 'talk':12 'tax':173 'tho':5 'thrown':55,232 'today':2 'trash':235 'tri':94 'unfair':166,210 'unidentifi':127 'untransform':164 'unwil':272 'use':167,177,196 'without':184 'work':124 'world':134 'wrote':78 'year':260"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
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      +apId: "https://lemmy.haigner.me/comment/206915"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700685709 {#1611
        date: 2023-11-22 21:41:49.0 +01:00
      }
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  -id: 15175
  -titleTs: "'difficult':8 'govt':4 'hollywood':1 'increas':7 'investig':5 'pirat':6 'torrentfreak':9 'uk':3"
  -bodyTs: "'adopt':47 'advoc':28 'bank':40 'busi':77,94 'challeng':9 'commerci':82 'compel':81 'content':57 'custom':33,78,95 'digit':105 'end':17 'entiti':83 'establish':88 'face':10 'film':13 'govern':5 'help':50 'high':16 'high-end':15 'hollywood':26 'host':36,55 'ident':91 'identifi':43,53,63 'implement':73 'includ':84 'industri':19 'inquiri':6 'intermediari':86 'know':31,75 'kyc':30 'launder':45 'major':25 'money':44 'must':72 'onlin':85 'payment':103 'peopl':54 'pirat':56 'precondit':98 'problem':69 'provid':37 'receiv':22,102 'recent':3,21 'regim':79 'regul':41 'rule':34 'sell':100 'servic':106 'similar':38 'solut':66 'studio':27 'submiss':23,59 'summari':1 'televis':18 'true':90 'uk':4,71 'unit':61 'would':49"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1700678796
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/8855303"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700592396 {#2980
    date: 2023-11-21 19:46:36.0 +01:00
  }
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   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2370
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2959 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1558 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2999 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3001 …}
  +slug: "Hollywood-to-UK-Govt-Investigating-Pirates-Increasingly-Difficult-TorrentFreak"
  +title: "Hollywood to UK Govt: Investigating Pirates "Increasingly Difficult" * TorrentFreak"
  +url: "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/a5fac566-0dcf-41f5-83b7-9e25d47a260b.jpeg"
  +body: """
    Summary: A recent UK government inquiry into the challenges faced by the film and high-end television industry has recently received submissions from major Hollywood studios advocating for KYC (know your customer) rules for hosting providers, similar to banking regulations to identify money laundering. If adopted, this would help them to identify people hosting pirated content.\n
    \n
    > The submissions are united in identifying the same solution to this problem: the UK must implement a ‘Know Your Business Customer’ regime to compel commercial entities (including online intermediaries) to establish the true identity of their business customers as a precondition for selling, and receiving payment for, digital services.
    """
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 52
  +favouriteCount: 289
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700933562 {#2994
    date: 2023-11-25 18:32:42.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3002 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3004 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3006 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3008 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3010 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3012 …}
  +children: [
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      +user: App\Entity\User {#263 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2370 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1558 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1724 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1724 …}
      +body: """
        Copyright today is shit tho. It’d be more logical to talk about how much it costs the public to maintain a fundamentally broken system to keep a few companies with a dysfunctional business model on life support.\n
        \n
        Rights holders take people and organisations to court for a lot of shit that should be thrown straight out of court. But no no, the people who protect and protected the interests of organisations that benefit from copyright laws wrote the copyright laws. If they couldn’t pass their extremist copyright laws locally, they’d try again nationally, then internationally, until their contradictory and ass-backwards copyright laws got passed. Other countries copied these laws.\n
        \n
        - Copyright laws implicit registration robs the public domain of works made by unidentifiable authors.\n
        - Copyright laws force the digital world to play by impossible rules.\n
        - Copyright laws forbid DRM circumvention, but that contradicts with existing copyright rights.\n
        - Copyright laws forbid digitization of analog media if the judge considers this untransformative or unfair use.\n
        - Copyright laws may allow snippet taxes for daring to use an excerpt of a news article without paying an arm and a leg.\n
        - Copyright laws may forbid fair use, banning reviews, etc.\n
        - Copyright laws force libraries to buy e-books under unfair conditions due to DRM and the digitization edge case.\n
        \n
        … the list goes on. Copyright laws in their current form should be thrown in the trash and burned alive while we can. The EU Copyright Directive is so fundamentally broken that member states postpone enacting the directive into national laws, years after the set deadline. Member states copy and paste the directive, unwilling to spend the effort to revise existing laws to conform to the over-reaching copyright directive.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1700685709 {#1795
        date: 2023-11-22 21:41:49.0 +01:00
      }
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      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
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        "@xilliah@beehaw.org"
      ]
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      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1718 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1716 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2469 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …}
      -id: 151943
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      +editedAt: null
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        date: 2023-11-22 21:41:49.0 +01:00
      }
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  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1700678796
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/8855303"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700592396 {#2980
    date: 2023-11-21 19:46:36.0 +01:00
  }
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   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2370
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2959 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1558 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2999 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3001 …}
  +slug: "Hollywood-to-UK-Govt-Investigating-Pirates-Increasingly-Difficult-TorrentFreak"
  +title: "Hollywood to UK Govt: Investigating Pirates "Increasingly Difficult" * TorrentFreak"
  +url: "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/a5fac566-0dcf-41f5-83b7-9e25d47a260b.jpeg"
  +body: """
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    Copyright today is shit tho. It’d be more logical to talk about how much it costs the public to maintain a fundamentally broken system to keep a few companies with a dysfunctional business model on life support.\n
    \n
    Rights holders take people and organisations to court for a lot of shit that should be thrown straight out of court. But no no, the people who protect and protected the interests of organisations that benefit from copyright laws wrote the copyright laws. If they couldn’t pass their extremist copyright laws locally, they’d try again nationally, then internationally, until their contradictory and ass-backwards copyright laws got passed. Other countries copied these laws.\n
    \n
    - Copyright laws implicit registration robs the public domain of works made by unidentifiable authors.\n
    - Copyright laws force the digital world to play by impossible rules.\n
    - Copyright laws forbid DRM circumvention, but that contradicts with existing copyright rights.\n
    - Copyright laws forbid digitization of analog media if the judge considers this untransformative or unfair use.\n
    - Copyright laws may allow snippet taxes for daring to use an excerpt of a news article without paying an arm and a leg.\n
    - Copyright laws may forbid fair use, banning reviews, etc.\n
    - Copyright laws force libraries to buy e-books under unfair conditions due to DRM and the digitization edge case.\n
    \n
    … the list goes on. Copyright laws in their current form should be thrown in the trash and burned alive while we can. The EU Copyright Directive is so fundamentally broken that member states postpone enacting the directive into national laws, years after the set deadline. Member states copy and paste the directive, unwilling to spend the effort to revise existing laws to conform to the over-reaching copyright directive.
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    ### Crunchyroll\n
    \n
    1. Read the article on account deletion.\n
    2. Submit a support ticket.\n
    3. Get response: pLeASE Be awaRE cRuNChyRoll CustoMEr SUPPorT no lONGEr diReCTLY handleS CUstOmEr Data reQUests FoR gDpR, CCPa, aNd lgPd.\n
    4. Remind yourself that your ticket wasn’t entirely useless. They gave you links to multiple forms to delete your account depending on the jurisdiction.\n
    5. Navigate to “CCPA Request Form” if you live in California. “All Other Requests” if you live outside of California.\n
    6. Select the appropriate form based on whether you live in the “European Union and the United Kingdom,” “Brazil,” or “United States, non-California” region. If you live outside of these regions, send an email to the listed email address. I go with the “European Union and the United Kingdom” region.\n
    7. Indicate that you are a customer.\n
    8. Specify that you want to make a data erasure request.\n
    9. Click on “Crunchyroll, Crunchyroll Games” among the options, disregarding the other unrelated services.\n
    10. Provide your first and last name, email address, and country of residence.\n
    11. Confirm that you own the email address.\n
    12. If you receive an email stating they couldn’t find your Crunchyroll Games account, respond that you don’t possess a Crunchyroll Games account.\n
    13. Sign an account deletion contract with the blood of your newborn.\n
    14. Support *may* delete your account, they didn’t delete my account yet.\n
    \n
    ### Piracy\n
    \n
    Account? What is account? Can you eat account? Is account an instrument?
    """
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      +body: "I didn’t like their service, so I cancelled my account and deleted it like I always do. Not sure why others delete their accounts. Edit: How ironic that they were sued for violating privacy lol."
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    ### Crunchyroll\n
    \n
    1. Read the article on account deletion.\n
    2. Submit a support ticket.\n
    3. Get response: pLeASE Be awaRE cRuNChyRoll CustoMEr SUPPorT no lONGEr diReCTLY handleS CUstOmEr Data reQUests FoR gDpR, CCPa, aNd lgPd.\n
    4. Remind yourself that your ticket wasn’t entirely useless. They gave you links to multiple forms to delete your account depending on the jurisdiction.\n
    5. Navigate to “CCPA Request Form” if you live in California. “All Other Requests” if you live outside of California.\n
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    ### Piracy\n
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      6. Select the appropriate form based on whether you live in the “European Union and the United Kingdom,” “Brazil,” or “United States, non-California” region. If you live outside of these regions, send an email to the listed email address. I go with the “European Union and the United Kingdom” region.\n
      7. Indicate that you are a customer.\n
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      4. Remind yourself that your ticket wasn’t entirely useless. They gave you links to multiple forms to delete your account depending on the jurisdiction.\n
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      6. Select the appropriate form based on whether you live in the “European Union and the United Kingdom,” “Brazil,” or “United States, non-California” region. If you live outside of these regions, send an email to the listed email address. I go with the “European Union and the United Kingdom” region.\n
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        > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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        Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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        And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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        > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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        Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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        No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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        Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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        > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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        People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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        Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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        Oh yeah?\n
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        That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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        Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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        If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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        Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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        Also, I think it’s *still* a software vendor problem. If your software can’t work with the only desktop protocol with a future, then you must contribute to the protocol to create a way to make it work. If you don’t do that, then shit happens, your software breaks, and you had 10 years to contribute to the protocol to fix it. Your risk management was once again exceptional at avoiding doing the necessary work to eliminate a long known risk.
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        > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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        Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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        And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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        > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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        Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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        > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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        No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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        Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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        People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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        Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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        Oh yeah?\n
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        That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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        Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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        If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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        Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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        > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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        Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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        > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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        No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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        Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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        > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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        People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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        Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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        Oh yeah?\n
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        That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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        Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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        If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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        Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
          \n
          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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    > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
    \n
    Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
    \n
    And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
    \n
    > The “dead” Xorg works perfectly with everything. That’s the bar.\n
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    No, it doesn’t. And if it does, then it’s still insecure by design. When I hear statements like these, I get the urge to publish PoC Linux malware code on GitHub that uses X11 specific features to show just how not fine it is.\n
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    > The Wayland choice of pushing complexity onto individual software projects by making them all reinvent a hundred wheels, and onto users by making them hunt down a hundred pieces of software to build a wobbly desktop stack sucks.\n
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    Substitute Wayland for X11 here. Both Wayland and X11 are protocols. X11 is such a lackluster protocol that all implementations died, except that Xorg still has users.
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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    > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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    Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
    \n
    And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
    \n
    > The “dead” Xorg works perfectly with everything. That’s the bar.\n
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    No, it doesn’t. And if it does, then it’s still insecure by design. When I hear statements like these, I get the urge to publish PoC Linux malware code on GitHub that uses X11 specific features to show just how not fine it is.\n
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    > The Wayland choice of pushing complexity onto individual software projects by making them all reinvent a hundred wheels, and onto users by making them hunt down a hundred pieces of software to build a wobbly desktop stack sucks.\n
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    Substitute Wayland for X11 here. Both Wayland and X11 are protocols. X11 is such a lackluster protocol that all implementations died, except that Xorg still has users.
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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    > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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    Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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    And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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    > The “dead” Xorg works perfectly with everything. That’s the bar.\n
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    No, it doesn’t. And if it does, then it’s still insecure by design. When I hear statements like these, I get the urge to publish PoC Linux malware code on GitHub that uses X11 specific features to show just how not fine it is.\n
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    > The Wayland choice of pushing complexity onto individual software projects by making them all reinvent a hundred wheels, and onto users by making them hunt down a hundred pieces of software to build a wobbly desktop stack sucks.\n
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    Substitute Wayland for X11 here. Both Wayland and X11 are protocols. X11 is such a lackluster protocol that all implementations died, except that Xorg still has users.
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
          \n
          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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        +body: "If you still want to give Wayland a try, take a look at [wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron). Electron still defaults to X11, even though Electron supports Wayland. It’s a bit annoying to set the command line parameters for apps that bundle Electron, but maybe it works for you."
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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        +body: "If you still want to give Wayland a try, take a look at [wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron). Electron still defaults to X11, even though Electron supports Wayland. It’s a bit annoying to set the command line parameters for apps that bundle Electron, but maybe it works for you."
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
          \n
          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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        +body: "If you still want to give Wayland a try, take a look at [wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron). Electron still defaults to X11, even though Electron supports Wayland. It’s a bit annoying to set the command line parameters for apps that bundle Electron, but maybe it works for you."
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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          > The “dead” Xorg works perfectly with everything. That’s the bar.\n
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          No, it doesn’t. And if it does, then it’s still insecure by design. When I hear statements like these, I get the urge to publish PoC Linux malware code on GitHub that uses X11 specific features to show just how not fine it is.\n
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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    > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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    Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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    > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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    No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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    > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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    Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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    > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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    I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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    People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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    > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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    Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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          No, it doesn’t. And if it does, then it’s still insecure by design. When I hear statements like these, I get the urge to publish PoC Linux malware code on GitHub that uses X11 specific features to show just how not fine it is.\n
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        +body: "If you still want to give Wayland a try, take a look at [wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron). Electron still defaults to X11, even though Electron supports Wayland. It’s a bit annoying to set the command line parameters for apps that bundle Electron, but maybe it works for you."
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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    > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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    Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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    > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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    No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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    > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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    Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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    > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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    I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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    People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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    > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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    Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
          \n
          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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          > The “dead” Xorg works perfectly with everything. That’s the bar.\n
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          No, it doesn’t. And if it does, then it’s still insecure by design. When I hear statements like these, I get the urge to publish PoC Linux malware code on GitHub that uses X11 specific features to show just how not fine it is.\n
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        +body: "If you still want to give Wayland a try, take a look at [wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron). Electron still defaults to X11, even though Electron supports Wayland. It’s a bit annoying to set the command line parameters for apps that bundle Electron, but maybe it works for you."
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          Oh yeah?\n
          \n
          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
          \n
          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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          Also, I think it’s *still* a software vendor problem. If your software can’t work with the only desktop protocol with a future, then you must contribute to the protocol to create a way to make it work. If you don’t do that, then shit happens, your software breaks, and you had 10 years to contribute to the protocol to fix it. Your risk management was once again exceptional at avoiding doing the necessary work to eliminate a long known risk.
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    > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
    \n
    Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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    > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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    No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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    > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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    Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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    > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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    I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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    People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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    > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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    Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          +body: "Force people to move to Wayland. Everyone that complains about Wayland breaking their setup knows how to install Xorg anyways. But most Wayland problems are software vendors not giving a shit. Make them give a shit by breaking their shit by default on most setups. 10 years was enough time to make your software work on Wayland. If your software doesn’t work on Wayland by now, then your risk management is shit."
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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        +body: "If you still want to give Wayland a try, take a look at [wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron). Electron still defaults to X11, even though Electron supports Wayland. It’s a bit annoying to set the command line parameters for apps that bundle Electron, but maybe it works for you."
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
          \n
          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
          \n
          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
          \n
          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
          \n
          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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    Oh yeah?\n
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    That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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    Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          +body: "Force people to move to Wayland. Everyone that complains about Wayland breaking their setup knows how to install Xorg anyways. But most Wayland problems are software vendors not giving a shit. Make them give a shit by breaking their shit by default on most setups. 10 years was enough time to make your software work on Wayland. If your software doesn’t work on Wayland by now, then your risk management is shit."
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
          \n
          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
          \n
          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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          No, it doesn’t. And if it does, then it’s still insecure by design. When I hear statements like these, I get the urge to publish PoC Linux malware code on GitHub that uses X11 specific features to show just how not fine it is.\n
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          Substitute Wayland for X11 here. Both Wayland and X11 are protocols. X11 is such a lackluster protocol that all implementations died, except that Xorg still has users.
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        +body: "If you still want to give Wayland a try, take a look at [wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron). Electron still defaults to X11, even though Electron supports Wayland. It’s a bit annoying to set the command line parameters for apps that bundle Electron, but maybe it works for you."
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
          \n
          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
          \n
          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
          \n
          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
          \n
          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
          \n
          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
          \n
          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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    Oh yeah?\n
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    That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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    Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          +body: "Force people to move to Wayland. Everyone that complains about Wayland breaking their setup knows how to install Xorg anyways. But most Wayland problems are software vendors not giving a shit. Make them give a shit by breaking their shit by default on most setups. 10 years was enough time to make your software work on Wayland. If your software doesn’t work on Wayland by now, then your risk management is shit."
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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          No, it doesn’t. And if it does, then it’s still insecure by design. When I hear statements like these, I get the urge to publish PoC Linux malware code on GitHub that uses X11 specific features to show just how not fine it is.\n
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        +body: "If you still want to give Wayland a try, take a look at [wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron). Electron still defaults to X11, even though Electron supports Wayland. It’s a bit annoying to set the command line parameters for apps that bundle Electron, but maybe it works for you."
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
          \n
          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
          \n
          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
          \n
          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
          \n
          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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    Oh yeah?\n
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    That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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    Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
          \n
          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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          > The “dead” Xorg works perfectly with everything. That’s the bar.\n
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          No, it doesn’t. And if it does, then it’s still insecure by design. When I hear statements like these, I get the urge to publish PoC Linux malware code on GitHub that uses X11 specific features to show just how not fine it is.\n
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          > The Wayland choice of pushing complexity onto individual software projects by making them all reinvent a hundred wheels, and onto users by making them hunt down a hundred pieces of software to build a wobbly desktop stack sucks.\n
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          Substitute Wayland for X11 here. Both Wayland and X11 are protocols. X11 is such a lackluster protocol that all implementations died, except that Xorg still has users.
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        +body: "If you still want to give Wayland a try, take a look at [wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron). Electron still defaults to X11, even though Electron supports Wayland. It’s a bit annoying to set the command line parameters for apps that bundle Electron, but maybe it works for you."
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
          \n
          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
          \n
          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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          > The “dead” Xorg works perfectly with everything. That’s the bar.\n
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
          \n
          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
          \n
          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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          > The “dead” Xorg works perfectly with everything. That’s the bar.\n
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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          If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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          Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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          +body: "Force people to move to Wayland. Everyone that complains about Wayland breaking their setup knows how to install Xorg anyways. But most Wayland problems are software vendors not giving a shit. Make them give a shit by breaking their shit by default on most setups. 10 years was enough time to make your software work on Wayland. If your software doesn’t work on Wayland by now, then your risk management is shit."
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
          \n
          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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          No, it doesn’t. And if it does, then it’s still insecure by design. When I hear statements like these, I get the urge to publish PoC Linux malware code on GitHub that uses X11 specific features to show just how not fine it is.\n
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          > The Wayland choice of pushing complexity onto individual software projects by making them all reinvent a hundred wheels, and onto users by making them hunt down a hundred pieces of software to build a wobbly desktop stack sucks.\n
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          Substitute Wayland for X11 here. Both Wayland and X11 are protocols. X11 is such a lackluster protocol that all implementations died, except that Xorg still has users.
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        +body: "If you still want to give Wayland a try, take a look at [wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland#Electron). Electron still defaults to X11, even though Electron supports Wayland. It’s a bit annoying to set the command line parameters for apps that bundle Electron, but maybe it works for you."
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
          \n
          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
          \n
          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
          \n
          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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    If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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    Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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          +body: "Force people to move to Wayland. Everyone that complains about Wayland breaking their setup knows how to install Xorg anyways. But most Wayland problems are software vendors not giving a shit. Make them give a shit by breaking their shit by default on most setups. 10 years was enough time to make your software work on Wayland. If your software doesn’t work on Wayland by now, then your risk management is shit."
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
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          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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    If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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    Do you want software you use to be compatible with Wayland now or later? If your answer is later, then you have to wait for vendors to catch up, even though Wayland got auto type (already exists) and screen magnification by then. This is why I never understood this push against Wayland. People, your only alternative to Wayland is dead and unmaintained. If you push against Wayland as the default option, you only make your transition in the future more painful than it needs to be.\n
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    Also, I think it’s *still* a software vendor problem. If your software can’t work with the only desktop protocol with a future, then you must contribute to the protocol to create a way to make it work. If you don’t do that, then shit happens, your software breaks, and you had 10 years to contribute to the protocol to fix it. Your risk management was once again exceptional at avoiding doing the necessary work to eliminate a long known risk.
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          +body: "Force people to move to Wayland. Everyone that complains about Wayland breaking their setup knows how to install Xorg anyways. But most Wayland problems are software vendors not giving a shit. Make them give a shit by breaking their shit by default on most setups. 10 years was enough time to make your software work on Wayland. If your software doesn’t work on Wayland by now, then your risk management is shit."
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          > Nobody’s pushing “against Wayland”. I don’t give a shit about Wayland or Xorg. What I care about is having a full-featured, easy to use desktop stack readily available.\n
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          Install Xorg yourself. Don’t make it easily accessible to new Linux users. Software vendors will take note and postpone doing any work for as long as possible.\n
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          And you obviously care a lot about Wayland and Xorg.\n
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          > New users will drop any distro whose default desktop doesn’t work perfectly and with all the features they want. Linux already has a high enough bar competing with Windows, creating additional artificial hurdles is dumb in the extreme.\n
          \n
          Both Wayland and X11 are an artificial hurdle to someone, so at least pick the sane choice with a future.\n
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          > Security vs convenience has always been a give and take. There’s a cutoff point that users will not cross if the software becomes too inconvenient to use, even if it means greater security. The Wayland stack is currently on the bad side of that line and needs to step over if it wants to see mass adoption.\n
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          No, Wayland is doing fine.\n
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          > Nobody cares, all they see is the stack, with Wayland leading the point on the bad decisions.\n
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          Oh no, Wayland isn’t X11. It’s almost as if Wayland isn’t supposed to be 1:1 bug compatible with Xorg.\n
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          > You are projecting. If this were any other piece of software, say, a text editor that works and does everything you need, and someone came and told you “you must use this new one, it’s the way forward, but oh it doesn’t have all the features you need from a text editor” you would say “thanks but I’ll wait until it’s ready”. But you see no problem in pushing Wayland on people who can’t use it?\n
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          I don’t know about what text editors you use, but my text editor doesn’t allow malware to log all keystrokes, tamper with windows of other apps, steal clipboard contents without consent, inject keystrokes into other windows, escalate privileges, and install rootkits that persist OS re-installs using the escalated privileges.\n
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          People work on Wayland. Nobody works on Xorg. Alternatives don’t exist.\n
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          > Please understand that nobody will ever successfuly push through incomplete software. Not on Linux. There’s nothing you or anybody can do to convince people that incomplete software is complete and usable when it’s not.\n
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          Do you need a refresher about systemd, pulseaudio, etc.? I’m not in the systemd haters camp, but pulseaudio broke regularly for me. Yet every distro included pulseaudio.
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          Oh yeah?\n
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          That must explain why Xorg always crashes and burns when I don’t use the correct combination of desktop environment, compositor and driver version.\n
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          Let’s not ignore that Xorg doesn’t and never has been working for everyone. At least default to the sane option with a future.
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    If that’s the case, then stick to Xorg for now. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s in your best interest for distros to ship with Wayland out of the box.\n
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      This is my small rant against the ‘features’ that big streaming services provided vis a vis the convenience of pirating the same thing.\n
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      *Also, I am not sure Amazon Prime Video even goes above 720p on Firefox for Linux due to Widevine certification thing; the last time I tried I was running into issues, hence, I stopped bothering with it.*
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      This is my small rant against the ‘features’ that big streaming services provided vis a vis the convenience of pirating the same thing.\n
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      +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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        I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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        - DNS blacklists block hijacked, but legit websites that host malware, contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
        - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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        They’re completely bypassable, they boast a high false positive rate due to how threat actors host malware, and they don’t even block newer malware. Just use Windows Defender. It ain’t perfect, but it’s leagues better than any DNS blacklist.
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      +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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        I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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      +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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        I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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        - DNS blacklists block hijacked, but legit websites that host malware, contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
        - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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        They’re completely bypassable, they boast a high false positive rate due to how threat actors host malware, and they don’t even block newer malware. Just use Windows Defender. It ain’t perfect, but it’s leagues better than any DNS blacklist.
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      +body: "You can’t trust VPN providers to store no logs. It’s impossible to verify. I don’t get why people downvote this comment."
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      +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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          I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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          - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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        +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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  +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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          I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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          - DNS blacklists block only older known malware, similar to existing anti-malware, but less effective.\n
          - DNS blacklists block hijacked, but legit websites that host malware, contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
          - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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          They’re completely bypassable, they boast a high false positive rate due to how threat actors host malware, and they don’t even block newer malware. Just use Windows Defender. It ain’t perfect, but it’s leagues better than any DNS blacklist.
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        +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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          I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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          - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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        +body: "You can’t trust VPN providers to store no logs. It’s impossible to verify. I don’t get why people downvote this comment."
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        +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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        +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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    I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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    - DNS blacklists block only older known malware, similar to existing anti-malware, but less effective.\n
    - DNS blacklists block hijacked, but legit websites that host malware, contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
    - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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    They’re completely bypassable, they boast a high false positive rate due to how threat actors host malware, and they don’t even block newer malware. Just use Windows Defender. It ain’t perfect, but it’s leagues better than any DNS blacklist.
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        +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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    I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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    - DNS blacklists block only older known malware, similar to existing anti-malware, but less effective.\n
    - DNS blacklists block hijacked, but legit websites that host malware, contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
    - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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    They’re completely bypassable, they boast a high false positive rate due to how threat actors host malware, and they don’t even block newer malware. Just use Windows Defender. It ain’t perfect, but it’s leagues better than any DNS blacklist.
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        +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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    I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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    They’re completely bypassable, they boast a high false positive rate due to how threat actors host malware, and they don’t even block newer malware. Just use Windows Defender. It ain’t perfect, but it’s leagues better than any DNS blacklist.
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          I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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        +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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          I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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          - DNS blacklists block hijacked, but legit websites that host malware, contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
          - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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          They’re completely bypassable, they boast a high false positive rate due to how threat actors host malware, and they don’t even block newer malware. Just use Windows Defender. It ain’t perfect, but it’s leagues better than any DNS blacklist.
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        +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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        +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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          I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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          - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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        +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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        +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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          I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
          \n
          - DNS blacklists block only older known malware, similar to existing anti-malware, but less effective.\n
          - DNS blacklists block hijacked, but legit websites that host malware, contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
          - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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          They’re completely bypassable, they boast a high false positive rate due to how threat actors host malware, and they don’t even block newer malware. Just use Windows Defender. It ain’t perfect, but it’s leagues better than any DNS blacklist.
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        +body: "You can’t trust VPN providers to store no logs. It’s impossible to verify. I don’t get why people downvote this comment."
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        +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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        +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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        +body: "You can’t trust VPN providers to store no logs. It’s impossible to verify. I don’t get why people downvote this comment."
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        +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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        +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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          I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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          - DNS blacklists block hijacked, but legit websites that host malware, contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
          - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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          They’re completely bypassable, they boast a high false positive rate due to how threat actors host malware, and they don’t even block newer malware. Just use Windows Defender. It ain’t perfect, but it’s leagues better than any DNS blacklist.
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        +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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          They’re completely bypassable, they boast a high false positive rate due to how threat actors host malware, and they don’t even block newer malware. Just use Windows Defender. It ain’t perfect, but it’s leagues better than any DNS blacklist.
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        +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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        +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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          I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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          - DNS blacklists block hijacked, but legit websites that host malware, contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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        +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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          I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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        +body: "Because Defender already covers what DNS blacklists block and more with less false positives and a proper way to manage exceptions for non-technical people. Older malware is a solved problem for Defender since it’s literally pre-installed everywhere. VPN providers don’t have a way to manage DNS blacklist exceptions, so have fun disabling your VPN to do any research. You also don’t get to choose the blacklists your VPN provider uses. Saying 3. is not a point is like saying malware that’s always able to bypass your anti-malware solution is irrelevant."
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          I can’t call DNS blacklists part of defense in depth. DNS blacklists are a poor man’s version of existing and pre-installed anti-malware software.\n
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          - DNS blacklists block hijacked, but legit websites that host malware, contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
          - DNS blacklists? What is that? I use DoH, get fucked. Contrary to existing anti-malware.\n
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          They’re completely bypassable, they boast a high false positive rate due to how threat actors host malware, and they don’t even block newer malware. Just use Windows Defender. It ain’t perfect, but it’s leagues better than any DNS blacklist.
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  +body: "You conflate VPN providers have an incentive to store no logs with it’s impossible to verify whether VPN providers store logs. It’s like trusting your friend to keep a secret. They promise not to write down what you say, but you can’t be sure. You accept that risk in your threat model, and that’s fine. But newcomers should judge that risk themselves. I feel like “Don’t worry bro, they don’t keep logs.” is an inappropriate response to people that’re about to commit a crime that can land them in jail."
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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