Symfony Profiler

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name

Security enabled

Stateless

Configuration

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

Listeners

Listener	Duration	Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723`-map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …} -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -httpPort: 80 -httpsPort: 443`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …} -sessionKey: "_security_main" -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …} -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …} -registered: false -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …} -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}}	37.98 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582`-twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …} -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}`}	0.06 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …} -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -options: [ "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token" "csrf_token_id" => "logout" "logout_path" => "app_logout" ] -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …} -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …} -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy


"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

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2	"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5	"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log


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      - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
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      - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
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      - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
      - [Electronic Frontier Foundation](https://www.eff.org/)\n
      - [Software Freedom Conservancy](https://sfconservancy.org/)\n
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      - [!libre_software@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_software)\n
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      - [!linux@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/linux)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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      Community icon from opensource.org, but we are not affiliated with them.
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          Don’t kid yourselves, regardless of all your ideals open source only works because it’s free from a monetary perspective.\n
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        > The only thing that drives people is money.\n
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        Hundreds of thousand of unpaid open source contributors would have a word about that. In fact, millions of voluntary workers in other fields, too.\n
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        You’re right that companies contribute to open source as well, and that their motivations are probably self serving. Your conclusion doesn’t hold water, though.
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    This to me is a good question. The lack of something concrete that sounds like “yes, that would definitely work” is something that makes me have reservations about this whole thesis… but that said I think it has some merit.\n
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    Mysql and Qt already have a pretty solid model, where there’s a GPL-enabled alternative that the community can use, or you can pay a fee to use the commercial version. You could scale that up to something where if you want to pay a certain fee, you can use *lots* of currently-GPL software (maybe any that’s been assigned to the FSF or something with the FSF shepherding the whole thing). Then, we can stop the sort of benign neglect of companies that are sloppy with their licensing of uboot or Busybox, and just tell them to start paying the fee if they don’t feel like dotting all their "i"s as far as licensing, and then use the fees to fund development of open source software that’s needed but doesn’t have a lot of motivated developers working on it.\n
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    This is a common misconception. A couple times, it’s even [gone to court](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases). Both Cisco and Best Buy had to pay nontrivial amounts of money, and in the case of Best Buy, it hilariously had to *give to the plaintiffs its inventory of TVs* which contained software copyrighted and GPL-licensed by the plaintiffs.\n
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          This is a common misconception. A couple times, it’s even [gone to court](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases). Both Cisco and Best Buy had to pay nontrivial amounts of money, and in the case of Best Buy, it hilariously had to *give to the plaintiffs its inventory of TVs* which contained software copyrighted and GPL-licensed by the plaintiffs.\n
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      - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
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      - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
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            This is a common misconception. A couple times, it’s even [gone to court](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases). Both Cisco and Best Buy had to pay nontrivial amounts of money, and in the case of Best Buy, it hilariously had to *give to the plaintiffs its inventory of TVs* which contained software copyrighted and GPL-licensed by the plaintiffs.\n
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      Useful Links\n
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      - [Open Source Initiative](https://opensource.org/)\n
      - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
      - [Electronic Frontier Foundation](https://www.eff.org/)\n
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      This is a common misconception. A couple times, it’s even [gone to court](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases). Both Cisco and Best Buy had to pay nontrivial amounts of money, and in the case of Best Buy, it hilariously had to *give to the plaintiffs its inventory of TVs* which contained software copyrighted and GPL-licensed by the plaintiffs.\n
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        This is a common misconception. A couple times, it’s even [gone to court](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases). Both Cisco and Best Buy had to pay nontrivial amounts of money, and in the case of Best Buy, it hilariously had to *give to the plaintiffs its inventory of TVs* which contained software copyrighted and GPL-licensed by the plaintiffs.\n
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    IANAL and I don’t have the actual court papers, but is seems to me they were violating [GPLv2 Section 6](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.html#SEC5).\n
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    Essentially, what this section says is that if you distribute a chunk of software (in this case, the firmware embedded in a smart TV) that in its compiled form contains part or all of a software library covered by this license (in this case, [Busybox](https://www.busybox.net/), which is a bundle of common shell utilities you use every day in a Linux terminal, compacted into one binary to fit onto embedded systems), you have to do one of these four things:\n
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    This lawsuit was brought about because the sellers of the TVs that contained Busybox were not doing any of the above four things, and those sellers ignored or ghosted plaintiff when plaintiff contacted them about it.
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        This is a common misconception. A couple times, it’s even [gone to court](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases). Both Cisco and Best Buy had to pay nontrivial amounts of money, and in the case of Best Buy, it hilariously had to *give to the plaintiffs its inventory of TVs* which contained software copyrighted and GPL-licensed by the plaintiffs.\n
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    IANAL and I don’t have the actual court papers, but is seems to me they were violating [GPLv2 Section 6](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.html#SEC5).\n
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    Essentially, what this section says is that if you distribute a chunk of software (in this case, the firmware embedded in a smart TV) that in its compiled form contains part or all of a software library covered by this license (in this case, [Busybox](https://www.busybox.net/), which is a bundle of common shell utilities you use every day in a Linux terminal, compacted into one binary to fit onto embedded systems), you have to do one of these four things:\n
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    This lawsuit was brought about because the sellers of the TVs that contained Busybox were not doing any of the above four things, and those sellers ignored or ghosted plaintiff when plaintiff contacted them about it.
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        This is a common misconception. A couple times, it’s even [gone to court](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases). Both Cisco and Best Buy had to pay nontrivial amounts of money, and in the case of Best Buy, it hilariously had to *give to the plaintiffs its inventory of TVs* which contained software copyrighted and GPL-licensed by the plaintiffs.\n
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    IANAL and I don’t have the actual court papers, but is seems to me they were violating [GPLv2 Section 6](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.0.html#SEC5).\n
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        This is a common misconception. A couple times, it’s even [gone to court](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases). Both Cisco and Best Buy had to pay nontrivial amounts of money, and in the case of Best Buy, it hilariously had to *give to the plaintiffs its inventory of TVs* which contained software copyrighted and GPL-licensed by the plaintiffs.\n
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    Violating the (spirit of) the license (without violating the letter, because of loopholes in the license) is exactly what Perens is talking about.\n
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    He’s not “complaining he isn’t getting paid.” I think it’s pretty rare that the people working on open source software are actually hurting for money or anything. He’s complaining that the actual practice of how the software is being used, RHEL and Android on phones and etc, isn’t doing well at reflecting the vision of the computing world the GPL was supposed to create. Then, as one possible solution, he’s proposing to kill two birds with one stone with a new license where the companies that are skirting the license right now can have to fund the development of particular types of open source software that need to get done anyway but is lacking right now (because of lack of profit motive).\n
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    Violating the (spirit of) the license (without violating the letter, because of loopholes in the license) is exactly what Perens is talking about.\n
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        This is a common misconception. A couple times, it’s even [gone to court](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases). Both Cisco and Best Buy had to pay nontrivial amounts of money, and in the case of Best Buy, it hilariously had to *give to the plaintiffs its inventory of TVs* which contained software copyrighted and GPL-licensed by the plaintiffs.\n
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    Violating the (spirit of) the license (without violating the letter, because of loopholes in the license) is exactly what Perens is talking about.\n
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      This is a common misconception. A couple times, it’s even [gone to court](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases). Both Cisco and Best Buy had to pay nontrivial amounts of money, and in the case of Best Buy, it hilariously had to *give to the plaintiffs its inventory of TVs* which contained software copyrighted and GPL-licensed by the plaintiffs.\n
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        This is a common misconception. A couple times, it’s even [gone to court](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases). Both Cisco and Best Buy had to pay nontrivial amounts of money, and in the case of Best Buy, it hilariously had to *give to the plaintiffs its inventory of TVs* which contained software copyrighted and GPL-licensed by the plaintiffs.\n
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