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Just to add random info/trivia: it’s interesting to note that this mess between “botanical fruit” and “culinary fruit” is largely language-dependent. In Portuguese for example it doesn’t happen - because botanical fruit is “fruto” (with “o”) and culinary fruit is “fruta” (with “a”).\n
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> In German, the fruits you would put in a fruit salat are called Obst\n
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Sorry for the shitty joke above. Seriously now: after a quick check, apparently the cognate of “Obst” still exists in English, as “ovest”. Nowadays only used dialectally for nuts like acorns being fed to the pigs. It would be fun if it was reintroduced as “culinary fruit”, following the German example, and keeping the Latin borrowing “fruit” for the botanical def.
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Just to add random info/trivia: it’s interesting to note that this mess between “botanical fruit” and “culinary fruit” is largely language-dependent. In Portuguese for example it doesn’t happen - because botanical fruit is “fruto” (with “o”) and culinary fruit is “fruta” (with “a”).\n
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Just to add random info/trivia: it’s interesting to note that this mess between “botanical fruit” and “culinary fruit” is largely language-dependent. In Portuguese for example it doesn’t happen - because botanical fruit is “fruto” (with “o”) and culinary fruit is “fruta” (with “a”).\n
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> In German, the fruits you would put in a fruit salat are called Obst\n
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A salad works, but isn’t it easier to just snort it? :^)\n
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Just to add random info/trivia: it’s interesting to note that this mess between “botanical fruit” and “culinary fruit” is largely language-dependent. In Portuguese for example it doesn’t happen - because botanical fruit is “fruto” (with “o”) and culinary fruit is “fruta” (with “a”).\n
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> In German, the fruits you would put in a fruit salat are called Obst\n
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Just to add random info/trivia: it’s interesting to note that this mess between “botanical fruit” and “culinary fruit” is largely language-dependent. In Portuguese for example it doesn’t happen - because botanical fruit is “fruto” (with “o”) and culinary fruit is “fruta” (with “a”).\n
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So for example, if you tell someone that cucumber is a “fruto”, that is not contentious; you’re just using a somewhat posh word if you aren’t in a botanical context. And if you tell the person that tomato is a “fruta”, you’re just being silly.\n
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Berry has no direct equivalent. If you must specify that the fruit comes from a single ovary, you call it “fruto simples” (lit. simple botanical-fruit), as opposed to “fruto múltiplo” (multiple fruit - e.g. pineapple). Popularly people will call stuff like strawberries and mulberries by multiple names, like “frutinhas” (little fruits) and the likes.
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> In German, the fruits you would put in a fruit salat are called Obst\n
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A salad works, but isn’t it easier to just snort it? :^)\n
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Sorry for the shitty joke above. Seriously now: after a quick check, apparently the cognate of “Obst” still exists in English, as “ovest”. Nowadays only used dialectally for nuts like acorns being fed to the pigs. It would be fun if it was reintroduced as “culinary fruit”, following the German example, and keeping the Latin borrowing “fruit” for the botanical def.
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
\n
I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Edited to remove one sentence**. It stated I would leave all Lemmy instances. Context in comments below.\n
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**Second edit**: I finally got a moderator to respond to this.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
\n
I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
\n
Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
\n
Another issue that I see is ban length. A short ban is great as a warning, or to tell the user to cool their head; while permaban is great when you want to convey “we the mod team do not you here, fuck off”. A two months ban is the worst of both worlds.
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
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I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
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Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
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Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
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For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
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Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
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A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
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Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
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I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Edited to remove one sentence**. It stated I would leave all Lemmy instances. Context in comments below.\n
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**Second edit**: I finally got a moderator to respond to this.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
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I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
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Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
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Another issue that I see is ban length. A short ban is great as a warning, or to tell the user to cool their head; while permaban is great when you want to convey “we the mod team do not you here, fuck off”. A two months ban is the worst of both worlds.
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
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I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
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Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
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Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
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For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
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Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
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A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
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Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
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I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Edited to remove one sentence**. It stated I would leave all Lemmy instances. Context in comments below.\n
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**Second edit**: I finally got a moderator to respond to this.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
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I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
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Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
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Another issue that I see is ban length. A short ban is great as a warning, or to tell the user to cool their head; while permaban is great when you want to convey “we the mod team do not you here, fuck off”. A two months ban is the worst of both worlds.
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
\n
I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
\n
Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
\n
Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
\n
For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
\n
Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
\n
A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
\n
Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
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I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Edited to remove one sentence**. It stated I would leave all Lemmy instances. Context in comments below.\n
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**Second edit**: I finally got a moderator to respond to this.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
\n
Another issue that I see is ban length. A short ban is great as a warning, or to tell the user to cool their head; while permaban is great when you want to convey “we the mod team do not you here, fuck off”. A two months ban is the worst of both worlds.
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
\n
I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
\n
Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
\n
Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
\n
For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
\n
Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
\n
A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
\n
Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
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I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
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Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
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I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Edited to remove one sentence**. It stated I would leave all Lemmy instances. Context in comments below.\n
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**Second edit**: I finally got a moderator to respond to this.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
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Another issue that I see is ban length. A short ban is great as a warning, or to tell the user to cool their head; while permaban is great when you want to convey “we the mod team do not you here, fuck off”. A two months ban is the worst of both worlds.
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
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I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
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Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
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Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
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For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
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Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
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A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
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Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
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I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
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Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
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I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Second edit**: I finally got a moderator to respond to this.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
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Another issue that I see is ban length. A short ban is great as a warning, or to tell the user to cool their head; while permaban is great when you want to convey “we the mod team do not you here, fuck off”. A two months ban is the worst of both worlds.
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
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I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
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Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
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Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
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For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
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Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
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A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
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Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
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I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
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Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
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I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Edited to remove one sentence**. It stated I would leave all Lemmy instances. Context in comments below.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
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I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
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Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
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I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
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Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
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Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
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For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
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Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
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A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
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Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
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Another issue that I see is ban length. A short ban is great as a warning, or to tell the user to cool their head; while permaban is great when you want to convey “we the mod team do not you here, fuck off”. A two months ban is the worst of both worlds.
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
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I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Edited to remove one sentence**. It stated I would leave all Lemmy instances. Context in comments below.\n
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**Second edit**: I finally got a moderator to respond to this.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
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I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
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Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
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I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
\n
Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
\n
Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
\n
For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
\n
Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
\n
A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
\n
Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
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Another issue that I see is ban length. A short ban is great as a warning, or to tell the user to cool their head; while permaban is great when you want to convey “we the mod team do not you here, fuck off”. A two months ban is the worst of both worlds.
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
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I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Edited to remove one sentence**. It stated I would leave all Lemmy instances. Context in comments below.\n
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**Second edit**: I finally got a moderator to respond to this.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
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I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
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Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
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I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
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Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
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Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
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For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
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Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
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A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
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Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
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Another issue that I see is ban length. A short ban is great as a warning, or to tell the user to cool their head; while permaban is great when you want to convey “we the mod team do not you here, fuck off”. A two months ban is the worst of both worlds.
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
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I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Edited to remove one sentence**. It stated I would leave all Lemmy instances. Context in comments below.\n
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**Second edit**: I finally got a moderator to respond to this.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
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I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
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Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
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I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
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Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
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Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
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For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
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Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
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A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
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Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
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I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Edited to remove one sentence**. It stated I would leave all Lemmy instances. Context in comments below.\n
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**Second edit**: I finally got a moderator to respond to this.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
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I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
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Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
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Another issue that I see is ban length. A short ban is great as a warning, or to tell the user to cool their head; while permaban is great when you want to convey “we the mod team do not you here, fuck off”. A two months ban is the worst of both worlds.
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
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I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
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Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
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Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
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For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
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Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
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A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
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Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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I took a 2 month ban from worldnews@lemmy.ml\n
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There was no message to say a ban had been applied. I messaged a mod to say I had trouble posting and asked if there was a ban applied. I got no response.\n
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I eventually spotted there is a [modlog](https://feddit.uk/modlog/44), and low and behold it mentions I was banned for 2 months for antisemitism. I have to say I found this appalling.\n
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When I dug further it turns out that I gave a reply to someone asking why the phrase “from the river to the sea” is considered antisemitic. I replied that is considered as referring to the genocide of the Jews in Israel. I gave a newspaper article link that showed a Labour MP who was removed from the party for using the quote.\n
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The comment has been deleted, there was no information given regarding the ban, there is no point of reference to contest the ban. It is crass beyond belief. I am extremely insulted that someone gets to label me antisemitic for something that is very evidently not, and then hide behind an unbreakable barrier.\n
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**Edited to remove one sentence**. It stated I would leave all Lemmy instances. Context in comments below.\n
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**Second edit**: I finally got a moderator to respond to this.\n
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> from @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml\n
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> You reported antizionism as antisemitism. You did an antisemitism.\n
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> Your source to support your claim also relies on antisemitism and the conflating of Jews and Israel.\n
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I guess this is a community to ignore. Thank you for the responses. I will not respond to anymore here.\n
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My response was:\n
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> Thank you for your response. Your community your rules. [I made a post to try and get my head around this idiocy last night.](https://feddit.uk/post/4637175)\n
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> I will not use your community again.\n
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> EDIT: please update the ban log to reflect this. There is a huge difference between your reasoning and antisemitism.
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Based on the original post of this thread, [this comment](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5901055), the modlog, and an “innocent until proved guilty” approach, I have no reason to distrust the OP.\n
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As such, what I’m going to say might be wrong, and I’m ready to apologise if it is; but *I do not think that it is wrong*.\n
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What the fuck, !worldnews@lemmy.ml mod team? If OP is being accurate, at least one of you is bloody irrational, to the point that the mod is unable to understand the difference between “here’s why this discourse is bad” and support to said bad discourse.\n
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I get that it’s hard to recruit new mods in Lemmy, but remember - a bad mod is worse than no mod. In other words, IMO you guys should seriously consider to review each others’ mod actions and perhaps expurging a mod or two.\n
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OP: your mileage will vary when it comes to Lemmy moderation. Some communities are moderated by sensible people; some, well… you know. Sadly there’s not much that you can do against this, except perhaps avoiding those comms. (inb4 Reddit is not an option in this regard; here, shitty mods are like stepping on shit, but there it’s like drowning in it.)\n
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I also think that mod actions need more transparency. I’m thankful to the developers for the modlog, but I do not think that it is enough. IMO the content being removed should be still visible, *when not illegal*, with a big (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST/COMMENT) in it.\n
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Also, the current modlog should at least clarify *which team* was responsible for a mod action - the comm mods, the comm’s instance admins, or the user’s instance admins. And there should be a way for mods to report users upstream to the instance’s admins.
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Let’s roll with your interpretation that the slogan is *solely* Antizionist. That would make the poster misinformed and incorrect; in this situation, the right thing to do is to *talk with the poster*, informing them, while checking their profile for potential Antisemitic activity. This also works great when the user is not rational (i.e. a bad faith agent) because it gives you better grounds for a ban.\n
\n
Another issue that I see is ban length. A short ban is great as a warning, or to tell the user to cool their head; while permaban is great when you want to convey “we the mod team do not you here, fuck off”. A two months ban is the worst of both worlds.
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Sorry for the wall of text.\n
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I honestly do not think that your judgment was accurate in this situation, and I think that you jumped the gun; the poster sounds genuinely clueless. However I’m fully aware that I don’t have full access to all the info necessary to conclude shite here.\n
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Large bans don’t *decrease* your workload, they *increase* it.\n
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Trolls and bad faith agents might wait for a short ban to expire, but they won’t wait for a large ban - they’ll evade it with an alt account and call it a day, and now you’re playing whack-a-mole with them. With a permaban at least you’re telling them to fuck off, even if they won’t listen.\n
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For more sensible users, the large ban is unfair, and conveys “we still want you here… but we’re too lazy to deal with you thing right now, so shoo”. Other users are not blind, they will notice that the mods overreact to rule infractions and they will avoid reporting things, *except for petty reasons*. Now you’re bound to fine-comb threads manually to enforce the rules because nobody is reporting shite.\n
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Either way, you’re doing *more* work than you would otherwise.\n
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A better approach here would be to contain content prone to trigger rule-breaking comments. Megathreads work like a charm for that; they allow you to fine-comb a single thread instead of the whole community. It also helps to bring up the content diversity of the community.\n
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Another thing. I do agree with you that automatically tying that chant to Antisemitism is itself Antisemitic; however you’re taking for granted that all users are on the same page when it comes to that, and both of us know that the media is spamming them with misinformation that conflates Israel with Jewish people. In those situations it’s better to *issue an official statement*, explaining what will be considered Antisemitism for the sake of rule enforcement. (It helps to inform other users too.)
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