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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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Reminder that while the labour theory of value can be practical to understand certain aspects of society, it is still culturally biased and not “objectively” true.\n
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What creates value can only be answered in a cultural framework.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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EDIT: Thought of another example of your qase where harming nature decreases value. Having to buy carbon certificates for releasing CO2 models the destruction of value by polluting the environment.
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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I agree. My original “reminder” was to point out that *deviations occur*. The mental shortcut that I meant was to only take LTV into account when discussing economics.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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I don’t know if “misused” is the right term, but one example where LTV falls flat is that it doesn’t model the destruction of value due to environmental pollution.
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Reminder that while the labour theory of value can be practical to understand certain aspects of society, it is still culturally biased and not “objectively” true.\n
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What creates value can only be answered in a cultural framework.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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Reminder that while the labour theory of value can be practical to understand certain aspects of society, it is still culturally biased and not “objectively” true.\n
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What creates value can only be answered in a cultural framework.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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EDIT: Thought of another example of your qase where harming nature decreases value. Having to buy carbon certificates for releasing CO2 models the destruction of value by polluting the environment.
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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Reminder that while the labour theory of value can be practical to understand certain aspects of society, it is still culturally biased and not “objectively” true.\n
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What creates value can only be answered in a cultural framework.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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EDIT: Thought of another example of your qase where harming nature decreases value. Having to buy carbon certificates for releasing CO2 models the destruction of value by polluting the environment.
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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I agree. My original “reminder” was to point out that *deviations occur*. The mental shortcut that I meant was to only take LTV into account when discussing economics.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Reminder that while the labour theory of value can be practical to understand certain aspects of society, it is still culturally biased and not “objectively” true.\n
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What creates value can only be answered in a cultural framework.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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EDIT: Thought of another example of your qase where harming nature decreases value. Having to buy carbon certificates for releasing CO2 models the destruction of value by polluting the environment.
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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I agree. My original “reminder” was to point out that *deviations occur*. The mental shortcut that I meant was to only take LTV into account when discussing economics.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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I don’t know if “misused” is the right term, but one example where LTV falls flat is that it doesn’t model the destruction of value due to environmental pollution.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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EDIT: Thought of another example of your qase where harming nature decreases value. Having to buy carbon certificates for releasing CO2 models the destruction of value by polluting the environment.
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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I don’t know if “misused” is the right term, but one example where LTV falls flat is that it doesn’t model the destruction of value due to environmental pollution.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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I agree. My original “reminder” was to point out that *deviations occur*. The mental shortcut that I meant was to only take LTV into account when discussing economics.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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I don’t know if “misused” is the right term, but one example where LTV falls flat is that it doesn’t model the destruction of value due to environmental pollution.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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EDIT: Thought of another example of your qase where harming nature decreases value. Having to buy carbon certificates for releasing CO2 models the destruction of value by polluting the environment.
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Reminder that while the labour theory of value can be practical to understand certain aspects of society, it is still culturally biased and not “objectively” true.\n
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What creates value can only be answered in a cultural framework.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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I agree. My original “reminder” was to point out that *deviations occur*. The mental shortcut that I meant was to only take LTV into account when discussing economics.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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EDIT: Thought of another example of your qase where harming nature decreases value. Having to buy carbon certificates for releasing CO2 models the destruction of value by polluting the environment.
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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I agree. My original “reminder” was to point out that *deviations occur*. The mental shortcut that I meant was to only take LTV into account when discussing economics.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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I don’t know if “misused” is the right term, but one example where LTV falls flat is that it doesn’t model the destruction of value due to environmental pollution.
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Reminder that while the labour theory of value can be practical to understand certain aspects of society, it is still culturally biased and not “objectively” true.\n
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What creates value can only be answered in a cultural framework.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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I agree. My original “reminder” was to point out that *deviations occur*. The mental shortcut that I meant was to only take LTV into account when discussing economics.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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Reminder that while the labour theory of value can be practical to understand certain aspects of society, it is still culturally biased and not “objectively” true.\n
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What creates value can only be answered in a cultural framework.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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EDIT: Thought of another example of your qase where harming nature decreases value. Having to buy carbon certificates for releasing CO2 models the destruction of value by polluting the environment.
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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I don’t know if “misused” is the right term, but one example where LTV falls flat is that it doesn’t model the destruction of value due to environmental pollution.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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EDIT: Thought of another example of your qase where harming nature decreases value. Having to buy carbon certificates for releasing CO2 models the destruction of value by polluting the environment.
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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I agree. My original “reminder” was to point out that *deviations occur*. The mental shortcut that I meant was to only take LTV into account when discussing economics.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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I don’t know if “misused” is the right term, but one example where LTV falls flat is that it doesn’t model the destruction of value due to environmental pollution.
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Reminder that while the labour theory of value can be practical to understand certain aspects of society, it is still culturally biased and not “objectively” true.\n
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What creates value can only be answered in a cultural framework.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> On the contrary, I think applying theoretical models to current real-world economics is the only way to make sense of where theory and reality deviate.\n
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I agree. My original “reminder” was to point out that *deviations occur*. The mental shortcut that I meant was to only take LTV into account when discussing economics.\n
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I don’t know if “misused” is the right term, but one example where LTV falls flat is that it doesn’t model the destruction of value due to environmental pollution.
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> Why the neutral language all of a sudden?\n
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I was trying to be understood a bit better.\n
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> Are you trying to say 'all economic theories and models are not objectively true"?\n
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Not explicitally, but yeah: models aren’t used for “objective truth”. They’re used to *model* (i.e. simplify) reality to make observations and guesses for the future.\n
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> Why would that be worth saying in response to the OP?\n
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I feel like a lot of leftists think that understanding economics starts and ends with “capitalists exploit the labouring class”, while not actually engaging with the subject matter. I guess most can’t even explain LTV properly before getting mad at capitalists.\n
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As I’ve written before: I agree with most conclusions of marxist analysis that I know and I probably don’t even know half of them. But I think that political analysis should use LTV as a tool to understand the world and not the end of socio-economical disgussion (because that would ignore important parts of today’s economy).\n
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> It really just seems like you disagree with the ‘your stolen labor value’ claim in the OP, and are attributing it to the ‘labor theory of value’\n
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I don’t. I wanted to remind people as to make political analysis not too easy by taking the mental shortcut of reducing current capitalism on the problems pointed out by Marx rendition of LTV.\n
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> (as opposed to dismissing it because you disagree with some portion of the theory you’ve neglected to mention)\n
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I don’t disagree. I also don’t disagree with the atomic model of Niels Bohr when it comes to calculating electron potential. When it comes to observing e.g. electron spin, that particular model will probably fall flat. That doesn’t mean I “disagree” with the model, though.\n
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> My hunch is that you don’t feel confident enough in your understanding to make any kind of firm claim and are just dancing around making vague gestures toward ‘labor’ and ‘value’ definitions as a way of avoiding it.\n
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I’m not too confident in my economic knowledge, true. But I *am* quite confident in how models should be used in soft sciences.\n
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Addendum: I’d like to kindly ask you to give me a little bit of benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’ll just disengage due to that accusatory tone I’m getting from you being a bit exhausting.
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Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.\n
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Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.\n
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EDIT: Thought of another example of your qase where harming nature decreases value. Having to buy carbon certificates for releasing CO2 models the destruction of value by polluting the environment.
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> My tone is reflective of my mistrust of your intention\n
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How have I earned that mistrust? Do you think it’s fair to continue that mistrust after my efforts to elaborate my point?\n
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> I am sorry if that is uncomfortable.\n
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Pardon my tone, but: That’s a nonpology. I can do without those.\n
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> I would have found it more interesting if you had been more specific in how you think LTV was being misused.\n
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