GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/m/linux@lemmy.ml/t/22326/How-many-of-you-run-a-Linux-phone-Pine64-Librem/active?p=2

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.51
Profiled on
Token
f7b408

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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authenticators 
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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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12 
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13 
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14 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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    I was going through Pine64’s page again after I found the latest KDE announcement. With that said, I seem to see a lot of issues with firmware on the Pine, whilst the Librem is just plain out of budget for me. Was interested in how many people here run a Linux mobile as a daily driver, and how has your experience been?\n
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    I’m considering purchasing the Pine but I’d like a better screen, more RAM and a better CPU. Don’t know if I should wait for a new model to be released (are they even planning to do that? Is the company active?). I will only really use it to browse the Web, and might even look to desolder a couple of parts that I know I won’t use.\n
    \n
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    Edit 2: overall, I am much saddened about the state of affairs regarding private computing on the go. I desperately hope that Linux on mobile takes off, even though its incubation looks disheartening at the moment. Thank you everyone for your comments.
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
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      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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    i know why i do this: i want to use mostly libre software so i am ready for inconveniences. but not many people are ready to this.\n
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    for many years i used sailfish. it is very polished. i would recommend it to ‘regular people’ instead of android.\n
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    for about one year i used exclusively motorola droid4 as mobile device. it runs maemo-leste: mobile linux distribution with nokia’s hildon desktop (revived maemo fremantle sources) on top of devuan linux.\n
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    i also myself maintain about ten packages in maemo-leshe repository.\n
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    but most of the people won’t use motorola droid 4 and maemo-leste.\n
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    they won’t tolerate small screen and they need their ‘apps’ for ‘banking’ or ‘twitter’ or whatever.\n
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    i do not use banking apps or twitter or reddit or instagram or whatever they use, so i don’t care.\n
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    i used pidgin on that device, even connected to ‘ms teams’ for work via pidgin.\n
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    it is okay.\n
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    even camera doesn’t work on it.\n
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    it is more powerful and it has more recent software in postmarketos. my environment is sxmo. it is hde best phone environment ever created, i think. but how many people will agree with me? even pinephone users prefer phosh or kde plasma or something more fancy.\n
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    in best case, if dino won’t make the device unresponsive.\n
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    yeah and podcasts with gpodder-adaptive.\n
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    i know why i do this: i want to use mostly libre software so i am ready for inconveniences. but not many people are ready to this.\n
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    for many years i used sailfish. it is very polished. i would recommend it to ‘regular people’ instead of android.\n
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    well, it is normal for mobile linux distributions that camera doesn’t work ot most devices. if it works for photos then not for videos.\n
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    well i carry an old small point and shoot with me. i think though it is crappy it makes pdotos better than many phones do.\n
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