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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
1.25 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.04 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1784
  +user: App\Entity\User {#1458 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1749 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#305
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#286 …}
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    +title: "memes"
    +description: """
      Community rules\n
      ---------------\n
      \n
      1. Be civilNo trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour\n
      \n
      2. No politicsThis is non-politics community. For political memes please go to [!politicalmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/politicalmemes)\n
      \n
      3. No recent repostsCheck for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month\n
      \n
      4. No botsNo bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins\n
      \n
      5. No Spam/AdsNo advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.\n
      \n
      \n
      \n
      Sister communities\n
      ------------------\n
      \n
      - [!tenforward@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/tenforward) : Star Trek memes, chat and shitposts\n
      - [!lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost) : Lemmy Shitposts, anything and everything goes.\n
      - [!linuxmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes) : Linux themed memes\n
      - [!comicstrips@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/comicstrips) : for those who love comic stories.
      """
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    +postCount: 0
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    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729581796 {#313
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    +tags: null
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    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#273 …}
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    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#220 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#178 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#240 …}
    +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#157 …}
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    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#100 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#87 …}
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    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.world"
    +apPreferredUsername: "memes"
    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1728743545 {#314
      date: 2024-10-12 16:32:25.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
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      date: 2023-11-04 08:50:55.0 +01:00
    }
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  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    Unlikely why?\n
    \n
    Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
    \n
    I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
    """
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  +isAdult: false
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  +score: 0
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    date: 2024-09-07 12:32:05.0 +02:00
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  +tags: null
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    "@Stamets@lemmy.world"
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  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1750 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1468 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1476 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1489 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1406 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1427 …}
  -id: 311061
  -bodyTs: "'/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn](https://youtu.be/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn)':15 '1100':48 'among':63 'argu':20 'creativ':64 'definit':52 'expens':27 'get':53 'glove':37 'intric':25 'isn':56 'knit':36 'like':42 'machin':50 'peopl':19 'pretti':24 'purpos':34 'seen':18 'sew':49 'status':61 'submit':44 'symbol':62 'thing':28 'type':65 'unlik':1 'use':10,30,54 'video':6 'weird':60 'wife':46 'would':41 'youtu.be':14 'youtu.be/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn](https://youtu.be/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn)':13"
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  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
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  +editedAt: null
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    date: 2024-01-15 17:21:25.0 +01:00
  }
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1784
  +user: App\Entity\User {#1458 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1749 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#305
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#286 …}
    +name: "memes@lemmy.world"
    +title: "memes"
    +description: """
      Community rules\n
      ---------------\n
      \n
      1. Be civilNo trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour\n
      \n
      2. No politicsThis is non-politics community. For political memes please go to [!politicalmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/politicalmemes)\n
      \n
      3. No recent repostsCheck for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month\n
      \n
      4. No botsNo bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins\n
      \n
      5. No Spam/AdsNo advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.\n
      \n
      \n
      \n
      Sister communities\n
      ------------------\n
      \n
      - [!tenforward@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/tenforward) : Star Trek memes, chat and shitposts\n
      - [!lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost) : Lemmy Shitposts, anything and everything goes.\n
      - [!linuxmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes) : Linux themed memes\n
      - [!comicstrips@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/comicstrips) : for those who love comic stories.
      """
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    +postCount: 0
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    +isAdult: false
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    +lastActive: DateTime @1729581796 {#313
      date: 2024-10-22 09:23:16.0 +02:00
    }
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    +tags: null
    +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#277 …}
    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#273 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#262 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#220 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#178 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#240 …}
    +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#157 …}
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    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#121 …}
    +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#111 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#100 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#87 …}
    -id: 78
    +apId: "memes@lemmy.world"
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    +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/memes"
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    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.world"
    +apPreferredUsername: "memes"
    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1728743545 {#314
      date: 2024-10-12 16:32:25.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699084255 {#308
      date: 2023-11-04 08:50:55.0 +01:00
    }
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  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    Unlikely why?\n
    \n
    Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
    \n
    I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
    """
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    date: 2024-09-07 12:32:05.0 +02:00
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  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
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  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1750 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1468 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1476 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1489 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1406 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1427 …}
  -id: 311061
  -bodyTs: "'/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn](https://youtu.be/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn)':15 '1100':48 'among':63 'argu':20 'creativ':64 'definit':52 'expens':27 'get':53 'glove':37 'intric':25 'isn':56 'knit':36 'like':42 'machin':50 'peopl':19 'pretti':24 'purpos':34 'seen':18 'sew':49 'status':61 'submit':44 'symbol':62 'thing':28 'type':65 'unlik':1 'use':10,30,54 'video':6 'weird':60 'wife':46 'would':41 'youtu.be':14 'youtu.be/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn](https://youtu.be/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn)':13"
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1784
  +user: App\Entity\User {#1458 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1749 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#305
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#286 …}
    +name: "memes@lemmy.world"
    +title: "memes"
    +description: """
      Community rules\n
      ---------------\n
      \n
      1. Be civilNo trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour\n
      \n
      2. No politicsThis is non-politics community. For political memes please go to [!politicalmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/politicalmemes)\n
      \n
      3. No recent repostsCheck for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month\n
      \n
      4. No botsNo bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins\n
      \n
      5. No Spam/AdsNo advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.\n
      \n
      \n
      \n
      Sister communities\n
      ------------------\n
      \n
      - [!tenforward@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/tenforward) : Star Trek memes, chat and shitposts\n
      - [!lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost) : Lemmy Shitposts, anything and everything goes.\n
      - [!linuxmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes) : Linux themed memes\n
      - [!comicstrips@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/comicstrips) : for those who love comic stories.
      """
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    +apDiscoverable: true
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    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1728743545 {#314
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    }
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      date: 2023-11-04 08:50:55.0 +01:00
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  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    Unlikely why?\n
    \n
    Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
    \n
    I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
    """
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  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1476 …}
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  -id: 311061
  -bodyTs: "'/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn](https://youtu.be/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn)':15 '1100':48 'among':63 'argu':20 'creativ':64 'definit':52 'expens':27 'get':53 'glove':37 'intric':25 'isn':56 'knit':36 'like':42 'machin':50 'peopl':19 'pretti':24 'purpos':34 'seen':18 'sew':49 'status':61 'submit':44 'symbol':62 'thing':28 'type':65 'unlik':1 'use':10,30,54 'video':6 'weird':60 'wife':46 'would':41 'youtu.be':14 'youtu.be/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn](https://youtu.be/76avv601yj0?si=kvdh4zlibcmyldpn)':13"
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      Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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      Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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              Unlikely why?\n
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              Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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        Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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        It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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    Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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    What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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    Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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              Unlikely why?\n
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              Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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              I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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          +body: "Knitting isn’t attested until almost a millennium after this artifact was created. Nålbinding was practiced during this era in a variety of areas and can look very similar, but is mechanically very diffferent."
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        +body: "Yeah, this object isn’t attested to either, so…"
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        Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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        It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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    +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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    Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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    What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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    Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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    Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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              Unlikely why?\n
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              Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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              I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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        Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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        It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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    +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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    Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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    What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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    Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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                Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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          Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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          It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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      Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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      What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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      Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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      Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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                Unlikely why?\n
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                Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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                I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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          Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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          It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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      Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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      What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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      Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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      Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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                Unlikely why?\n
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                Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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          Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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      Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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      What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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      Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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            Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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            It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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        +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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        Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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        What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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        Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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        Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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    Here’s the thing. You said “nålbinding is knitting.”\n
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    Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.\n
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    As someone who is a scientist who studies knitting, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls nålbinding knitting. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.\n
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    If you’re saying “knitting family” you’re referring to the hobby of weaving, which includes things from crochet to macramé to plaiting.\n
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    So your reasoning for calling nålbinding knitting is because random people “call fabric crafting knitting?” Let’s get felting and tatting in there, then, too.\n
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    Also, calling something knitting or weaving? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. Nålbinding is nålbinding and a member of the knitting family. But that’s not what you said. You said a nålbinding is knitting, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the knitting family knitting, which means you’d call macramé, plaiting, and other weaving methods knitting, too. Which you said you don’t.\n
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    It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, [you know?](https://old.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/2byyca/reddit_helps_me_focus_on_the_important_things/cjb37ee/)
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                  Unlikely why?\n
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                  Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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            Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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            It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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        +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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        Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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        What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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        Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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        Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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    Here’s the thing. You said “nålbinding is knitting.”\n
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    Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.\n
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    As someone who is a scientist who studies knitting, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls nålbinding knitting. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.\n
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    If you’re saying “knitting family” you’re referring to the hobby of weaving, which includes things from crochet to macramé to plaiting.\n
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    So your reasoning for calling nålbinding knitting is because random people “call fabric crafting knitting?” Let’s get felting and tatting in there, then, too.\n
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    Also, calling something knitting or weaving? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. Nålbinding is nålbinding and a member of the knitting family. But that’s not what you said. You said a nålbinding is knitting, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the knitting family knitting, which means you’d call macramé, plaiting, and other weaving methods knitting, too. Which you said you don’t.\n
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    It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, [you know?](https://old.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/2byyca/reddit_helps_me_focus_on_the_important_things/cjb37ee/)
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                  Unlikely why?\n
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                  Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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                  I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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            +body: "Yeah, this object isn’t attested to either, so…"
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            Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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            It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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        +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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        Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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        What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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        Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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        Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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    Here’s the thing. You said “nålbinding is knitting.”\n
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    Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.\n
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    As someone who is a scientist who studies knitting, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls nålbinding knitting. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.\n
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    If you’re saying “knitting family” you’re referring to the hobby of weaving, which includes things from crochet to macramé to plaiting.\n
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    So your reasoning for calling nålbinding knitting is because random people “call fabric crafting knitting?” Let’s get felting and tatting in there, then, too.\n
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    Also, calling something knitting or weaving? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. Nålbinding is nålbinding and a member of the knitting family. But that’s not what you said. You said a nålbinding is knitting, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the knitting family knitting, which means you’d call macramé, plaiting, and other weaving methods knitting, too. Which you said you don’t.\n
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    It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, [you know?](https://old.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/2byyca/reddit_helps_me_focus_on_the_important_things/cjb37ee/)
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      Community rules\n
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      2. No politicsThis is non-politics community. For political memes please go to [!politicalmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/politicalmemes)\n
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      - [!lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost) : Lemmy Shitposts, anything and everything goes.\n
      - [!linuxmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes) : Linux themed memes\n
      - [!comicstrips@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/comicstrips) : for those who love comic stories.
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                  Unlikely why?\n
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                  Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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                  I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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              +body: "Knitting isn’t attested until almost a millennium after this artifact was created. Nålbinding was practiced during this era in a variety of areas and can look very similar, but is mechanically very diffferent."
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            +body: "Yeah, this object isn’t attested to either, so…"
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            Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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            It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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        +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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        Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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        What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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        Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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        Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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    +body: "Yeah I watched the video. it’s knitting dude."
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    You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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    Nålbinding is a very different technique because it is early - working with small scraps of fiber because you’re just grabbing what’s available, and it’s a technique that closes itself (unlike knitting or crochet, you don’t have to “weave in” the ends). Nålbinding also involves you working “off thumb.”\n
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    It’s very fun to imagine that Romans had a nifty way of mass producing gloves. But it’s a massive stretch. Clothing was made at home, by the women of the home. Poor women would not have been able to afford a fancy doohickey. Wealthy women didn’t make their own clothes. Prestige clothing (eg togas) was primarily woven.\n
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    I’ve seen lots of cool people make art with things that weren’t intended for the purpose of making art, and that’s great! Folks can write messages in the sky with airplanes - that doesn’t mean that airplanes were invented for skywriting.
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                  Unlikely why?\n
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            Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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            It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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        +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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        Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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        What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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        Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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        Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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    You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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    Nålbinding is a very different technique because it is early - working with small scraps of fiber because you’re just grabbing what’s available, and it’s a technique that closes itself (unlike knitting or crochet, you don’t have to “weave in” the ends). Nålbinding also involves you working “off thumb.”\n
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    It’s very fun to imagine that Romans had a nifty way of mass producing gloves. But it’s a massive stretch. Clothing was made at home, by the women of the home. Poor women would not have been able to afford a fancy doohickey. Wealthy women didn’t make their own clothes. Prestige clothing (eg togas) was primarily woven.\n
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    I’ve seen lots of cool people make art with things that weren’t intended for the purpose of making art, and that’s great! Folks can write messages in the sky with airplanes - that doesn’t mean that airplanes were invented for skywriting.
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                  Unlikely why?\n
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                  Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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                  I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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            Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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            It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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        +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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        Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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        What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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        Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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        Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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    You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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                    Unlikely why?\n
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                    Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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              Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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              It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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          Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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          What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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          Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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      You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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      Nålbinding is a very different technique because it is early - working with small scraps of fiber because you’re just grabbing what’s available, and it’s a technique that closes itself (unlike knitting or crochet, you don’t have to “weave in” the ends). Nålbinding also involves you working “off thumb.”\n
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      It’s very fun to imagine that Romans had a nifty way of mass producing gloves. But it’s a massive stretch. Clothing was made at home, by the women of the home. Poor women would not have been able to afford a fancy doohickey. Wealthy women didn’t make their own clothes. Prestige clothing (eg togas) was primarily woven.\n
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              Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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              It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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          +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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          Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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          What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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          Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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          Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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      You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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      Nålbinding is a very different technique because it is early - working with small scraps of fiber because you’re just grabbing what’s available, and it’s a technique that closes itself (unlike knitting or crochet, you don’t have to “weave in” the ends). Nålbinding also involves you working “off thumb.”\n
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      It’s very fun to imagine that Romans had a nifty way of mass producing gloves. But it’s a massive stretch. Clothing was made at home, by the women of the home. Poor women would not have been able to afford a fancy doohickey. Wealthy women didn’t make their own clothes. Prestige clothing (eg togas) was primarily woven.\n
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      I’ve seen lots of cool people make art with things that weren’t intended for the purpose of making art, and that’s great! Folks can write messages in the sky with airplanes - that doesn’t mean that airplanes were invented for skywriting.
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                    Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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              Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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              It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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          Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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          What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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          Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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          Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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      You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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      Nålbinding is a very different technique because it is early - working with small scraps of fiber because you’re just grabbing what’s available, and it’s a technique that closes itself (unlike knitting or crochet, you don’t have to “weave in” the ends). Nålbinding also involves you working “off thumb.”\n
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      It’s very fun to imagine that Romans had a nifty way of mass producing gloves. But it’s a massive stretch. Clothing was made at home, by the women of the home. Poor women would not have been able to afford a fancy doohickey. Wealthy women didn’t make their own clothes. Prestige clothing (eg togas) was primarily woven.\n
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      I’ve seen lots of cool people make art with things that weren’t intended for the purpose of making art, and that’s great! Folks can write messages in the sky with airplanes - that doesn’t mean that airplanes were invented for skywriting.
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                      Unlikely why?\n
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                      Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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                      I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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                  +body: "Knitting isn’t attested until almost a millennium after this artifact was created. Nålbinding was practiced during this era in a variety of areas and can look very similar, but is mechanically very diffferent."
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                +body: "Yeah, this object isn’t attested to either, so…"
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                Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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                It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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            +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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            Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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            What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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            Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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            Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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        +body: "Yeah I watched the video. it’s knitting dude."
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        You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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        Nålbinding is a very different technique because it is early - working with small scraps of fiber because you’re just grabbing what’s available, and it’s a technique that closes itself (unlike knitting or crochet, you don’t have to “weave in” the ends). Nålbinding also involves you working “off thumb.”\n
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        It’s very fun to imagine that Romans had a nifty way of mass producing gloves. But it’s a massive stretch. Clothing was made at home, by the women of the home. Poor women would not have been able to afford a fancy doohickey. Wealthy women didn’t make their own clothes. Prestige clothing (eg togas) was primarily woven.\n
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        I’ve seen lots of cool people make art with things that weren’t intended for the purpose of making art, and that’s great! Folks can write messages in the sky with airplanes - that doesn’t mean that airplanes were invented for skywriting.
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    It might be helpful to try both techniques yourself.\n
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    You can buy a spool at Walmart for pretty cheap, they’re often available at thrift stores for less. You’ll want to look up an “i-cord” tutorial. Any old yarn will do honestly, the acrylic super savers will work.\n
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    Nålbinding will require that you use wool. The joining process involves felting the ends together (an *extra* knitter might do this, but it’s not necessary - it’s okay to tie them together because you’re weaving in ends afterwards). Felting is using water and patience to shape wool. For practice, you can use a cheap plastic tapestry needle honestly - save money here because the wool is going to run you a bit more.\n
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    I find nålbinding uncomfortable and slow, personally.
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                      Unlikely why?\n
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                      Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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                      I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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                Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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                It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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            Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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            What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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            Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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            Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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        You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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        It’s very fun to imagine that Romans had a nifty way of mass producing gloves. But it’s a massive stretch. Clothing was made at home, by the women of the home. Poor women would not have been able to afford a fancy doohickey. Wealthy women didn’t make their own clothes. Prestige clothing (eg togas) was primarily woven.\n
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        I’ve seen lots of cool people make art with things that weren’t intended for the purpose of making art, and that’s great! Folks can write messages in the sky with airplanes - that doesn’t mean that airplanes were invented for skywriting.
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    It might be helpful to try both techniques yourself.\n
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    You can buy a spool at Walmart for pretty cheap, they’re often available at thrift stores for less. You’ll want to look up an “i-cord” tutorial. Any old yarn will do honestly, the acrylic super savers will work.\n
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    Nålbinding will require that you use wool. The joining process involves felting the ends together (an *extra* knitter might do this, but it’s not necessary - it’s okay to tie them together because you’re weaving in ends afterwards). Felting is using water and patience to shape wool. For practice, you can use a cheap plastic tapestry needle honestly - save money here because the wool is going to run you a bit more.\n
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                      Unlikely why?\n
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                      Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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                Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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                It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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            +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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            Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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            What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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            Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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            Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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        You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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        Nålbinding is a very different technique because it is early - working with small scraps of fiber because you’re just grabbing what’s available, and it’s a technique that closes itself (unlike knitting or crochet, you don’t have to “weave in” the ends). Nålbinding also involves you working “off thumb.”\n
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        It’s very fun to imagine that Romans had a nifty way of mass producing gloves. But it’s a massive stretch. Clothing was made at home, by the women of the home. Poor women would not have been able to afford a fancy doohickey. Wealthy women didn’t make their own clothes. Prestige clothing (eg togas) was primarily woven.\n
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        I’ve seen lots of cool people make art with things that weren’t intended for the purpose of making art, and that’s great! Folks can write messages in the sky with airplanes - that doesn’t mean that airplanes were invented for skywriting.
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    It might be helpful to try both techniques yourself.\n
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    You can buy a spool at Walmart for pretty cheap, they’re often available at thrift stores for less. You’ll want to look up an “i-cord” tutorial. Any old yarn will do honestly, the acrylic super savers will work.\n
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    Nålbinding will require that you use wool. The joining process involves felting the ends together (an *extra* knitter might do this, but it’s not necessary - it’s okay to tie them together because you’re weaving in ends afterwards). Felting is using water and patience to shape wool. For practice, you can use a cheap plastic tapestry needle honestly - save money here because the wool is going to run you a bit more.\n
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    I find nålbinding uncomfortable and slow, personally.
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                      Unlikely why?\n
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                      Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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                      I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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                  +body: "Knitting isn’t attested until almost a millennium after this artifact was created. Nålbinding was practiced during this era in a variety of areas and can look very similar, but is mechanically very diffferent."
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                +body: "Yeah, this object isn’t attested to either, so…"
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                Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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                It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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            +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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            Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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            What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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            Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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            Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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        +body: "Yeah I watched the video. it’s knitting dude."
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        You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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        Nålbinding is a very different technique because it is early - working with small scraps of fiber because you’re just grabbing what’s available, and it’s a technique that closes itself (unlike knitting or crochet, you don’t have to “weave in” the ends). Nålbinding also involves you working “off thumb.”\n
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        It’s very fun to imagine that Romans had a nifty way of mass producing gloves. But it’s a massive stretch. Clothing was made at home, by the women of the home. Poor women would not have been able to afford a fancy doohickey. Wealthy women didn’t make their own clothes. Prestige clothing (eg togas) was primarily woven.\n
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        I’ve seen lots of cool people make art with things that weren’t intended for the purpose of making art, and that’s great! Folks can write messages in the sky with airplanes - that doesn’t mean that airplanes were invented for skywriting.
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    Do you also think crochet and knitting are the same? This is a totally different fiber art. I both knit and crochet and would not be able to hop right into this; totally different movements and methods and ways of weaving the yarn. Just because the products are similar does not make it the same.\n
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                      Unlikely why?\n
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                      Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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                      I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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                Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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                It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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            +body: "Man, i looked up nalbinding. It’s knitting, 7000 years old, romans made their socks and mittens that way, it’s not crochet, of course, but it’s knitting. Apparently it was only named nalbinding in the 70s, it was just knit before."
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            Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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            What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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            Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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            Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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        You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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        Nålbinding is a very different technique because it is early - working with small scraps of fiber because you’re just grabbing what’s available, and it’s a technique that closes itself (unlike knitting or crochet, you don’t have to “weave in” the ends). Nålbinding also involves you working “off thumb.”\n
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        It’s very fun to imagine that Romans had a nifty way of mass producing gloves. But it’s a massive stretch. Clothing was made at home, by the women of the home. Poor women would not have been able to afford a fancy doohickey. Wealthy women didn’t make their own clothes. Prestige clothing (eg togas) was primarily woven.\n
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        I’ve seen lots of cool people make art with things that weren’t intended for the purpose of making art, and that’s great! Folks can write messages in the sky with airplanes - that doesn’t mean that airplanes were invented for skywriting.
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    Do you also think crochet and knitting are the same? This is a totally different fiber art. I both knit and crochet and would not be able to hop right into this; totally different movements and methods and ways of weaving the yarn. Just because the products are similar does not make it the same.\n
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    I hope you’re trolling because you’re getting me good lmao
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                      Unlikely why?\n
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                      Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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                      I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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                Less ambiguously worded: *knitting did not exist in Roman late antiquity.* Romans produced their fabric by weaving. It’s very easy to tell the difference when looking at a fabric if someone points it out to you. Knitting was an early medieval probably Middle Eastern/North African invention. It took a while to spread.\n
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                It’s very awesome that someone was able to use a model of one of these to knit a glove, but one time I got wasted and knit with pencils. I really love imagining little Roman schoolchildren in woolen mittens and beanies, but it’s just not realistic.
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            Nålbinding and knitting are not the same. They look very similar in the finished product, and can be hard to tell apart by non-experts, but are made by entirely separate processes. Because of the difficulty in identification - because honestly, many archeologists and historians before the 1970s were extremely ignorant on the history of “day to day” folks - many items were misidentified.\n
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            What the granny did was spool knitting - see [youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe](https://youtu.be/cWNhi1iEIvk?si=g38FJCuCr3l78gPe)\n
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            Nålbinding looks like - [youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY](https://youtu.be/ouOHK-D0TGM?si=uXTwlbXpl6IyOdvY)\n
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            Key differences: Nålbinding uses smaller, shorter strands tied together (early spinning methods = shorter bits to work with). Nålbinding works with *one* finger holding the stitches, the earliest knitting (which tbh, didn’t really reach Europe until the *late* medieval period) was worked in the round on *multiple* double pointed needles. What the earliest knitting looked like wouldn’t have looked what granny was doing, or either of the two videos linked above. (I tried to find a video but FUCK dpens, circ gang 4lyf)
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        You’re wrong, but here’s some cool socks that someone might have worn while making dodecahedrons: [youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3](https://youtu.be/SCIV27RVA90?si=inVWHIQz5bDV9LV3)\n
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        Nålbinding is a very different technique because it is early - working with small scraps of fiber because you’re just grabbing what’s available, and it’s a technique that closes itself (unlike knitting or crochet, you don’t have to “weave in” the ends). Nålbinding also involves you working “off thumb.”\n
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        It’s very fun to imagine that Romans had a nifty way of mass producing gloves. But it’s a massive stretch. Clothing was made at home, by the women of the home. Poor women would not have been able to afford a fancy doohickey. Wealthy women didn’t make their own clothes. Prestige clothing (eg togas) was primarily woven.\n
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        I’ve seen lots of cool people make art with things that weren’t intended for the purpose of making art, and that’s great! Folks can write messages in the sky with airplanes - that doesn’t mean that airplanes were invented for skywriting.
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    Do you also think crochet and knitting are the same? This is a totally different fiber art. I both knit and crochet and would not be able to hop right into this; totally different movements and methods and ways of weaving the yarn. Just because the products are similar does not make it the same.\n
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    I hope you’re trolling because you’re getting me good lmao
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      Unlikely why?\n
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      Here’s a video of it being used for that: [youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN](https://youtu.be/76AvV601yJ0?si=kvdh4ZLiBCmyldPN)\n
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      I have seen people argue that "they are pretty intricate and expensive things to use only for the purposes of knitting gloves. ". To them, I would like to submit my wife’s $1100 sewing machine that definitely gets used, and isn’t just some weird status symbol among creative types.
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    Just because you *could* use it for knitting it doesn’t mean it was its purpose.  \n
    There’s not a lot of detail, but you can check on the Wiki why it’s ultimately an unlikely explanation: [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron#Purpose](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron#Purpose)
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    Because limited edition cups of the brand I used to buy at the Flying J truck stop for $12.99 now costs $150, and the resale value is $200. People are buying a half dozen or more to go with whatever they’re wearing. They’re Stanley mugs for heaven’s sake.\n
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