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LavaPlanet, in Be honest: if you had the power to stop time, your morals would go out the window.

This one time in high school…

(I didn’t want to declare my gender, because ‘the site that shall not be named’ is an absolute dick to women, but I’m feeling like that might not be as much of a thing, here)

… I came across a group of 5 or 6 huge 6ft footballers, in a circle, kicking this small indigenous kid around and taunting him, I’m half their size, a girl ,probably 12, and just about the shyest quietest kid in school, but when I saw that, the pure rage that welled up in me, has no equivalent on earth, my muscles all lock up and knot and I (somehow) came out with a deep booming growl of a voice, that made all a these blokes just freeze dead, I boom at them, “what the fuck do you all think you’re doing!!” , and in a slow angry tone I add “do you all feel like big men, a heap of you, beating up on one guy” . And I stood there, all rage, staring them down. The indigenous boy noticed they were all frozen and scattered along the ground and grabbed his bag and pelted.

I realised this needed to end, and he had escaped, so I tried to throw out some finalising statement of ‘do you feel proud’ or’this better never happen again’ or something, I don’t really know, because by this stage, I’m gripped with ultimate terror of what I’ve done. These guys are twice my size, and happily beat up kids smaller than them. If they snap out of this and realise, I’m easy prey, I’m done for. I fake a hold on my rage, turn and (painfully) slowly walk away and proceed to lock myself in the girls toilet and cry for the rest of the day, expecting a mob of footballers to be out there, after snapping out of their trance, ready to dust me. But I made it home, unscathed. Those footballers gave me death stares, the rest of high school, but none of them ever spoke to me or gave me trouble, really. A taunt here and there, but always when surrounded by classmates. The indigenous boy came and found me and thanked me, later, I asked him if that had happened since and he said, yeah. But he still really appreciated me sticking up for him, that day.

I didn’t really think about what I did that day, those words to those footballers just fell out of my head, they rose up from the depths of my soul, I didn’t really feel like I controlled it.

But also, I know I’d do immoral shit, if I got superpowers, I’d go around and kill all the billionaires and dictators. I’d probably give them an ultimatum, give away your money or die.

I feel like the boys just represents a more realistic subsection of humans, there would be a percentage that are narcissists and have powers, and a percentage that are highly moralistic, like in gen v. And I could see capitalism being the real bad guy, in real life, just like in the boys.

spikespaz,

But I want to be a billionaire one day. I want to start a company and grow it, as ethically as I can but still survive in capitalism. Would you still kill me? Will people hate me if I fulfill my dream? I want to raise incredible capital, invest it in people, their bright ideas, and trade schools for autistic kids, and retire to a private island. Am I still in your hit list just because I’m a billionaire?

LavaPlanet,

If you become a billionaire. When I get my superpowers, I’ll be coming for you. Maybe I’ll do a “Christmas carol / Scrouge” style montage and show you how many dead tiny Tim’s are in your trails.

FelixMortane,

You are probably safe for multiple reasons. Not the least of which is, unless you are already on the winning side of the rigged game, you will not become a billionaire. Millionaire maybe.

LotrOrc,

How will you make your billion dollars ethically, without exploiting a fuck ton of people and a fuck ton of land?

spikespaz,

Hopefully by selling multiple products with good value at a favorable market price, and then reinvesting to repeat with another idea. I’m not trying to be an oil company, though I would invest.

DudeDudenson, (edited )

I wouldn’t bother with trying to argue these points on Lemmy. It’s like being leftist who thinks anyone who makes more money than them is the devil is the mandated religion on this site.

And I live in Argentina I know what “redistributed” wealth ends up looking like so I do understand where you’re coming from. But people on Lemmy have no interest in even considering any other point of view in this regard

LavaPlanet,

But do you consider the other side of your views? I find it hard to believe someone actually has a true and complete understanding of capitaliam and then still goes on to defend it. Unless they have skin in the game. You don’t sound like you listen, while bagging out other people for not listening. If you do have a deep understanding, I would genuinely like to know how, specifically, you went from that understanding to pretending you don’t see how harmful it is. Please correct me if I haven’t taken your meaning correctly.

DudeDudenson, (edited )

Please list me 500 sources for your world views so I might discredit them one by one!

I don’t defend capitalism further than the fact that it’s the best system we have at the moment as something people will accept, considering the only alternatives are anarchism or socialism.

What I do hate is the ideas that turned my country from a first world country to a third world country in less than 100 years. But trying to explain what it’s like to someone that lives in such privilege as the US is like trying to explain a color to a blind person. And my comment wasn’t aimed at the validity of leftist ideals or the value of capitalism but rather at how polarized Lemmy has been in my short experience on the site.

I’ve blocked over 30 subs at this point trying to get politics out of my feeds. And for some reason all of those were leftist subs, like as if opposing opinions weren’t allowed on lemmy

Edit: And a final comment, I’ve come to the conclusion that the concept of left and right that each person has depends on their country of origin. But everyone seems to think that when someone says right wing in another country they’re referring to the same kind of right wing they have at their own country

spikespaz,

Like in 1984 by Orwell, where every “other party” is the same as the other three from the tristate.

guacupado,

Yes. Your taxes could achieve all that anyway. You just want dragon-level wealth and would throw peanuts of charity to maintain a good image.

spikespaz,

Taxes? Taxes can immediately and directly affect the specific changes that I want to see in the world? Tell me, what are you smoking? Get your socialist bitch ass out of here.

Also, regardless of my morality, fuck yes I want dragon level wealth. I want to never ever think about money again, and give my offspring and living kin the same privilege.

FabledAepitaph, in Spotify Wrapped 2023 is out, what's your top artist and top song for the year?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b93b4dc3-4d66-40d3-80a2-822d2c757e02.jpeg

I tried to find someone with a higher play time lol

willnever_fadeaway,
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Not easy to do. Breaking 100k minutes would be at the upper edge of my Spotify listening limit.

FabledAepitaph,

Reasonable! I usually need music to focus on work. I also have music going any time I’m driving, for sure. And sometimes I even have it going when I sleep–although, I don’t think I did a lot of night music in 2023. Definitely more 2022. I think my number was in the 180s last year, maybe because I’ve been watching more Youtube videos this year. I should cut Youtube out and go back to music–probably a healthier use of my time lol.

ascallion, (edited )

Just topped ya ;). I listen pretty much the whole day.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/16809806-1c42-40be-8283-fc202e3efece.png

FabledAepitaph,

Killing it, lol. The Aviators must be furries haha

Nemo, in Be honest: if you had the power to stop time, your morals would go out the window.

Not at all. It’s easy to get away with things even without superpowers. If I don’t do something, it’s because I don’t want to be a person that does that thing.

foyrkopp,

This.

There are already people who are doing selfish/immoral/illegal things because they can get away with it.

And there are people who don’t.

Giving either of those superpowers would (mostly) only increase the magnitude of things they would or would not do.

creditCrazy, (edited ) in Be honest: if you had the power to stop time, your morals would go out the window.
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Yaknow I just thought of one technicality that would make time stopping a very miserable super power. What if you are also paused. Or what is the physics of paused time. Like do you need time to make stuff move. If that’s also the case wouldn’t your clothes stop you from moving in paused time. That’s not even mentioning air is also mass. That needs to move to let you move about. Edit: also if mass doesn’t require time to move. What about energy. Would everything feel like it has a shit ton more momentum than normal. How tiring would walking be.

Lepsea, in Be honest: if you had the power to stop time, your morals would go out the window.

Yes

samus12345, (edited ) in Be honest: if you had the power to stop time, your morals would go out the window.
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This is an awful lot like the idea that the only thing keeping people from raping and murdering is belief in god. It says a lot more about the person claiming it than anyone else.

balderdash9,

Wups, I meant to reply to a comment about the Mongol/Huns on another post (hence the mention of nomadic tribes). I was wondering why my comment got downvoted lol

hanisod, (edited ) in Spotify Wrapped 2023 is out, what's your top artist and top song for the year?
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DeathWearsANecktie,

+44 - 155 is a great song, shame they only ever put out 1 album

DumbAceDragon, (edited ) in Spotify Wrapped 2023 is out, what's your top artist and top song for the year?
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https://lemdro.id/pictrs/image/ae2a8ea3-c09c-4ca2-be4f-4753f07e9e3e.jpeg

Favorite new album though, probably afterthoughts by red vox

Xttweaponttx,

👏👏🤣🤣

nintendiator, in Be honest: if you had the power to stop time, your morals would go out the window.

The Boys

realistic

Ooooh boy do we tell them?

The tl;dr is: just because you suck, doesn’t mean everyone else automagically does.

Here’s the thing about the power to stop time: if it doesn’t come accompanied by a lot of secondary-required powers (2RPs) , then it’d become so cumbersome and harmful in short order that your morals wouldn’t have time (stopped or not) to flush down the toiler in the first place. Plusminus the “if you’d do it, you never had high morals in the first place” argument.

Simplest cases:

  • No 2RP power to start time. Ooopsie there goes your life as soon as your start your first experiment.
  • No ability to transfer movement / moventum to things, including air, in stopped time. You could stop time to think over a plan, but not to take prep steps for it. Forget about going to bed to take a nap: even if you could move, the bed, the carpeting and the pillow would explode into plasma as soon as time resumed.
  • If time is stopped, that means you are blind, right? Photons going around are stopped, and they can’t interact with your body that way.
  • Breathing too, for that matter. Dragon Ball Z actually toyed with that idea with a character who could stop time but only while holding his breath.
afraid_of_zombies, in Be honest: if you had the power to stop time, your morals would go out the window.

Yes but I would take out every dictator on earth I could before. A knife and a bicycle, go right over the DMZ and then make sure Putin gets his.

Phanlix,

See for me it’d just be the richest 1% of people in the world.

afraid_of_zombies,

You would never be able to enjoy it or explain how you got it. Someone would eventually noticed all this money went missing from a bank and there is some rando with all this money with the same serial numbers on it spending.

I like my plan. You could even leave notes on the dead bodies of the dictators. Or leave warnings. Imagine Winnie the Pooh blinks and there is a knife on his desk with a note telling him that you want the genocide to stop.

Venat0r,

I think he’s just saying he would assassinate the richest 1%, as opposed to just robbing them.

afraid_of_zombies,

Oh. Well nothing of value would be lost.

III,

I am sure the knife would dull and the bicycle would wear… so, some loss.

a_wild_mimic_appears,

But switching out the knife would not be ecological. the last 100 billionaires would probably prefer a spoon.

afraid_of_zombies,

A tool that gets worn from use is never a loss.

Phanlix,

No, you missed me. Richest 1% in the world. Which would include dictators.

stjobe,

An also a lot of middle-class western people. 1% of the world’s population is about 80 million people.

You’d have to go down to 0.001% to only target the ultra-wealthy.

Phanlix,

Nah, I’m fine offing upper middle class considering their Republican voting trend.

bouh, in Be honest: if you had the power to stop time, your morals would go out the window.

That is actually wrong. Countries with death penalty and free weapon carrying show that both assertions are wrong.

If course you need the power to commit a crime in order to commit it. But most people who have the power don’t commit crimes.

Society didn’t appear out of nowhere. And crimes are a much more complex matter than “can I do it without consequences”

tomi000,

Countries with free weapon carrying show what exactly? A few hundred dead school kids asking.

calypsopub,

80 million people in the USA own weapons but only a tiny percentage commit crimes with them. Seems like that proves most people are not mad villains

tomi000, (edited )

Obviously not all of them, just like not every single person would abuse superpowers. But the numbers are still orders of magnitude higher than everywhere without weapons, even though shooting someone still has consequences unlike doing shit while invisible.

Madrigal, in Customs Officers: Have you ever laughed out loud when someone gave you their passport and they had an… unusual name?

“Shitto” is a real name in Zimbabwe.

HonorIsDead, in Be honest: if you had the power to stop time, your morals would go out the window.

For sure. I wouldnt outright hurt people but id definitely do things to improve my own life. Assuming it’s the kind of time stopping power where I am not affected and can still interact with objects I’d use sports or roulette gambling to get rich. Easy to manufacture winning with time stopping powers in either.

If I wanted to be ethical I guess I could put on some sort of circus/magician act with tricks and feats abusing the power but I don’t know how rich you can get off what would be perceived as a really good trick.

Id also like to know the extent of the ability, if I stop time indefinitely, do I still age or am I immortal in a paused world? Can I stop time travel the world and see every sight and read every book then restart everything having lost nothing aside from my own sanity?

This is important because it determines if it’s worth trying to be a super hero with this power imo. If I can stop time and help people avoid death all while being able to go right back to where I was losing no true time it’s worth it, otherwise I’d still be aging and I’d grow older faster than everyone around me. Id die earlier in real time if I continue to age while I stop time for everything else. If that’s the case I’d only use the ability really for my own benefit.

Lemmyvisitor,

travel the world with time stopped? sounds like a lot of walking

HonorIsDead,

True but if you had potentially infinite time, why not? I suppose nutrition and hydration maybe an issue depending on how the ability works too. It would be annoying to have to lug around supplies.

Lemmyvisitor,

would be a bit awkward to have godlike power and still die of thirst in the desert

III,

Would time ever start back up then? With great cosmic power comes great cosmic responsibility.

royal_starfish,

Thing is if you stop time you would also stop yourself, so either you can move stupidly quickly(or even FTL, which means physics just goes out the window, since the entirety of your body can’t convert that much energy to go even 1% the speed of light, so either you would have to somehow inject massive amounts of energy into your body which will still only grant you a short amount of time, not to mention medical complications; or you literally generate energy out of nowhere, which at that point you might as well be a god);

or everything else stops, which means you can’t breath unless you also control air around you, and if you can control air particles around you, why not other types of particles? And once you can control any types particles you might as well be a god since what’s stopping you from literally doing bloody nuclear fusion and turning the entire planet into a star?

So basically if you can stop time you are literally a god Or you defy the laws of physics which also makes you basically a god Or you die while stopping time which would kinda be weird as you just kinda suffocated to death out of nowhere

exponential_wizard,

Stealing money from gambling organizations is ethical what are you talking about

Kbobabob,

You might want to read it again

exponential_wizard,

I read it again and it says the same thing, what am I missing

Kbobabob,

It in no way says that stealing from a casino is ethical. In fact, they even say “if i wanted to be ethical…” after the casino bit.

exponential_wizard,

Ah, i see, you are the one who needs to re-read my comment then

Kbobabob,

Ah, i see. Without punctuation it can be read as a question or a statement.

ByGourou, (edited )

He did not outright tell that it would be unetical but he implied it.

…gambling lottery… But if I wanted to be ethical

Imply that the roulette part is unethical.

He said he would do it tho, so I guess it’s not unethical enough for him not to do it. Stealing is unethical but yeah, it’s casino, so it’s not that bad.

Ravi, in Why do people hate on mobile games, call them "not real games" and mock them, when some mobile-exclusive games are the best games I've played?

Multiple things:

  • A lot of mobile games include ridiculous micro transactions
  • a lot are copy paste concepts or are missing game depth and complexity (comparable with Minesweeper or Solitaire)
  • the standard input device (touch) is not great for traditional games developed for physical button games

There are definitely exceptions to the problems, but I haven’t found a mobile game yet that catches me for 100h.

Globulart,

If you like tower defense games bloons td6 will.

£6 for probably an average of 30min - 1hr per day for the last year for me. With shit loads of content still not done and lots I haven’t learned yet.

Icedrous, in So Kissinger must have had use to someone? What did he do right and for who?

I don’t even know who that is, and I was surprised to see so many posts seemingly celebrating someone’s death

shalafi,

See this comment? It’s a pretty good breakdown.

old.lemmy.world/comment/5707971

originalfrozenbanana,

Few people in history are responsible for as much suffering as Kissinger.

A_Union_of_Kobolds, (edited )

Former National Security advisor and Secretary of State who, among other things, deliberately prolonged the Vietnam War just to get Nixon elected, drove policies which decimated Cambodia and Laos, and had ties to the Pinochet regime. Western Liberals prefer to remember him for setting up talks with China, and detente with the Soviets. The founder of realpolitik and symbol of Western imperialism over the last half of the 20th century.

Many of us have been waiting a long, long time to piss on his grave, including (I’m sure) the families of the half-million or so people who died in Indochina because of the extended war and carpet-bombing.

shalafi,

remember him for setting up talks with China, and detente with the Soviets. The founder of realpolitik and symbol of Western imperialism over the last half of the 20th century

Now we’re getting to my question!

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