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GrayBackgroundMusic, in Wait... nevermid you're right.

Oh, you have kids, too?

craftyindividual, (edited ) in We all know this is how it works

Who is the woman on left? Please don’t say Nixon

SatansInteriorDsgnr,

On the left? Nixon. On the right? Ice Spice.

craftyindividual,

Thank you!

bingbong,

On the left is Nixon, oooh you mean on the right?

That’s Margaret Thatcher

zepheriths, in Is this what people think about Tor browser?

Besides Tor was (initially) developed by the NSA. I would be surprised if there wasn’t a government backdown

InfiniWheel,

I’d argue its in their best interest for it to be as secure and widely used as possible. Can’t have other govs peeking (every lock can be lockpicked yadda yadda) and can’t have people instantly know its the US military when someone accesses Tor.

nightwatch_admin,

Exactly. And if you want to catch bad guys, you can build honeypot websites (or take over bad ones, like law enforcement did with several dark markets) and work on deanonimyzing visitors there.

Hotdogman,

Thought it was the navy that did.

kautau,

You’re correct

In 2004, the Naval Research Laboratory released the code for Tor under a free license

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(network)?wprov=sfti1#H…

plague_sapiens,
@plague_sapiens@lemmy.world avatar

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(network)Not NSA and no backdoor so far. It’s not needed, control enough hops and you can trace a lot and even deanonymize clients. Tor has it’s weaknesses, maybe implemented just for that. But afaik they’re mostly caused by design.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

It is made and funded by DARPA, and NSA hosts some of the nodes on TOR network.

Ultraviolet,

It’s open source, if there was a back door it would have been found years ago.

Tetsuo,

It’s open source, anybody can audit the code. Everybody can keep secret what they found and sell it.

TacoNissan,

It’s very likely that more than a single person would find an issue…

Flumsy,

The NSA uses TOR themselves. Why would they even want it to be insecure?

Tetsuo,

I’m not speaking of this project in particular.

Just saying, just because something is open source doesn’t mean it has no vulnerability or backdoor in it’s code.

There is plenty of example of vulnerabilities that existed for years in major open source projects. And there is definitely people that discover some zero day and straight up sell them and stay quiet.

If you look at some of the businesses in the market of zero day vulns you can see what they offer for good vulns.

Who cares if the NSA uses it. Or if they say they use it. They gain nothing in saying they use a specific product. But that’s a good way to encourage others to use it. I certainly wouldn’t trust the NSA on anything they say publicly.

You can backdoor a product just for you and still release it so other people you might be interested in will give you cool data. In cryptography this is not really an issue to have backdoors that only some people can use.

papalonian, in Is this what people think about Tor browser?

I don’t know anything about Tor and at this point I’m too afraid to ask.

RedditRefugee69,

It seems like Tor is just super-incognito mode. Like the for real one

SubArcticTundra,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

Tor is incognito mode except that this time it isn’t fake

Hypnoctopus,
@Hypnoctopus@lemmy.ml avatar

Incognito mode is just to keep your family from seeing what you do not from keeping the gubberment

RedditRefugee69,

Thank you. Couldn’t have said it better

rockSlayer,

It’s a heavily modified firefox browser designed to work with something called “the onion network”. It’s called this because there are several nodes on the network designed to obfuscate your Internet traffic by wrapping a layer on your Internet traffic, creating an “onion”. All of these layers mean that each node only knows what the previous and next nodes are. The most vulnerable nodes are the starting and exit nodes, because they can identify you and potentially trace back your IP. You also can’t choose your starting or exit nodes. It’s well known that the US federal government controls some of these exit nodes.

Rustmilian,
@Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

Just don’t login to anything. Easy.

papalonian,

I still know incredibly little about the Tor browser and how it works, but I appreciate your response!

I guess I don’t understand what the difference is between using the Tor browser and just using a VPN. I’ve also got very little idea what a “node” is so that’s probably my issue haha.

AnarchistArtificer,

Thanks for asking this follow-up question - until I read your comment, I hadn’t realised that this is sort of my confusion about Tor too

Imacat,

When you use a vpn, any traffic that would go between you and a website goes through the vpn first. Makes it hard for sites to know who you are and makes it hard for your isp to know what sites you visit.

When you use tor, any traffic that would go between you and a website is bounced around between a few different computers first. Similar to a vpn but is near impossible to track unless you’re a big gov agency with lots of resources.

nightwatch_admin,

There’s one thing missing from your reply: the vpn provider knows who you are and what you are doing, so it’s not better than an isp - just a trust tradeoff.

papalonian,

That brought things down to understandable levels for me. Thanks! Think I’ve got a grasp on it and kind of considering getting it myself.

force,

Using a VPN makes your traffic travel through the VPN server to get encrypted before reaching the destination.

Using Tor basically does this 3 times, but it’s decentralized so it goes through multiple different random relays before reaching the destination. And it changes which relays you’re using every 10 minutes.

When using a VPN you’re basically relying on your VPN service giving it their all when it comes to protecting your privacy, and also on them not bending over to the government if it wants to monitor you. Which you won’t get with a lot of VPNs (especially not free VPNs).

Since Tor is decentralized and changes your connections frequently, it’s virtually impossible to monitor someone using Tor. The chance that all 3 relays your traffic travels through are controlled by people coordinating to get you are slim in the first place, without even considering the relays changing.

You can also use both Tor and a VPN at once, but to do so properly is a lot more convoluted than just turning on your VPN and using Tor at the same time.

SartorialSass,

Newbie here. How would you do so properly?

melooone,
Kirca,

This sounds strictly better than a regular browser, is there some obvious downsides that im missing (I know I could google this but you write very clearly and concisely and if it’s not too much trouble, I’d love to hear your views on this)

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

It is usually much slower than a direct connection or a commercial VPN.

Also law enforcement, spy agencies and criminals all run public nodes to get lucky and grab as much data on you as possible. So you should never use TOR for unencrypted websites. But I’d say the same should be assumed when using a commercial VPN.

force, (edited )

Really the only reason to use Tor is if you really need a certain type of privacy, or to bypass certain restrictions on websites. It’s definitely not something to use as a daily driver, it can be cumbersome and using it incorrectly puts you at risk.

It doesn’t have a lot of features that normal browsers use – it doesn’t save history, some sites don’t work on Tor because it does a lot of fancy stuff like blocking trackers. You shouldn’t use extensions on Tor either, that can get you deanonymised.

It also doesn’t guarantee a lot of protection against malicious actors on the web. You still have to be as cautious about what websites you use as you would on any other browser.

You also can’t really do things that demand a lot of bandwith like downloading large files on Tor – speeds are extremely slow due to all of the privacy measures they take, and it causes a LOT of strain on Tor nodes and makes the experience worse for everyone. If you’re pirating/torrenting, just use a VPN.

You shouldn’t do anything on Tor that exposes personal/sensitive information, including logging onto websites with your personal accounts, that defeats almost the entire purpose of using it for the average user (anonymity) and can actually put you at risk.

Especially don’t do anything like online banking or shopping on Tor. It’s not suitable for secure online transactions.

Basically only use it for stuff that DOESN’T require personal/sensitive/identifying info, and stuff that DOESN’T use up a lot of bandwidth.

Honestly for the average person, Tor is completely useless. Most should only use it if they know there’s something they may need to hide from a government/ISP/etc. Otherwise just Firefox with some extensions and changed settings will do.

Flumsy,

TOR and VPN at once is just dumb and probably less secure than just using TOR.

Omega_Haxors, (edited ) in Is this what people think about Tor browser?

The stereotype of pedophiles using the dark web is absolutely true. I hosted an exit node and not even a day later got a call from my ISP. I told them I was hosting an exit node and they instantly understood the situation, went to close the node and have never hosted another one since.

iloverocks,

I am also thinking about hosting my own but that outch

Amends1782,

Do it with a VPS provider not your own network that is plain silly

beefcat, (edited )

I could never be comfortable with myself knowing I was facilitating the transmission of CSAM.

iloverocks,

I wouldnt do it so ether

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

It is not worth the risk. Do not do it. “Freedom” assholes do not care about abusing said freedom or being responsible with it, to not waste it on watching fucking child porn.

Omega_Haxors,

Tell me about it. A disturbing amount of people only care about free speech for that one sole reason, and it shows.

TheAnonymouseJoker, (edited )
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

I have tried to call out anonymity abusers and “freezepeach” irresponsible assholes in privacy community for a while, being in the community for years now as a known privacy guide writer. I think the only way this selfish ignoramus community will ever listen is when they suffer due to these insufferable sewage rats that love to use freedom to say N word, f*g or watch child porn. I am getting tired of blaring the horns and hammering the gong.

chiliedogg, in Almost that time of year

I’ve come to realize adulthood begins when your favorite Christmas gifts are socks and other clothes.

Damaskox, in FYI
@Damaskox@kbin.social avatar

Ridiculous to see Christmas stuff in the market in September already! (I live in Finland)

TurdMongler,

Its September in Finland right now?! Lmao jk

Damaskox,
@Damaskox@kbin.social avatar

Stuff appeared when it was September.

Imgonnatrythis, in Calculus? Nah, bro, that's easy stuff

Paper towel crowd is just as evil.

Bene7rddso,

Toilet paper is just small paper towels that don’t scratch your butt

TurdMongler,

Now splinter free!

guiguinofake, (edited ) in These blueberries are getting expensive!

Computers, model kits, model trains, legos, road biking, mountain biking <br> Im fucked

TheyCallMeHacked, in Wait... nevermid you're right.

One thing I like to do is to build on top of their lie. That way they can’t call you out without admitting they were lying

Mothra, in Take my strong hand!
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

Savage, it can qualify for the murdered by words community

MdRuckus, in Take my strong hand!

Looks like Roland Schitt.

boogetyboo,
@boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

Same actor referenced

MdRuckus,

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    @boogetyboo@aussie.zone avatar

    Chris Elliot plays the hand in mash Potato referenced in the image

    Valmond, in "BLUE LIVES MATTER"

    How to even start, everything isn’t about the USA.

    What do you want to convey here? I mean why not take a smart, intelligent stake on some logic you think seems to be right instead of mixing some random meme stuff together?

    Feels like Kremlin bait posting so please prove me you have an opinion more than A bad, B good or something.

    Melkath,

    $317.9 billion dollars from 1951 to 2022 plus whatever the total is for 2023 so far (I think we are at about 30 billion this year so far?) plus however much more we will siphon into their police state to enrich American military contractors.

    That's why its about America.

    culprit,
    @culprit@lemmy.ml avatar

    Since the early 90s, hundreds of law enforcement officers, including police officers and agents from the FBI, CIA, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), have either been sent to Israel through police exchanges, or attended summits within the US that were sponsored by Israeli lobby organisations.

    Police forces from Florida, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, California, Arizona, Connecticut, New York, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Georgia, Washington state and others have participated in the training, including one that took place in Minneapolis, the city where Floyd was killed.

    Leading human rights groups have denounced the exchange programmes, warning that Israeli police standards and tactics only serve to exacerbate racial profiling and police brutality in the US.

    “With a long record of human rights violations, Israeli security forces are an incredibly problematic training partner,” Patrick Wilcken, Amnesty International USA’s researcher for arms control, security and human rights told MEE.

    Micky Rosenfeld, an Israeli police spokesperson, rejected criticisms of the training scheme, telling MEE that the police exchanges in Israel provide American forces with valuable information on how to “prevent and respond” to attacks.

    “The learning and sharing has saved many lives both in Israel and overseas throughout the years,” Rosenfeld said.

    “The organisations that are calling out, specifically in the US, against law enforcement learning and sharing are weakening the nation’s preparedness to respond to terror attacks, hate crimes and extremists who break the law.”

    Deestan,

    Guilt by association is weak. Association through multiple steps even more so.

    culprit, (edited )
    @culprit@lemmy.ml avatar

    aljazeera.com/…/black-lives-do-not-matter-in-isra…

    On March 17, one of Israel’s two chief rabbis, Yitzhak Yosef, called black people “monkeys” and the Hebrew equivalent of the N-word in his weekly sermon.

    It is highly unlikely that Yosef will face any real repercussions for his racist comments. He was not demoted after saying in a similar sermon exactly two years ago that all non-Jews – Africans, Arabs, or otherwise – could only live in Israel if they agree to serve the country’s Jewish population.

    It’s unclear if Yosef’s recent comments were directly connected to the Israeli government’s impending expulsion of approximately 40,000 African refugees, mainly Christians and Muslims from Eritrea and Sudan.

    The government has already coerced more than a third of the African refugee community in Israel, over 20,000 souls, to return to Africa. Israeli journalists have revealed in recent months that the government’s promises to secure status for them in Rwanda or Uganda were only a ruse, devised to deport them back into a stateless existence– with their ostensible acquiescence.

    To be fair, racist comments from state-paid rabbis aren’t exactly a rarity in Israel. Israel’s other chief rabbi, Yisrael Lau, used the N-word to describe Black athletes on his very first day in office in July 2013.

    But another anti-African comment made last week, by Israel’s most powerful politician, was almost certainly timed to coincide with the government’s efforts to ethnically cleanse the country of the refugees.

    On March 19, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a public speech that the arrival of non-Jewish African refugees was “much worse” for Israel than “severe attacks by Sinai terrorists”.

    Netanyahu’s comments come as citizens across the country have been publicly expressing reservations to his expulsion plan. Since the start of the calendar year, Israelis from all walks of life have registered their adamant opposition to the planned deportations, scheduled to begin on April 1: doctors and artists, professors and pilots, students and survivors of the Holocaust. On Saturday night, a pro-refugee protest in Tel Aviv drew over 20,000 thousand people opposed to the expulsion.

    But Netanyahu need not worry about amassing support for the deportation plan. True, a recent poll proved that the majority of the Israelis that live in proximity to the African refugees – in the Greater Tel Aviv area generally, and in the slums of South Tel Aviv specifically – oppose the expulsions. But outside of that liberal bubble, Netanyahu has easily secured support for his plan.

    It is highly unlikely that Yosef will face any real repercussions for his racist comments. He was not demoted after saying in a similar sermon exactly two years ago that all non-Jews – Africans, Arabs, or otherwise – could only live in Israel if they agree to serve the country’s Jewish population.

    It’s unclear if Yosef’s recent comments were directly connected to the Israeli government’s impending expulsion of approximately 40,000 African refugees, mainly Christians and Muslims from Eritrea and Sudan.

    The government has already coerced more than a third of the African refugee community in Israel, over 20,000 souls, to return to Africa. Israeli journalists have revealed in recent months that the government’s promises to secure status for them in Rwanda or Uganda were only a ruse, devised to deport them back into a stateless existence– with their ostensible acquiescence.

    To be fair, racist comments from state-paid rabbis aren’t exactly a rarity in Israel. Israel’s other chief rabbi, Yisrael Lau, used the N-word to describe Black athletes on his very first day in office in July 2013.

    But another anti-African comment made last week, by Israel’s most powerful politician, was almost certainly timed to coincide with the government’s efforts to ethnically cleanse the country of the refugees.

    On March 19, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a public speech that the arrival of non-Jewish African refugees was “much worse” for Israel than “severe attacks by Sinai terrorists”.

    Netanyahu’s comments come as citizens across the country have been publicly expressing reservations to his expulsion plan. Since the start of the calendar year, Israelis from all walks of life have registered their adamant opposition to the planned deportations, scheduled to begin on April 1: doctors and artists, professors and pilots, students and survivors of the Holocaust. On Saturday night, a pro-refugee protest in Tel Aviv drew over 20,000 thousand people opposed to the expulsion.

    But Netanyahu need not worry about amassing support for the deportation plan. True, a recent poll proved that the majority of the Israelis that live in proximity to the African refugees – in the Greater Tel Aviv area generally, and in the slums of South Tel Aviv specifically – oppose the expulsions. But outside of that liberal bubble, Netanyahu has easily secured support for his plan. Sign up for Al Jazeera

    Omega_Haxors,

    What?! Gremlins!?

    PatFussy, in Stayin' Alive

    Christmas music from 90s is mariah carey, 00s consists of justin beiber and 10s consist of Ariana grande. I would take 50s christmas any day over these options

    Arxir, in another day another banger

    The story turns out to be an act of revenge by the co-author, who donated 10 million pound to Cameron’s party in hopes of being given a cabinet position. After Cameron refused to give him such, Ashcroft co-wrote an unauthorized “biography” of Cameron.

    With this in mind, I wouldn’t give this story any second thought other than the realization that Ashcroft is an utter tool.

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