One to create communities on discuss.tchncs.de (my former “trying Lemmy out instance”), and one on my single user instance lemmy.cwagner.me ;) I use the same account to write in both English and German, but I generally prefer English anyway.
I used to check the front page at least once every day, and occassionally check specific subreddits. Now I don’t look at reddit unless theres some drama, like mods getting purged, then I’d go there and enjoy the drama. Occasionally there will be questions that only reddit has the answer to so I have to reluctantly use it. I...
Same here but for rif, had to finally uninstall it because it was getting frustrating.
But honestly lemmy content is really fire and I don’t really feel the need to look elsewhere, except for some niche communities. I’m thinking about opening a second private instance that just mirrors the few reddit communities i miss.
I don't think it's exactly the same on lemmy -- you can't seem to sub to an entire instance, for example -- but there's at least some similar capability.
For instance, I'm on kbin right now, so when I click your user name I go to a kbin version of your lemmy.world profile page: https://kbin.social/u/@SubsAndDubs@lemmy.world. It has the option to block or follow you, which should show your posts in my kbin feed. As far as I know, Lemmy can't do the same with kbin users. I haven't found a way to follow other lemmy users either, except on kbin.
So if your main instances was, say, beehaw.org, you would search for !RedditMigration and you'd see that community pop up in the results. You can subscribe to it that way and it would be in your subs list on beehaw. The same should be true of kbin magazines/communities.
It looks like each community on lemmy has their address posted next to the subscription box, so you can paste it into your lemmy.world search and sub to anything you want regardless which instance it's on.
In theory this is going to work (maybe?) with other fedi services like Mastodon, but I suspect the admins and devs have to build a lot of things, so it may not be around for awhile.
You can bypass the need for #2. See my other, longer post in this thread. You can find any community you want and make your instance aware of it (as long as the host instance is not defederated, I presume). No need to depend on others searching.
Or at least give the the additional option to see a feed of all instances and communities across Lemmy / the fediverse I have not personally blocked or filtered out.
I believe that option is possible if you set up your own instance, which, yeah, is admittedly non-trivial resource-wise (time/money/effort). Maybe slightly less non-trivial would be finding an instance that is itself fully permissive.
I am looking for a place that is as close to “as long as it’s not illegal, it’s allowed” as possible. Is there a good way to narrow down my search without going to every single server and reading their sidebar?
The whole point of federation is that you don’t have to pick just one place. You can add communities from nsfw instances, communities from nerd tv instances, communities from your geographic locality, etc…
After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to....
I totally get that but I want to grow Lemmy and want users to join Lemmy. They won’t if they could just subscribe to our communities. Plus I don’t want threads to benefit from my content if I post to instances federating with Threads
the admins are known to be Uyghur genocide deniers and pro-North-Korea
Do you have a link for this? I want to read it. I picked lemmy.ml because it was used by Memmy app community, has decent userbase, and they block threads.net. This is the description on join-lemmy.org/instances : “A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers”
my understanding from Lemmy.world’s post was “guys, we’re years away from it if it ever happens, maybe we should chill until we learn more?”
Did they post their official’s stance on it? All I saw was a post by ruud, the instance owner on Mastodon
As I explained in another comment, if they don’t block a server, they are federating with it. Meta could be testing as we speak
There’s a really big difference though between communities splitting off Reddit and split from an instance here. I still have my Lemmy.world account but I’m defaulting now to this one. Lemmy.world is a great starting point for people to branch from and pick from there.
You can still access your communities without visiting the instance.
Yeah, it just doesn’t really exist yet. I’m not sure a really well-moderated community for news content can exist yet on Lemmy, due to the culture that’s slowly springing up, but if it did it’d have to be on a dedicated instance, I expect - one with a very, very dedicated set of moderators with relatively strict rules regarding what is sufficiently-well-sourced content, and all other communities on the instance being held up to the same bar in their specific niches in order to encourage that kind of posting culture.
Honestly, I don’t think Reddit ever achieved a really good result either - the news subreddits were all dumpster fires to varying degrees - but Lemmy’s immaturity worsens the issue here, I think. It’s pretty appallingly obvious. I’d look elsewhere for news opinion aggregation, for the time being.
I been trying to search and finally found lemmynsfw.com/c/gaybrosgonewild but I can’t add it anywhere. I searched but nothing pops up. And can’t find a place to subscribe. I’m looking to subscribe to it and have it pop up on my feed but I can’t seem to figure out how. It’s rather frustrating and if I can’t find a...
Follow the link from the LinkFixerBot so it’ll load that community whilst keeping you logged in on your instance, and you’ll see a big “Subscribe” button.
In a way I'm glad this time around we're building our OWN instead of jumping into another centralized platform. If it happens again, we can just shard off and host out own instance and still follow all our favorite communities etc .... @Paesan
Someone explained it really, really well on Reddit some years ago:
Hexbear.net started out as chapo.chat - a replacement for the defunct r/ChapoTrapHouse community after it was banned from Reddit. It launched one year ago today, based on a modified version of the Lemmy source code. At the time, Lemmy itself was only around a year old, and in an alpha state. Since r/ChapoTrapHouse had accumulated a long list of enemies in its time, a dozen or so members of the community did about a month-long sprint hardening Lemmy and adding features that reflected the needs of the community.
The developers of Lemmy maintained a pretty low-profile community, while the Chapo refugees were the exact opposite of low-profile, so the communities had divergent priorities. It wouldn’t be fair to demand the Lemmy developers drop everything they were doing to satisfy the Chapo refugee’s needs, but the needs of the Chapo community still had to be met for the project to be successful.
The process was very chaotic, and as a result, the fork of Lemmy used for Hexbear.net will likely never be capable of federating with the wider network of Lemmy instances. A handful of changes were contributed upstream, but many of them likely will never be accepted. None the less, it still abides by the AGPL license and the code is publicly available on git.chapo.chat.
The relationship between Hexbear.net and Lemmy is basically that the Chapo refugees decided Lemmy was the most viable platform to work with, and the Lemmy developers were completely blindsided. The Chapo git repository recorded about 2000 changes within the span of a month and not all of the changes were ideal or appropriate to adopt upstream. Within a week or two of launching, chapo.chat had more users than the flagship Lemmy instance. This was also before federation was officially supported upstream, even though that was always the goal of the project. Had the timing worked out differently, Hexbear might have been federated before adding additional features for their instance, but that’s not how things turned out.
This question may be moot but it’s something I’ve been thinking about. I’ve only recently jumped into this brave new world so you’ll have to forgive my ignorance....
Were you a subreddit mod? In this case my advice would be to contact the existing mods of the lemmy communities / kbin magazines and see if one of them is willing to hand the community over to you (add you as mod, they step down). If so, you've found your new home!
(you may want to re-make your account on the instance that you're primarily spending time on, for convenience, in case federation doesn't work for several hours at a time here and there, etc)
That's what would fix things for me; make the federation 100% behind-the-curtain so that I don't have to think about it. I don't care about the backend, I'm not hosting, the value to me is ad views only, not cash.
Again, sounds like if we did have multimagazine support (as I described earlier) then things would be fixed for you. If I've missed anything, please detail that out.
The fediverse/threadiverse is not a drop-in replacement for Reddit.
So actually there's an active effort to re-expose lemmy's API as reddit's own API (allowing folks to use things like PRAW with lemmy and even kbin thanks to the magic of federation). In theory third party apps could simply point to a server hosting this API, instead of reddit's site, and just work with the fediverse.
I know that's not what you meant, but that is pretty drop-in.
Until it is, I'll keep one foot in spez's yard. If Meta's Threads product does become an ActivityPub community and solves this issue, I'll move there
It likely would because it seems like it won't federate with the rest of us and just either be a single instance or at best a group of instances controlled by fb that only federate with each other. Either way the number of duplicately named magazines is strictly limited.
. I'd argue a solid 80% of users on corp-owned social media wouldn't understand even if you simplify it.
You can search the Fediverse from one instance using the Magazines tab in Kbin to find places to sub, or sub to communities you find in all feed etc?
This is the first thing. I think this might not always be turning up everything due to the delays with federation. While we might be able to agree that this is good enough, I think another reasonable person can look at this and say that there's room for some technical improvements.
Is the issue to do with the duplication of communities at present
This is the second one. As others have also pointed out, reddit has the same issue so it's not unique to federation (tho this person seems to get hung up specifically on the precise naming to make it federation specific). I think we can adapt the reddit solution (multireddits) to here as well though to solve this (i.e. come up with a scheme for multimagazines).
But I'm not switching between instances
This is the third one, but I think this is not valid. As you say, one can choose to have multiple accounts on other instances, but it's not needed to participate on the other instances. This person says it's their choice to have the other accounts - but then makes a big stink over the effort of having multiple accounts. Like if it's that much trouble then just don't do it.
long term there does need to be tools to allow communities to migrate base from one instance to another
I thought that this might be an issue but actually I raised this point and it wasn't responded to.
The fourth one is that this person seems to consider kbin.social its own distinct platform - which doesn't make sense in light of federation - and seems to prefer centralization in general (despite seeing the good from multiplexing BBSes), but I'm waiting on a response as to why this should be the case. Like what are the specific arguments to prefer centralization to a single server or a single instance?
It does occur to me however that if a paid shill were to try to promote a centralized service over an open source federated one, a way to win folks over might be to present oneself as a highly experienced technical person with direct expeirence in both kinds of systems, but who ultimately prefers centralization and has good technical arguments to back it up, including pointing out flaws or gaps with the existing federated system. And also insist that more people flock to the single overloaded flagship instance, perhaps causing it to overload and die off.
Not saying for sure that this is the case here, but food for thought.
One of the hurdles to change for users switching from reddit to a federated platform is less content. The logic goes: “smaller community, less content, I can see i’m missing out on stuff over there so I’m not going to switch away”....
Very insightful points. I totally agree about the intimidation factor of spamming posts with no comments or organic interaction. But it's also a fine line, someone needs to be posting something to get the ball rolling.
I also want to continue spreading the word about federation issues. I've been on Lemmy for a month now and it's going great. But that whole time, it's essentially been impossible to comment on kbin magazines. The comments simply don't show up. I'm not seeing most of your comments when browsing here from Lemmy, but I am seeing Lemmy comments.
I obviously have this account, but its annoying to keep switching between accounts, plus I haven't really gotten the hang of the kbin interface yet.
Point being, I suspect much of the sluggishness of organic growth is not due to a small userbase, but rather due to the fact nobody can actually find the threads and comment on them efficiently. We need to remain steadfast and trust that the developers will fix this stuff up soon. I really feel that simply making Lemmy and kbin federate perfectly would immediately make this platform 10 times more active. We have plenty of people but right now we are fragmented into parallel communities. This isn't even getting into the server overload at a number of Lemmy instances.
I just don't want people to write off the platform before we can see how it's actually meant to work. I've seen a ton of brilliant comments on kbin and I haven't even had the chance to really mix it up with you guys yet.
I’m really enjoying lemmy. I think we’ve got some growing pains in UI/UX and we’re missing some key features (like community migration and actual redundancy). But how are we going to collectively pay for this? I saw an (unverified) post that Reddit received 400M dollars from ads last year. Lemmy isn’t going to be free....
Storage doesn’t distribute, though. Every instance needs to save everything. I run my own instance, so the way it works, is that I save everything anyone posts in any community I subscribed to. Permanently, by default.
Bandwidth, sure, mostly. But storage will only grow. And massive amounts of instances will also add issues over time, unlike something like XMPP/Jabber, the fediverse is more of a hubs and spokes model.
Everyone? At once and next week? It would just die.
Kbin.social had a nice post (check their meta community for it; it’s technically a different software, but still), how the instance went from costing $2-3 a month to 1000. And that’s a tiny fraction of reddit.
Development needs to advance just to better handle current user counts, there’s a lot of things that simply never were an issue when only a few hundred users were active.
The way it will work, is probably donations, maybe some very few paid instances.
I'm a sucker at using the kbin / Lemmy search. I am still looking for these communities:
/r/atbge
/r/justfuckmyshitup
/r/catsareassholes
/r/thecatdimension
/r/KidsAreFuckingStupid
/r/cologne or / r/koeln
/r/parents or /r/eltern
/r/djs or /r/beatmatch
/r/house or /r/deephouse
There are probably more... If noone knows where these communities exist on Lemmy or kbin, I will create them! Maybe you can help me deciding on which instance it would be best. I can do lemmy.ml, lemmy.world, feddit.de and kbin.
I’m confused about where my content is stored and therefore when to apply the rules of my instance. Let’s say for example that an instance says that NSFW is strictly forbidden. Which of the following is permitted then?...
In reading the rules and pinned posts, it doesn’t seem to me that my question is out of line with the intention of the community. However, if I am mistaken, please remove the post and accept my sincere apologies....
do you have multiple lemmy accounts in different instances. why?
i personally have ones for languages English is lemmy.blahaj.zone | and for estonian lemm.ee
Be honest, do you still use reddit?
I used to check the front page at least once every day, and occassionally check specific subreddits. Now I don’t look at reddit unless theres some drama, like mods getting purged, then I’d go there and enjoy the drama. Occasionally there will be questions that only reddit has the answer to so I have to reluctantly use it. I...
Those who tried Linux and went back to Windows, what caused you to go back to Windows?
Additionally, what changes are necessary for you to be able to use Linux full time?
Reddit exodus - Using Lemmy from my existing Mastodon (vijayprema.com)
Many are turning to Lemmy as a viable Reddit alternative. Here is how to use your existing Mastodon account with Lemmy.
What's your filter settings on Lemmy? I feel like I miss the big posts and such.
Been loving the fed, but the past few days i’m wondering if my setup is wrong on this site?...
Is there an efficient way to search for lemmy instances based on their rules?
I am looking for a place that is as close to “as long as it’s not illegal, it’s allowed” as possible. Is there a good way to narrow down my search without going to every single server and reading their sidebar?
Dilemma with contributing to niche Communities on Instances federating with Threads
After moving here from lemmy.world after learning of their view on federation with Threads, I now face a dilemma which I do not have a clear answer to....
Where do you go on Lemmy for reliable news and politics?
I’m enjoying Lemmy so far, for the most part....
Using Lemmy. How do I add say a porn sub to my list? I’m so confused
I been trying to search and finally found lemmynsfw.com/c/gaybrosgonewild but I can’t add it anywhere. I searched but nothing pops up. And can’t find a place to subscribe. I’m looking to subscribe to it and have it pop up on my feed but I can’t seem to figure out how. It’s rather frustrating and if I can’t find a...
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it (media.kbin.social)
Reddit Migration Directory: Subreddit Replacements (redditmigration.com)
A nice directory of subreddits and where to find them on the threadiverse!
What is Hexbear and how its story intertwines to Lemmy's?
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Is there 'etiquette' for choosing which instance your migrated subreddit is hosted on?
This question may be moot but it’s something I’ve been thinking about. I’ve only recently jumped into this brave new world so you’ll have to forgive my ignorance....
People in /r/redditalternatives are talking about a "Reddit 2.0" What website would fill that role? (kbin.social)
On Reddit at reddit.com/r/redditalternatives, people are talking about a "Reddit 2.0." What do you suggest?
What's your opinion on cross-posting?
One of the hurdles to change for users switching from reddit to a federated platform is less content. The logic goes: “smaller community, less content, I can see i’m missing out on stuff over there so I’m not going to switch away”....
How are we going to pay for all this?
I’m really enjoying lemmy. I think we’ve got some growing pains in UI/UX and we’re missing some key features (like community migration and actual redundancy). But how are we going to collectively pay for this? I saw an (unverified) post that Reddit received 400M dollars from ads last year. Lemmy isn’t going to be free....
Reddit refugees, has your favorite sub migrated already?
I, being someone who works with computers, have had some luck with most of my favorite subs being here already....
When and where do the instance content rules apply?
I’m confused about where my content is stored and therefore when to apply the rules of my instance. Let’s say for example that an instance says that NSFW is strictly forbidden. Which of the following is permitted then?...
Besides Teddit, which is being severely limited by the API debacle and has instances shutting down, what Reddit front-ends still work? (tedd.it)
In reading the rules and pinned posts, it doesn’t seem to me that my question is out of line with the intention of the community. However, if I am mistaken, please remove the post and accept my sincere apologies....