BigBlackCockroach

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

then don’t you have a candy stash to give out candy to trick or treaters?

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

sure! but i am not posting this for politcal reasons, I only mentioned this to open and honest about my motivations. This post is asking a technical question however

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

If you want to discuss anarchy let’s do that on an anarchy subLemmy. This is not a political post, even though I mentioned my political leanings, for the sake of full disclosure.

The question i am asking is technical: how to implement community self-governance.

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.

Assuming that it follows that such moderation without any individual in power might still be implemented by reflecting the community will through some mechanism. So voting doesn’t work as long as everybody can create a million bot accounts. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. Same with other approaches. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody can come up with a technical solution for this.

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

anarch

this isn’t a political post, I am asking a technical question. I just stated where I’m coming from to be honest and upfront with everybody.

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

It only worked with primitive and small groups of people

Through recursion any organizing principle that works for a small group can be extended to work on a group of any size. Example the military: 10 soldiers are a squad and lead by a seargant and ten such squads are lead in exactly the same way by a Leftenant. In turn 10 of these companies are then ran by a commander in the exact same fashion.

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

I doubt you can

I am convinced it must be possible: The public square doesn’t have moderators. I want to recreate the public square online, I suspect this is mostly a technical problem.

I also see no reason why there couldn’t be a way for the community itself to deal with disruptive actors through some mechanism that does not put any sole individual in power.

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

I’m not familiar with xitter what happened and how did it work?

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).

exactly, this is one of the core obstacles to overcome, it’s clear to everybody that (with few exceptions) nobody wants casm material online or even existing in the first place. One user or a group of them shouldn’t be allowed to curtail the freedom of the entire community by subjecting them to awful content. However if ten downvotes means your post and you are gone, then that would be used by other (less) unsavory characters, to remove anybody they dislike…

This is what my post among others is asking, how to resolve this issue, with a technical solution?

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

the tragedy of the commons describes a different scenario not related to this…

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

what if it was peer to peer? basically ever user contributing with their own hardware, like in bittorrent.

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

The bigger issue is who runs the software and on what hardware? Implementing safeguards to keep server admins in line with the community would be much more difficult than mods.

could this maybe be adressed through the use of peer to peer technology similar to bittorrent?

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

But the same assumption also means that one can rely on the majority of the users to be pro-social. Thus one can lean on this majority of angels to do the moderating.

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

Once a mod is in position, the community has no influence over his/her/their decisions.

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

a larger group can without issue be constituted solely out of smaller groups. And the larger group behave as if the smaller groups were individuals in a smaller group.

recursion can fix this imho

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

but he isnt involved in the way presidential candidates are usually involved in congress or senate.

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

😂

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

I am not sure what evidence there is or what studies were the basis of the rumors I’ve heard, this study was what I found on google 😂

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

I eat oats too, have you heard of the rumor that oats bind vitamins/minerals and thus you eat a a healthy breakfast with oats and fruit but the oats suck up all the nutrients and you get nothing out of it? I am not sure why but i think they claimed there was some binding agent in oats, like some chemical compound.

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

I’ve been eating them raw for years 😬

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

😃enjoy your meal!

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

wonderful walkable neighborhood x_x

I’m so jealous right now, I wish we had those type of neighborhoods were I lived.

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

except biscuits/ cookies

How do you deal this your love for cookies? I imagine cookies is probably one of the most dangerous weaknesses to have. Especially chocolate cookies with chocolate chips I would find difficult to pass on and probably would go through an entire display if enough milk was available. 😈

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

I hear you, so since you aim for mostly vegetarian diet, would you exempt eggs from that?

BigBlackCockroach, 2 years ago

• Teach people how to think (logical falacies etc.)
• Teach people about rethoric and sophism
• Philosophy
• Science
• Debate culture that goes beyond gotcha!