Vespair

@Vespair@lemm.ee

you’re probably an idiot. I know I am.

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Vespair,

I guess I’m fine with pizzacake’s awful zero-punchline comics being here on Lemmy, I just hope her stupid cult doesn’t follow and this community doesn’t turn into some pizzacake safe fan space where you literally aren’t allowed to say anything that isn’t directly kissing her ass, like /r/comics.

Vespair,

If by that you mean absolutely flip her shit over the most mild and milquetoast of criticism, then yeah sure

Vespair,

I’m talking about the creator, relevant, and specifically referring to this particular comic (as well as their others) as awful and without a punchline, so that doesn’t feel like nothing about the topic to me.

Negativity is a valid opinion and negativity isn’t the same as incivility (and thus shouldn’t be prohibited)

Vespair, (edited )

There really isn’t. The “punchline” here is predicated on the idea that the reader will assume the character will react with transphobia, as if transphobia is the default reaction, but if you don’t assume that reaction either because that’s not your worldview or you’re familiar enough with the creator to understand the context of their work, then there is nothing left to serve as a punchline. I won’t say “virtue signaling” because that’s a stupid phrase and frankly there is legitimately some value to the signaling of virtue in the first place anyway (especially when said signal is one of welcoming to a disenfranchised community like our trans brothers and sisters), but the only “joke” here is pandering. It’s “hey you expected me to be awful but I’m actually incredible!!,” and that’s not a punchline.

edit: typos

Vespair,

I didn’t say the reader, I said the character. She isn’t making any “comment” about anything here; acknowledging a situation exists is not inherently making commentary on it nor injecting humor into it. This is at best pandering, at worst pandering with an appetizer of rage-baiting.

Do I hate this? No. Is it evil? No. Do I hate pizzacake? No. Do I even object to this awful non-punchline comic being posted here? No. The only thing I object to is the bullshit special treatment and kid gloves certain creators on the other site received for no worthwhile reasons, and am preemptively sounding the alarm that we should be wary that such behavior does not seep over here too.

Point being, if you enjoy this comic, punchline or not, that is okay. I’m not really interested in further spending time arguing the merits or non-merits of the work of somebody I’m not interested in with you, so if you still wish to argue that there is some deep commentary or punchline to be found here, I hope we simply land on agreeing to disagree on the topic.

Vespair,

I find it doesn’t meet my standards for a punchline, if that’s what you’re trying to say, yes.

Vespair,

My friend, I do not agree with you.

Vespair,

This joke is so old and obvious, that there was literally a beer in America named He’Brew for 25 years.

Vespair,

Wait… How am I missing out on all this NSFW content? I’m just seeing Linux and Star Trek memes, somebody help me find the titties!

Vespair,

Accord to status.lemm.ee, lemm.ee is federated with lemmynsfw and I even personally sub to a couple lemmynsfw communities. I also have NSFW enabled and unblurred in settings, and still I never see porn unless I actively seek it out. I want surprise titties, goddamn it!

Vespair, (edited )

Hey, I don’t love my client yet, so I’m down to check out Thunder. Thanks for the recommendation, whether it ends up not helping me find my sought-after surprise titties or not 👍

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