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Response
200 OK
IP
3.139.58.206
Profiled on
Token
70bd28

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

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context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
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2 
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3 
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4 
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5 
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6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
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9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
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11 
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12 
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13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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2 DENIED moderate 
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      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Rules\n
      -----\n
      \n
      Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people— Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren’t talking over men expressing their own lived experiences. —\n
      \n
      Be productive— Be proactive in forming a productive discussion. Constructive criticism of our community is fine, but if you mainly criticize feminism or other people’s efforts to solve gender issues, your post/comment will be removed. Keep the following guidelines in mind when posting: * Build upon the OP * Discuss concepts rather than semantics * No low effort comments * No personal attacks —\n
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      \n
      ##### Recommended Reading\n
      \n
      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
      - *Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements* by Michael Messner\n
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      ---\n
      \n
      ##### Related Communities\n
      \n
      !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
      !askmen@lemmy.world  \n
      !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world\n
      \n
      ---
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      Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people— Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren’t talking over men expressing their own lived experiences. —\n
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      No brigading— Do not participate if you have been linked to this discussion from elsewhere. Similarly, links to elsewhere on the threadiverse must promote constructive discussion of men’s issues. —\n
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      ##### Recommended Reading\n
      \n
      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
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      ---\n
      \n
      ##### Related Communities\n
      \n
      !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
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      !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world\n
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      ---
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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Show voter details
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      \n
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      \n
      Rules\n
      -----\n
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      Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people— Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren’t talking over men expressing their own lived experiences. —\n
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      Be productive— Be proactive in forming a productive discussion. Constructive criticism of our community is fine, but if you mainly criticize feminism or other people’s efforts to solve gender issues, your post/comment will be removed. Keep the following guidelines in mind when posting: * Build upon the OP * Discuss concepts rather than semantics * No low effort comments * No personal attacks —\n
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      No brigading— Do not participate if you have been linked to this discussion from elsewhere. Similarly, links to elsewhere on the threadiverse must promote constructive discussion of men’s issues. —\n
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      ##### Recommended Reading\n
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      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
      - *Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements* by Michael Messner\n
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      ##### Related Communities\n
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      !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
      !askmen@lemmy.world  \n
      !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world\n
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      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
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      ---\n
      \n
      ##### Recommended Reading\n
      \n
      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
      - *Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements* by Michael Messner\n
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      ---\n
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      ##### Related Communities\n
      \n
      !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
      !askmen@lemmy.world  \n
      !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world\n
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      \n
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              I don’t know how much I trust AEI’s motivation, methods or conclusions. The same survey also shows gen z are much less likely to go to church, less likely to drink and smoke, less likely to have a girlfriend/boyfriend…and gen x and boomers are more likely to do all of that. Is it true? Probably. But when you are asking a 19 year old and a 59 year old the same question…how do you even calculate what the answer means?\n
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          Yes I’m joking because the very premise of comparing the age groups with specific questions is problematic. “Are you a feminist” doesn’t mean the same thing to someone born in 2002 as it does someone born in 1972.\n
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      +body: "Language changes with time, not with birth year. While someone born in 1972 certainly has much more life experience and context than someone born in 2002, the question today will mean approximately the same thing to both."
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    +body: "Not really, no. People aren’t working off some master database of language that pushes updates out universally. They’re working from their own understanding based on their own life experiences. Someone born in 1973 will have a very different socialization and bundle of personal experiences than someone born in 2002."
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    > People aren’t working off some master database of language that pushes updates out universally.\n
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      \n
      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
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      !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
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          Yes I’m joking because the very premise of comparing the age groups with specific questions is problematic. “Are you a feminist” doesn’t mean the same thing to someone born in 2002 as it does someone born in 1972.\n
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    > People aren’t working off some master database of language that pushes updates out universally.\n
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    Actually, they pretty much are. Think about it: Language would pretty much fall apart otherwise.\n
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      **This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.**\n
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      -----\n
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      \n
      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
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      ##### Related Communities\n
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      !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
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              I don’t know how much I trust AEI’s motivation, methods or conclusions. The same survey also shows gen z are much less likely to go to church, less likely to drink and smoke, less likely to have a girlfriend/boyfriend…and gen x and boomers are more likely to do all of that. Is it true? Probably. But when you are asking a 19 year old and a 59 year old the same question…how do you even calculate what the answer means?\n
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          Yes I’m joking because the very premise of comparing the age groups with specific questions is problematic. “Are you a feminist” doesn’t mean the same thing to someone born in 2002 as it does someone born in 1972.\n
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    > People aren’t working off some master database of language that pushes updates out universally.\n
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    Source: I’m a linguist.
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                I don’t know how much I trust AEI’s motivation, methods or conclusions. The same survey also shows gen z are much less likely to go to church, less likely to drink and smoke, less likely to have a girlfriend/boyfriend…and gen x and boomers are more likely to do all of that. Is it true? Probably. But when you are asking a 19 year old and a 59 year old the same question…how do you even calculate what the answer means?\n
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            Yes I’m joking because the very premise of comparing the age groups with specific questions is problematic. “Are you a feminist” doesn’t mean the same thing to someone born in 2002 as it does someone born in 1972.\n
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      Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people— Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren’t talking over men expressing their own lived experiences. —\n
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                I don’t know how much I trust AEI’s motivation, methods or conclusions. The same survey also shows gen z are much less likely to go to church, less likely to drink and smoke, less likely to have a girlfriend/boyfriend…and gen x and boomers are more likely to do all of that. Is it true? Probably. But when you are asking a 19 year old and a 59 year old the same question…how do you even calculate what the answer means?\n
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            Yes I’m joking because the very premise of comparing the age groups with specific questions is problematic. “Are you a feminist” doesn’t mean the same thing to someone born in 2002 as it does someone born in 1972.\n
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            If you ask me…a 40-something man, I say yes I’m a feminist because I want you to know I am an ally and support women. If you ask a 16 year old, I would doubt the word means much to them at all. But I bet they will be more supportive of women than our generation anyway.
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      > People aren’t working off some master database of language that pushes updates out universally.\n
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      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
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            Yes I’m joking because the very premise of comparing the age groups with specific questions is problematic. “Are you a feminist” doesn’t mean the same thing to someone born in 2002 as it does someone born in 1972.\n
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      > People aren’t working off some master database of language that pushes updates out universally.\n
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              Yes I’m joking because the very premise of comparing the age groups with specific questions is problematic. “Are you a feminist” doesn’t mean the same thing to someone born in 2002 as it does someone born in 1972.\n
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      **This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.**\n
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      Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people— Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren’t talking over men expressing their own lived experiences. —\n
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      \n
      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
      - *Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements* by Michael Messner\n
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      ##### Related Communities\n
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      !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
      !askmen@lemmy.world  \n
      !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world\n
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                  I don’t know how much I trust AEI’s motivation, methods or conclusions. The same survey also shows gen z are much less likely to go to church, less likely to drink and smoke, less likely to have a girlfriend/boyfriend…and gen x and boomers are more likely to do all of that. Is it true? Probably. But when you are asking a 19 year old and a 59 year old the same question…how do you even calculate what the answer means?\n
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              Yes I’m joking because the very premise of comparing the age groups with specific questions is problematic. “Are you a feminist” doesn’t mean the same thing to someone born in 2002 as it does someone born in 1972.\n
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              If you ask me…a 40-something man, I say yes I’m a feminist because I want you to know I am an ally and support women. If you ask a 16 year old, I would doubt the word means much to them at all. But I bet they will be more supportive of women than our generation anyway.
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      **This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.**\n
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      ---\n
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      Rules\n
      -----\n
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      Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people— Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren’t talking over men expressing their own lived experiences. —\n
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      ##### Recommended Reading\n
      \n
      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
      - *Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements* by Michael Messner\n
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      ##### Related Communities\n
      \n
      !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
      !askmen@lemmy.world  \n
      !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world\n
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                  I don’t know how much I trust AEI’s motivation, methods or conclusions. The same survey also shows gen z are much less likely to go to church, less likely to drink and smoke, less likely to have a girlfriend/boyfriend…and gen x and boomers are more likely to do all of that. Is it true? Probably. But when you are asking a 19 year old and a 59 year old the same question…how do you even calculate what the answer means?\n
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              Yes I’m joking because the very premise of comparing the age groups with specific questions is problematic. “Are you a feminist” doesn’t mean the same thing to someone born in 2002 as it does someone born in 1972.\n
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              If you ask me…a 40-something man, I say yes I’m a feminist because I want you to know I am an ally and support women. If you ask a 16 year old, I would doubt the word means much to them at all. But I bet they will be more supportive of women than our generation anyway.
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        > People aren’t working off some master database of language that pushes updates out universally.\n
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        Source: I’m a linguist.
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      -----\n
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      ##### Recommended Reading\n
      \n
      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
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      ##### Related Communities\n
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      !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
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      !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world\n
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            I don’t know how much I trust AEI’s motivation, methods or conclusions. The same survey also shows gen z are much less likely to go to church, less likely to drink and smoke, less likely to have a girlfriend/boyfriend…and gen x and boomers are more likely to do all of that. Is it true? Probably. But when you are asking a 19 year old and a 59 year old the same question…how do you even calculate what the answer means?\n
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    > Gen-X men see eye-to-eye with male Gen-Zers. An identical 43 percent of men in that bracket call themselves feminists, compared to 49 percent of the generation’s women.\n
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      ##### Recommended Reading\n
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      - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
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