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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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I’m going to drop in again to say that Albucierre’s particular solution in his doctoral thesis was a mathematical closed form corner solution for tractability.\n
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All to say that the elaboration of Albucierre’s approach seems likely to take it exactly in the direction of some of the distinctions the OP has noticed.\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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\n
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\n
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\n
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\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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**5. Tag spoilers.**\n
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Historically Daystrom has not had a spoiler policy, so you may encounter untagged spoilers here. Ultimately, avoiding online discussion until you are caught up is the only certain way to avoid spoilers.\n
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#### **Episode Guides**\n
\n
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\n
- [Kraetos’ guide to Star Trek (the original series)](https://startrek.website/post/760)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Next Generation](https://startrek.website/post/768)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/776)\n
- [Darth_Rasputin32898’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/772)\n
- [OpticalData’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/780)\n
- [petrus4’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/781)
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
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> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
\n
At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
\n
> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
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What’s surprising is that subspace signals aren’t that much faster than a given starship is. At full tilt, the Sovereign is almost as fast as the radio signal it’s transmitting, and later generations of starships might well match, or even surpass it.\n
\n
> So what if generating a warp field is like domain amplification, creating a bubble of a subspace domain that encloses the ship? This subspace or warp bubble is then shaped by the nacelles, which distorts space locally, allowing the bubble and the ship to be propelled along at FTL speed. This is because while inside the bubble, the rules of subspace apply, not the relativistic rules of real space. It therefore becomes possible to exceed c in that special frame of reference. And yet, the bubble is still strongly connected to real space, so the ship can interact with objects outside the bubble. This explains the existence of Newtonian forces like inertia, acceleration and momentum still acting on the ship, and the continuing need for inertial dampers at warp.\n
\n
At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
\n
> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
\n
In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
\n
> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
\n
At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
\n
It’d be like giving Calorie two different definitions. Does a 200 Calorie food mean that it has 200 Calories, or 200 KiloCalories, and someone’s just used shorthand?
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\n
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\n
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\n
#### **Episode Guides**\n
\n
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\n
- [Kraetos’ guide to Star Trek (the original series)](https://startrek.website/post/760)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Next Generation](https://startrek.website/post/768)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/776)\n
- [Darth_Rasputin32898’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/772)\n
- [OpticalData’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/780)\n
- [petrus4’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/781)
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
\n
> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
\n
At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
\n
> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
\n
What’s surprising is that subspace signals aren’t that much faster than a given starship is. At full tilt, the Sovereign is almost as fast as the radio signal it’s transmitting, and later generations of starships might well match, or even surpass it.\n
\n
> So what if generating a warp field is like domain amplification, creating a bubble of a subspace domain that encloses the ship? This subspace or warp bubble is then shaped by the nacelles, which distorts space locally, allowing the bubble and the ship to be propelled along at FTL speed. This is because while inside the bubble, the rules of subspace apply, not the relativistic rules of real space. It therefore becomes possible to exceed c in that special frame of reference. And yet, the bubble is still strongly connected to real space, so the ship can interact with objects outside the bubble. This explains the existence of Newtonian forces like inertia, acceleration and momentum still acting on the ship, and the continuing need for inertial dampers at warp.\n
\n
At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
\n
> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
\n
In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
\n
> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
\n
At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
\n
It’d be like giving Calorie two different definitions. Does a 200 Calorie food mean that it has 200 Calories, or 200 KiloCalories, and someone’s just used shorthand?
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
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> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
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At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
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> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
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In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
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> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
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> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
\n
At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
\n
> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
\n
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> So what if generating a warp field is like domain amplification, creating a bubble of a subspace domain that encloses the ship? This subspace or warp bubble is then shaped by the nacelles, which distorts space locally, allowing the bubble and the ship to be propelled along at FTL speed. This is because while inside the bubble, the rules of subspace apply, not the relativistic rules of real space. It therefore becomes possible to exceed c in that special frame of reference. And yet, the bubble is still strongly connected to real space, so the ship can interact with objects outside the bubble. This explains the existence of Newtonian forces like inertia, acceleration and momentum still acting on the ship, and the continuing need for inertial dampers at warp.\n
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At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
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In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
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> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
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At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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It’d be like giving Calorie two different definitions. Does a 200 Calorie food mean that it has 200 Calories, or 200 KiloCalories, and someone’s just used shorthand?
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(also copying my answer from the other place)\n
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Good points, but to address a couple of them:\n
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> At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The Constellation, sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the Hathaway also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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I’m not suggesting that if warp drive gives out that impulse cannot be used. It obviously can be from the examples you’ve quoted, but I’d say that without the warp assist (from internal driver coils or external nacelles), it’s less efficient and speed would be reduced. From SNW: “Memento Mori” itself:\n
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> **ORTEGAS**: The starboard nacelle is half-damaged. I can get us about half speed.\n
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Given the Tech Manual’s idea of incorporating warp drivers into impulse engines, I thought this fit in nicely as well with the idea of using a warp field’s mass-lowering properties to assist impulse operations.\n
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> At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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Coincidentally, Sternbach and Okuda have thought about those effects, because the Tech Manual makes passing reference to Starfleet safety standards for subspace field exposure in talking about the inertial dampening system:\n
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> The IDF operates by maintaining a low-level forcefield throughout the habitable volume of the spacecraft. This field averages 75 millicochranes with field differential limited to 5.26 nanocochranes/meter, per SFRA-standard 352.12 for crew exposure to subspace fields.\n
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Like many things, they kind of gloss over them, but those millicochrane levels are pretty low, so there must be some kind of protective measure to mitigate against too much direct exposure to subspace. Perhaps it’s in the material hulls and EVA suits are made of? Maybe any deleterious subspace radiation can be blocked easily.\n
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> At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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Although, for practical purposes since ultimately the ship is moving through real space anyway despite being enclosed in a subspace bubble, it all evens out in the wash. I mean, when we’re saying Warp 3 is 39*c* (TNG scale), we still have to ask ourselves 39*c* relative to what? And the answer to that might be relative to subspace as a frame of reference, and the distance travelled is simply expressed in real space terms.
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
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> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
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At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
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What’s surprising is that subspace signals aren’t that much faster than a given starship is. At full tilt, the Sovereign is almost as fast as the radio signal it’s transmitting, and later generations of starships might well match, or even surpass it.\n
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> So what if generating a warp field is like domain amplification, creating a bubble of a subspace domain that encloses the ship? This subspace or warp bubble is then shaped by the nacelles, which distorts space locally, allowing the bubble and the ship to be propelled along at FTL speed. This is because while inside the bubble, the rules of subspace apply, not the relativistic rules of real space. It therefore becomes possible to exceed c in that special frame of reference. And yet, the bubble is still strongly connected to real space, so the ship can interact with objects outside the bubble. This explains the existence of Newtonian forces like inertia, acceleration and momentum still acting on the ship, and the continuing need for inertial dampers at warp.\n
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At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
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In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
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> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
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At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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It’d be like giving Calorie two different definitions. Does a 200 Calorie food mean that it has 200 Calories, or 200 KiloCalories, and someone’s just used shorthand?
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(also copying my answer from the other place)\n
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Good points, but to address a couple of them:\n
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> At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The Constellation, sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the Hathaway also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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I’m not suggesting that if warp drive gives out that impulse cannot be used. It obviously can be from the examples you’ve quoted, but I’d say that without the warp assist (from internal driver coils or external nacelles), it’s less efficient and speed would be reduced. From SNW: “Memento Mori” itself:\n
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> **ORTEGAS**: The starboard nacelle is half-damaged. I can get us about half speed.\n
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Given the Tech Manual’s idea of incorporating warp drivers into impulse engines, I thought this fit in nicely as well with the idea of using a warp field’s mass-lowering properties to assist impulse operations.\n
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> At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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Coincidentally, Sternbach and Okuda have thought about those effects, because the Tech Manual makes passing reference to Starfleet safety standards for subspace field exposure in talking about the inertial dampening system:\n
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> The IDF operates by maintaining a low-level forcefield throughout the habitable volume of the spacecraft. This field averages 75 millicochranes with field differential limited to 5.26 nanocochranes/meter, per SFRA-standard 352.12 for crew exposure to subspace fields.\n
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Like many things, they kind of gloss over them, but those millicochrane levels are pretty low, so there must be some kind of protective measure to mitigate against too much direct exposure to subspace. Perhaps it’s in the material hulls and EVA suits are made of? Maybe any deleterious subspace radiation can be blocked easily.\n
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> At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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Although, for practical purposes since ultimately the ship is moving through real space anyway despite being enclosed in a subspace bubble, it all evens out in the wash. I mean, when we’re saying Warp 3 is 39*c* (TNG scale), we still have to ask ourselves 39*c* relative to what? And the answer to that might be relative to subspace as a frame of reference, and the distance travelled is simply expressed in real space terms.
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
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> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
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At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
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What’s surprising is that subspace signals aren’t that much faster than a given starship is. At full tilt, the Sovereign is almost as fast as the radio signal it’s transmitting, and later generations of starships might well match, or even surpass it.\n
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> So what if generating a warp field is like domain amplification, creating a bubble of a subspace domain that encloses the ship? This subspace or warp bubble is then shaped by the nacelles, which distorts space locally, allowing the bubble and the ship to be propelled along at FTL speed. This is because while inside the bubble, the rules of subspace apply, not the relativistic rules of real space. It therefore becomes possible to exceed c in that special frame of reference. And yet, the bubble is still strongly connected to real space, so the ship can interact with objects outside the bubble. This explains the existence of Newtonian forces like inertia, acceleration and momentum still acting on the ship, and the continuing need for inertial dampers at warp.\n
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At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
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In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
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> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
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At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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It’d be like giving Calorie two different definitions. Does a 200 Calorie food mean that it has 200 Calories, or 200 KiloCalories, and someone’s just used shorthand?
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(also copying my answer from the other place)\n
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Good points, but to address a couple of them:\n
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> At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The Constellation, sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the Hathaway also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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I’m not suggesting that if warp drive gives out that impulse cannot be used. It obviously can be from the examples you’ve quoted, but I’d say that without the warp assist (from internal driver coils or external nacelles), it’s less efficient and speed would be reduced. From SNW: “Memento Mori” itself:\n
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> **ORTEGAS**: The starboard nacelle is half-damaged. I can get us about half speed.\n
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Given the Tech Manual’s idea of incorporating warp drivers into impulse engines, I thought this fit in nicely as well with the idea of using a warp field’s mass-lowering properties to assist impulse operations.\n
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> At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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Coincidentally, Sternbach and Okuda have thought about those effects, because the Tech Manual makes passing reference to Starfleet safety standards for subspace field exposure in talking about the inertial dampening system:\n
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> The IDF operates by maintaining a low-level forcefield throughout the habitable volume of the spacecraft. This field averages 75 millicochranes with field differential limited to 5.26 nanocochranes/meter, per SFRA-standard 352.12 for crew exposure to subspace fields.\n
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Like many things, they kind of gloss over them, but those millicochrane levels are pretty low, so there must be some kind of protective measure to mitigate against too much direct exposure to subspace. Perhaps it’s in the material hulls and EVA suits are made of? Maybe any deleterious subspace radiation can be blocked easily.\n
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> At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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Although, for practical purposes since ultimately the ship is moving through real space anyway despite being enclosed in a subspace bubble, it all evens out in the wash. I mean, when we’re saying Warp 3 is 39*c* (TNG scale), we still have to ask ourselves 39*c* relative to what? And the answer to that might be relative to subspace as a frame of reference, and the distance travelled is simply expressed in real space terms.
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
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> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
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At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
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What’s surprising is that subspace signals aren’t that much faster than a given starship is. At full tilt, the Sovereign is almost as fast as the radio signal it’s transmitting, and later generations of starships might well match, or even surpass it.\n
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> So what if generating a warp field is like domain amplification, creating a bubble of a subspace domain that encloses the ship? This subspace or warp bubble is then shaped by the nacelles, which distorts space locally, allowing the bubble and the ship to be propelled along at FTL speed. This is because while inside the bubble, the rules of subspace apply, not the relativistic rules of real space. It therefore becomes possible to exceed c in that special frame of reference. And yet, the bubble is still strongly connected to real space, so the ship can interact with objects outside the bubble. This explains the existence of Newtonian forces like inertia, acceleration and momentum still acting on the ship, and the continuing need for inertial dampers at warp.\n
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At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
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In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
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> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
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At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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It’d be like giving Calorie two different definitions. Does a 200 Calorie food mean that it has 200 Calories, or 200 KiloCalories, and someone’s just used shorthand?
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(also copying my answer from the other place)\n
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Good points, but to address a couple of them:\n
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> At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The Constellation, sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the Hathaway also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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I’m not suggesting that if warp drive gives out that impulse cannot be used. It obviously can be from the examples you’ve quoted, but I’d say that without the warp assist (from internal driver coils or external nacelles), it’s less efficient and speed would be reduced. From SNW: “Memento Mori” itself:\n
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> **PIKE**: How fast can you push impulse?\n
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> **ORTEGAS**: The starboard nacelle is half-damaged. I can get us about half speed.\n
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Given the Tech Manual’s idea of incorporating warp drivers into impulse engines, I thought this fit in nicely as well with the idea of using a warp field’s mass-lowering properties to assist impulse operations.\n
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> At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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Coincidentally, Sternbach and Okuda have thought about those effects, because the Tech Manual makes passing reference to Starfleet safety standards for subspace field exposure in talking about the inertial dampening system:\n
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> The IDF operates by maintaining a low-level forcefield throughout the habitable volume of the spacecraft. This field averages 75 millicochranes with field differential limited to 5.26 nanocochranes/meter, per SFRA-standard 352.12 for crew exposure to subspace fields.\n
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Like many things, they kind of gloss over them, but those millicochrane levels are pretty low, so there must be some kind of protective measure to mitigate against too much direct exposure to subspace. Perhaps it’s in the material hulls and EVA suits are made of? Maybe any deleterious subspace radiation can be blocked easily.\n
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> At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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Although, for practical purposes since ultimately the ship is moving through real space anyway despite being enclosed in a subspace bubble, it all evens out in the wash. I mean, when we’re saying Warp 3 is 39*c* (TNG scale), we still have to ask ourselves 39*c* relative to what? And the answer to that might be relative to subspace as a frame of reference, and the distance travelled is simply expressed in real space terms.
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
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> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
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At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
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What’s surprising is that subspace signals aren’t that much faster than a given starship is. At full tilt, the Sovereign is almost as fast as the radio signal it’s transmitting, and later generations of starships might well match, or even surpass it.\n
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> So what if generating a warp field is like domain amplification, creating a bubble of a subspace domain that encloses the ship? This subspace or warp bubble is then shaped by the nacelles, which distorts space locally, allowing the bubble and the ship to be propelled along at FTL speed. This is because while inside the bubble, the rules of subspace apply, not the relativistic rules of real space. It therefore becomes possible to exceed c in that special frame of reference. And yet, the bubble is still strongly connected to real space, so the ship can interact with objects outside the bubble. This explains the existence of Newtonian forces like inertia, acceleration and momentum still acting on the ship, and the continuing need for inertial dampers at warp.\n
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At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
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In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
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> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
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At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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It’d be like giving Calorie two different definitions. Does a 200 Calorie food mean that it has 200 Calories, or 200 KiloCalories, and someone’s just used shorthand?
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(also copying my answer from the other place)\n
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Good points, but to address a couple of them:\n
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> At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The Constellation, sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the Hathaway also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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I’m not suggesting that if warp drive gives out that impulse cannot be used. It obviously can be from the examples you’ve quoted, but I’d say that without the warp assist (from internal driver coils or external nacelles), it’s less efficient and speed would be reduced. From SNW: “Memento Mori” itself:\n
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> **PIKE**: How fast can you push impulse?\n
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> **ORTEGAS**: The starboard nacelle is half-damaged. I can get us about half speed.\n
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Given the Tech Manual’s idea of incorporating warp drivers into impulse engines, I thought this fit in nicely as well with the idea of using a warp field’s mass-lowering properties to assist impulse operations.\n
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> At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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Coincidentally, Sternbach and Okuda have thought about those effects, because the Tech Manual makes passing reference to Starfleet safety standards for subspace field exposure in talking about the inertial dampening system:\n
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> The IDF operates by maintaining a low-level forcefield throughout the habitable volume of the spacecraft. This field averages 75 millicochranes with field differential limited to 5.26 nanocochranes/meter, per SFRA-standard 352.12 for crew exposure to subspace fields.\n
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Like many things, they kind of gloss over them, but those millicochrane levels are pretty low, so there must be some kind of protective measure to mitigate against too much direct exposure to subspace. Perhaps it’s in the material hulls and EVA suits are made of? Maybe any deleterious subspace radiation can be blocked easily.\n
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> At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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Although, for practical purposes since ultimately the ship is moving through real space anyway despite being enclosed in a subspace bubble, it all evens out in the wash. I mean, when we’re saying Warp 3 is 39*c* (TNG scale), we still have to ask ourselves 39*c* relative to what? And the answer to that might be relative to subspace as a frame of reference, and the distance travelled is simply expressed in real space terms.
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
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> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
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At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
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What’s surprising is that subspace signals aren’t that much faster than a given starship is. At full tilt, the Sovereign is almost as fast as the radio signal it’s transmitting, and later generations of starships might well match, or even surpass it.\n
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> So what if generating a warp field is like domain amplification, creating a bubble of a subspace domain that encloses the ship? This subspace or warp bubble is then shaped by the nacelles, which distorts space locally, allowing the bubble and the ship to be propelled along at FTL speed. This is because while inside the bubble, the rules of subspace apply, not the relativistic rules of real space. It therefore becomes possible to exceed c in that special frame of reference. And yet, the bubble is still strongly connected to real space, so the ship can interact with objects outside the bubble. This explains the existence of Newtonian forces like inertia, acceleration and momentum still acting on the ship, and the continuing need for inertial dampers at warp.\n
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At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
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In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
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> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
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At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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It’d be like giving Calorie two different definitions. Does a 200 Calorie food mean that it has 200 Calories, or 200 KiloCalories, and someone’s just used shorthand?
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(also copying my answer from the other place)\n
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Good points, but to address a couple of them:\n
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> At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The Constellation, sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the Hathaway also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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I’m not suggesting that if warp drive gives out that impulse cannot be used. It obviously can be from the examples you’ve quoted, but I’d say that without the warp assist (from internal driver coils or external nacelles), it’s less efficient and speed would be reduced. From SNW: “Memento Mori” itself:\n
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> **PIKE**: How fast can you push impulse?\n
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Given the Tech Manual’s idea of incorporating warp drivers into impulse engines, I thought this fit in nicely as well with the idea of using a warp field’s mass-lowering properties to assist impulse operations.\n
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> At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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Coincidentally, Sternbach and Okuda have thought about those effects, because the Tech Manual makes passing reference to Starfleet safety standards for subspace field exposure in talking about the inertial dampening system:\n
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> The IDF operates by maintaining a low-level forcefield throughout the habitable volume of the spacecraft. This field averages 75 millicochranes with field differential limited to 5.26 nanocochranes/meter, per SFRA-standard 352.12 for crew exposure to subspace fields.\n
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Like many things, they kind of gloss over them, but those millicochrane levels are pretty low, so there must be some kind of protective measure to mitigate against too much direct exposure to subspace. Perhaps it’s in the material hulls and EVA suits are made of? Maybe any deleterious subspace radiation can be blocked easily.\n
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> At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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Although, for practical purposes since ultimately the ship is moving through real space anyway despite being enclosed in a subspace bubble, it all evens out in the wash. I mean, when we’re saying Warp 3 is 39*c* (TNG scale), we still have to ask ourselves 39*c* relative to what? And the answer to that might be relative to subspace as a frame of reference, and the distance travelled is simply expressed in real space terms.
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
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> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
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At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
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What’s surprising is that subspace signals aren’t that much faster than a given starship is. At full tilt, the Sovereign is almost as fast as the radio signal it’s transmitting, and later generations of starships might well match, or even surpass it.\n
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> So what if generating a warp field is like domain amplification, creating a bubble of a subspace domain that encloses the ship? This subspace or warp bubble is then shaped by the nacelles, which distorts space locally, allowing the bubble and the ship to be propelled along at FTL speed. This is because while inside the bubble, the rules of subspace apply, not the relativistic rules of real space. It therefore becomes possible to exceed c in that special frame of reference. And yet, the bubble is still strongly connected to real space, so the ship can interact with objects outside the bubble. This explains the existence of Newtonian forces like inertia, acceleration and momentum still acting on the ship, and the continuing need for inertial dampers at warp.\n
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At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
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In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
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> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
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At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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It’d be like giving Calorie two different definitions. Does a 200 Calorie food mean that it has 200 Calories, or 200 KiloCalories, and someone’s just used shorthand?
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(also copying my answer from the other place)\n
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Good points, but to address a couple of them:\n
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> At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The Constellation, sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the Hathaway also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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I’m not suggesting that if warp drive gives out that impulse cannot be used. It obviously can be from the examples you’ve quoted, but I’d say that without the warp assist (from internal driver coils or external nacelles), it’s less efficient and speed would be reduced. From SNW: “Memento Mori” itself:\n
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> **PIKE**: How fast can you push impulse?\n
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> **ORTEGAS**: The starboard nacelle is half-damaged. I can get us about half speed.\n
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Given the Tech Manual’s idea of incorporating warp drivers into impulse engines, I thought this fit in nicely as well with the idea of using a warp field’s mass-lowering properties to assist impulse operations.\n
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> At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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Coincidentally, Sternbach and Okuda have thought about those effects, because the Tech Manual makes passing reference to Starfleet safety standards for subspace field exposure in talking about the inertial dampening system:\n
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> The IDF operates by maintaining a low-level forcefield throughout the habitable volume of the spacecraft. This field averages 75 millicochranes with field differential limited to 5.26 nanocochranes/meter, per SFRA-standard 352.12 for crew exposure to subspace fields.\n
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Like many things, they kind of gloss over them, but those millicochrane levels are pretty low, so there must be some kind of protective measure to mitigate against too much direct exposure to subspace. Perhaps it’s in the material hulls and EVA suits are made of? Maybe any deleterious subspace radiation can be blocked easily.\n
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> At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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Although, for practical purposes since ultimately the ship is moving through real space anyway despite being enclosed in a subspace bubble, it all evens out in the wash. I mean, when we’re saying Warp 3 is 39*c* (TNG scale), we still have to ask ourselves 39*c* relative to what? And the answer to that might be relative to subspace as a frame of reference, and the distance travelled is simply expressed in real space terms.
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As I’ve noted, I’m not saying impulse doesn’t function in the absence of warp. Warp makes impulse more efficient.\n
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Also, by the mid-24th Century, impulse engines have driver coils build in which produce sublight warp fields to aid in impulse operations.
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
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> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
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At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
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What’s surprising is that subspace signals aren’t that much faster than a given starship is. At full tilt, the Sovereign is almost as fast as the radio signal it’s transmitting, and later generations of starships might well match, or even surpass it.\n
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> So what if generating a warp field is like domain amplification, creating a bubble of a subspace domain that encloses the ship? This subspace or warp bubble is then shaped by the nacelles, which distorts space locally, allowing the bubble and the ship to be propelled along at FTL speed. This is because while inside the bubble, the rules of subspace apply, not the relativistic rules of real space. It therefore becomes possible to exceed c in that special frame of reference. And yet, the bubble is still strongly connected to real space, so the ship can interact with objects outside the bubble. This explains the existence of Newtonian forces like inertia, acceleration and momentum still acting on the ship, and the continuing need for inertial dampers at warp.\n
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At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
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In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
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> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
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At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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It’d be like giving Calorie two different definitions. Does a 200 Calorie food mean that it has 200 Calories, or 200 KiloCalories, and someone’s just used shorthand?
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(also copying my answer from the other place)\n
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Good points, but to address a couple of them:\n
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> At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The Constellation, sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the Hathaway also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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I’m not suggesting that if warp drive gives out that impulse cannot be used. It obviously can be from the examples you’ve quoted, but I’d say that without the warp assist (from internal driver coils or external nacelles), it’s less efficient and speed would be reduced. From SNW: “Memento Mori” itself:\n
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> **PIKE**: How fast can you push impulse?\n
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> **ORTEGAS**: The starboard nacelle is half-damaged. I can get us about half speed.\n
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Given the Tech Manual’s idea of incorporating warp drivers into impulse engines, I thought this fit in nicely as well with the idea of using a warp field’s mass-lowering properties to assist impulse operations.\n
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> At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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Coincidentally, Sternbach and Okuda have thought about those effects, because the Tech Manual makes passing reference to Starfleet safety standards for subspace field exposure in talking about the inertial dampening system:\n
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> The IDF operates by maintaining a low-level forcefield throughout the habitable volume of the spacecraft. This field averages 75 millicochranes with field differential limited to 5.26 nanocochranes/meter, per SFRA-standard 352.12 for crew exposure to subspace fields.\n
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Like many things, they kind of gloss over them, but those millicochrane levels are pretty low, so there must be some kind of protective measure to mitigate against too much direct exposure to subspace. Perhaps it’s in the material hulls and EVA suits are made of? Maybe any deleterious subspace radiation can be blocked easily.\n
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> At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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Although, for practical purposes since ultimately the ship is moving through real space anyway despite being enclosed in a subspace bubble, it all evens out in the wash. I mean, when we’re saying Warp 3 is 39*c* (TNG scale), we still have to ask ourselves 39*c* relative to what? And the answer to that might be relative to subspace as a frame of reference, and the distance travelled is simply expressed in real space terms.
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As I’ve noted, I’m not saying impulse doesn’t function in the absence of warp. Warp makes impulse more efficient.\n
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Also, by the mid-24th Century, impulse engines have driver coils build in which produce sublight warp fields to aid in impulse operations.
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(Mostly copying the comment I did on the other places for visibility)\n
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> it is implied the nacelles assist with impulse operations (SNW: “Memento Mori”)\n
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At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The [Constellation](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Constellation_(NCC-1017)), sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the [Hathaway](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Hathaway) also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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> It is clear, though, that subspace has its own physical laws and its own special frame of reference, one of which is that you can exceed the speed of light in it: for example, the use of subspace radio which transmits at, in TNG times, Warp 9.997 (approximately 79,000c).\n
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What’s surprising is that subspace signals aren’t that much faster than a given starship is. At full tilt, the Sovereign is almost as fast as the radio signal it’s transmitting, and later generations of starships might well match, or even surpass it.\n
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> So what if generating a warp field is like domain amplification, creating a bubble of a subspace domain that encloses the ship? This subspace or warp bubble is then shaped by the nacelles, which distorts space locally, allowing the bubble and the ship to be propelled along at FTL speed. This is because while inside the bubble, the rules of subspace apply, not the relativistic rules of real space. It therefore becomes possible to exceed c in that special frame of reference. And yet, the bubble is still strongly connected to real space, so the ship can interact with objects outside the bubble. This explains the existence of Newtonian forces like inertia, acceleration and momentum still acting on the ship, and the continuing need for inertial dampers at warp.\n
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At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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> This tight coupling to real space is also why we can see “stars” streaking by while in warp (more likely dust particles in real space being accelerated as they are caught in the ship’s warp bubble). The visual change in post-DIS Trek where the outside of the ship looks more like a Stargate-ish tunnel can be explained away as what the interior of the warp bubble looks like stretched out, as the ship speeds along within it like a canoe on a river, being propelled by layers of warp energy within the bubble and also carried along by the current within the bubble itself as it cruises along.\n
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In TNG, [we see both](https://youtu.be/Vt1FOgi9sVE?t=145), with the tunnel seeming to be a transitory state as the ship accelerates to warp speed. But treating visuals as literal seems like an exercise in futility. There’s a whole bunch of exotic physics we’re not privy to that go on, in much the same way that a Q do not use warp drives for their powers (despite the similar effect), and people don’t disappear in a puff of light when transporting.\n
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> So this further suggests that the TNG Tech Manual c values are meant to reflect speeds in subspace, or rather the ship’s velocity within the warp bubble, which translates to faster velocities and thus further distances travelled in real space. In effect the ship, by surrounding itself with a subspace domain, creates its own shortcut/wormhole through real space.\n
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At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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It’d be like giving Calorie two different definitions. Does a 200 Calorie food mean that it has 200 Calories, or 200 KiloCalories, and someone’s just used shorthand?
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(also copying my answer from the other place)\n
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Good points, but to address a couple of them:\n
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> At the same time, that seems to be contradicted by ships that have no/limited warp capacity having impulse. The Constellation, sibling of the Enterprise, still retained impulse capabilities, in spite of the warp drive being turned into a pile of slag, and it’s implied that the Hathaway also retained impulse, despite the warp core being non-functional. It wouldn’t be much of a simulated combat if the Hathaway could only sit there.\n
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I’m not suggesting that if warp drive gives out that impulse cannot be used. It obviously can be from the examples you’ve quoted, but I’d say that without the warp assist (from internal driver coils or external nacelles), it’s less efficient and speed would be reduced. From SNW: “Memento Mori” itself:\n
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> **PIKE**: How fast can you push impulse?\n
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> **ORTEGAS**: The starboard nacelle is half-damaged. I can get us about half speed.\n
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Given the Tech Manual’s idea of incorporating warp drivers into impulse engines, I thought this fit in nicely as well with the idea of using a warp field’s mass-lowering properties to assist impulse operations.\n
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> At the same time, if they can do that, you might expect that the warp field could then be used as a shield against alterations in the flow of time, or that being in a warp field would be extremely bad for anyone on board who’s relying on biochemistry or conventional physics to live.\n
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Coincidentally, Sternbach and Okuda have thought about those effects, because the Tech Manual makes passing reference to Starfleet safety standards for subspace field exposure in talking about the inertial dampening system:\n
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> The IDF operates by maintaining a low-level forcefield throughout the habitable volume of the spacecraft. This field averages 75 millicochranes with field differential limited to 5.26 nanocochranes/meter, per SFRA-standard 352.12 for crew exposure to subspace fields.\n
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Like many things, they kind of gloss over them, but those millicochrane levels are pretty low, so there must be some kind of protective measure to mitigate against too much direct exposure to subspace. Perhaps it’s in the material hulls and EVA suits are made of? Maybe any deleterious subspace radiation can be blocked easily.\n
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> At the same time, using a subspace distance unit that conflicts with a realspace distance unit seems like it would cause more trouble than not. If anything, were that to be the case, you’d expect the Federation to have a separate distance for subspace travel, just to avoid people getting confused if there is a disparity between realspace and subspace.\n
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Although, for practical purposes since ultimately the ship is moving through real space anyway despite being enclosed in a subspace bubble, it all evens out in the wash. I mean, when we’re saying Warp 3 is 39*c* (TNG scale), we still have to ask ourselves 39*c* relative to what? And the answer to that might be relative to subspace as a frame of reference, and the distance travelled is simply expressed in real space terms.
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As I’ve noted, I’m not saying impulse doesn’t function in the absence of warp. Warp makes impulse more efficient.\n
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Also, by the mid-24th Century, impulse engines have driver coils build in which produce sublight warp fields to aid in impulse operations.
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> Now you’ve paused, thinking any action could cause a temporal paradox, or damage to the future timeline.\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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As far as I know, the directive mainly applies to officers who are sent back in time and/or given the opportunity to change established history. I don’t think it would prevent someone from making an arrest in their “proper” time.\n
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I guess I assumed a sort of corollary.\n
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It seems like Starfleet should have a dedicated Temporal Security crew on every starship and starbase for such an occasion. You find a supposed time traveler, you immediately call this team. They sequester the intruder and go through a careful interview to verify their claim as cleanly as possible, then render what aid is needed to secure the timeline and get them home (or, barring that possibility, get them somewhere isolated where they can’t contaminate the timeline). Then, maybe memory wipe the Temporal Security team (and possibly anyone else who interacted with the traveler). On the flipside, if you end up back in time, it’s expected you should immediately attempt to contact the local Temporal Security crew.
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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As far as I know, the directive mainly applies to officers who are sent back in time and/or given the opportunity to change established history. I don’t think it would prevent someone from making an arrest in their “proper” time.\n
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I guess I assumed a sort of corollary.\n
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Starfleet personnel ends up back in time on a Starfleet vessel. We both serve the same organization. My duty is to protect the timeline I come from. Your duty seems, implicitly, to aid a fellow Starfleet officer in their mission (to protect the aforementioned timeline).\n
\n
It seems like Starfleet should have a dedicated Temporal Security crew on every starship and starbase for such an occasion. You find a supposed time traveler, you immediately call this team. They sequester the intruder and go through a careful interview to verify their claim as cleanly as possible, then render what aid is needed to secure the timeline and get them home (or, barring that possibility, get them somewhere isolated where they can’t contaminate the timeline). Then, maybe memory wipe the Temporal Security team (and possibly anyone else who interacted with the traveler). On the flipside, if you end up back in time, it’s expected you should immediately attempt to contact the local Temporal Security crew.
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\n
Serious, in-depth discussion about *Star Trek* from both in-universe and real world perspectives.\n
\n
Read more about [how to comment at Daystrom](https://startrek.website/post/175954).\n
\n
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\n
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\n
All threads and comments submitted to the Daystrom Institute must contain an explanation of the reasoning put forth.\n
\n
**2. No whinging, jokes, memes, and other shallow content.**\n
\n
This entire community has a “serious tag” on it. Shitposts are encouraged in [Risa](https://startrek.website/c/risa).\n
\n
**3. Be diplomatic.**\n
\n
Participate in a courteous, objective, and open-minded fashion. Be nice to other posters and the people who make *Star Trek.* Disagree respectfully and don’t gatekeep.\n
\n
**4. Assume good faith.**\n
\n
Assume good faith. Give other posters the benefit of the doubt, but report them if you genuinely believe they are trolling. Don’t whine about “politics.”\n
\n
**5. Tag spoilers.**\n
\n
Historically Daystrom has not had a spoiler policy, so you may encounter untagged spoilers here. Ultimately, avoiding online discussion until you are caught up is the only certain way to avoid spoilers.\n
\n
**6. Stay on-topic.**\n
\n
Threads must discuss Star Trek. Comments must discuss the topic raised in the original post.\n
\n
#### **Episode Guides**\n
\n
The /r/DaystromInstitute wiki held a number of popular Star Trek watch guides. We have rehosted them here:\n
\n
- [Kraetos’ guide to Star Trek (the original series)](https://startrek.website/post/760)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Next Generation](https://startrek.website/post/768)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/776)\n
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As far as I know, the directive mainly applies to officers who are sent back in time and/or given the opportunity to change established history. I don’t think it would prevent someone from making an arrest in their “proper” time.\n
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I guess I assumed a sort of corollary.\n
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\n
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\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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They tend not to involve multigenerational obedience to an authoritarian regime, though…
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\n
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- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
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Historically Daystrom has not had a spoiler policy, so you may encounter untagged spoilers here. Ultimately, avoiding online discussion until you are caught up is the only certain way to avoid spoilers.\n
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**6. Stay on-topic.**\n
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Threads must discuss Star Trek. Comments must discuss the topic raised in the original post.\n
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#### **Episode Guides**\n
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The /r/DaystromInstitute wiki held a number of popular Star Trek watch guides. We have rehosted them here:\n
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- [Kraetos’ guide to Star Trek (the original series)](https://startrek.website/post/760)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Animated Series](https://startrek.website/post/765)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: The Next Generation](https://startrek.website/post/768)\n
- [Algernon_Asimov’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/776)\n
- [Darth_Rasputin32898’s guide to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine](https://startrek.website/post/772)\n
- [OpticalData’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/780)\n
- [petrus4’s guide to Star Trek: Voyager](https://startrek.website/post/781)
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