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wuphysics87, in Vulcan Sex Workers

Orion Slave Girls

GregorGizeh, (edited ) in Vulcan Sex Workers

From that voyager episode with horny belana we learn that Vulcans are basically assigned a mate, so the chances are slim that a vulcan would need release without an outlet. And aside from that, the ponfarr can also be dealt with through meditation and discipline, probably particularly created for the situations you mention where there actually is no partner available.

qantravon,

Vorik and Tuvok both claim the problem can be dealt with through meditation, but both of them also fail to resolve the issue in this way, so we don’t know if that’s actually an effective treatment.

There’s also lots of ways a Vulcan could end up single, not to mention we’ve seen at least two instances of Vulcans rejecting their arranged marriages (T’Pol and T’Pring), so there’s no guarantee any given Vulcan has a mate, despite their customs.

T156,

In the T’Pring case, we also see that sex isn’t the only outlet. A fight to the death is just as effective, with Spock ending up not needing to bed T’Pring, having resolved his Ponn Farr by fighting Kirk.

While the cultural custom is a fight to the death, it is possible that some form of extended, high-stakes physical combat might be enough to relieve things, but Vulcan sensibilities might simply prevent them from choosing that as an option.

qantravon,

This is true, and ultimately fighting is how Vorik’s Pon Farr is resolved as well. So there could also be a Vulcan fight club for those afflicted.

MimicJar, in Vulcan Sex Workers

It seems like a Vulcan Mind Meld can cure just about anything.

In “Flashback” from Voyager Tuvok melds with a close family member, in this case Janeway, to fix his disease.

In “Endgame” from Voyager it is implied that a meld will cure Tuvok’s disease.

In “Sarek” from TNG melding with Picard resolves Sarek’s emotional control.

I would expect rather than a sex industry they have those that specialize in mind melds. Perhaps a specific family member.

Having a backup option would still be logical, so random sex is still on the table.

FfaerieOxide,
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

I would expect rather than a sex industry they have ... a specific family member.

ewwwwww

BobbyNevada,

I see you have broken both of your arms. How illogical…

T156, (edited )

In “Sarek” from TNG melding with Picard resolves Sarek’s emotional control.

In this case, at least, it was less a cure, and more temporarily offloading it to someone else to deal with. Basically the equivalent of Lwaxana affecting the entire Enterprise when she was going through The Phase, or someone with an injured leg leaning on another person to use as a crutch. Except that Sarek was relying on Picard’s emotional processing capabilities.

Presumably his symptoms would return when he ended the psychic connection.

Zorque, in Vulcan Sex Workers

They have meditations they can do with a group of fellow Vulcan's to help suppress the urge in the case of not being able to procreate with their mate. It comes up in Voyager.

magnetosphere, in Vulcan Sex Workers
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That does seem like the simplest, most reliable, most effective solution. We’ve seen things like meditation and medical treatments fail.

ColonelSanders, in Vulcan Sex Workers

I always got the impression that Vulcan society operated similar to traditional Japanese or other societies where couples were “arranged” by families. Not sure about the one off cases though so maybe there is some kind of sex industry given the physiological toll if it’s not addressed in time

qantravon,

It does seem to be primarily on an arranged marriage system, but there are plenty of exceptions. Pairings that don’t come together for some reason, partners that die either due to age or accident, etc.

ColonelSanders,

As I recall on Voyager with a little coaxing Tuvok was able to use the holodeck to get “relief” so I’d imagine the same goes for most vulcans who might be on long away missions

qantravon,

It did work for Tuvok, but not for Vorik, so not a totally effective solution.

T156,

I’m not sure that it is. Voyager likely only went with the holodeck solution because they were stranded in the delta quadrant, and no other alternatives were available.

Within the Federation, a Vulcan who felt the Ponn Farr would take leave, like Spock tried to do, or couples would try to serve on the same ship/station together to minimise issues.

Easyreever, in Vulcan Sex Workers

That is the most logical explanation Captain.

inappropriatecontent, in The Leif Ericson Class Incident

If the Leif Ericson class didn’t exist, how could it be in the handbook??!

Wooster,
@Wooster@startrek.website avatar

Asking the deep questions here.

T’Lyn thinks it may be the result of a temporal wake, while Boimler thinks this should be brought to the attention of the Department of Temporal Investigations.

ValueSubtracted, in The Leif Ericson Class Incident
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The interesting thing about cars like this, in which something is literally erased from reality, is that it’s completely victimless.

One cannot destroy that which never existed to begin with. From that perspective, I’d say Spock made the right call.

Wooster,
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I mean, that’s easy to say, because we’re not attached to the Leif Ericsson class or anyone onboard.

But would the same argument be made if instead it was Bajor, or Kronos that disappeared from existence?

ValueSubtracted,
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Well that’s the thing - something can’t really “disappear from existence,” unless we’re talking about something that did exist and was destroyed.

But if it never existed at all…well, there’s literally nothing lost.

The exception to this would be if Kirk and his crew remembered the Cerritos existing before the time travel shenanigans.

T156, (edited )

But if it never existed at all…well, there’s literally nothing lost.

But from an objective, non-linear perspective, the USS Leif Ericson did exist, before it was erased. A temporal agent with a timeline map would be able to follow the ship across its own personal timeline, until the point where it abruptly ends because the timeline it is currently in caused it to be erased.

It’s similar to the Federation and billions of Borg lives existing and not existing in First Contact, or any of the myriad times the Federation was erased by time travel, and then restored.

ValueSubtracted,
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Even accepting this to be true, Spock sure wouldn’t have any way of knowing, or any reason to care.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Where?

NOPper,

Spock just rolls with time travel ever since he went back, pretended he was his distant cousin, and saved his childhood self from venomous space wolves or whatever that was.

askryan, in Raktajino... has liquor in it?

I’ve seen people suggest adding alcohol, but I think the idea is to simulate that Klingon coffee would have a sharpness or bite to it, rather than assuming that raktajino on the show would actually have alcohol. I played around with some recipes for fun and I actually mixed a few together and found something pretty delicious. I mix Turkish coffee, a small amount of whipped milk, cayenne pepper, cinnamon, and a little honey.

qantravon, in Raktajino... has liquor in it?

That’s very strange, I’ve looked at a few recipes and never seen alcohol as an ingredient. It usually is just coffee with some spices, usually including cinnamon.

ThunderclapSasquatch,

I just assumed it took Mezoamerican influences back and added peppers, Klingons like food that fights back

shnizmuffin, in Raktajino... has liquor in it?
@shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol avatar

An IRL reason: it was a cocktail made with coffee liquor at Star Trek: The Experience in Las Vegas.

OneCardboardBox,

Ah, the Quark approach:

  • Take a drink that costs forty slips of latinum to make
  • Pour it into a novelty glass
  • Add a dash of liquor
  • Charge two strips of latinum for it
princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

What is the Slip to Strip conversion? Is it just 100:1?

OneCardboardBox, (edited )

According to memory alpha wiki:

100 slips = 1 strip

20 strips = 1 bar

There are also bricks, but no known conversation rate exists for that amount.

shnizmuffin,
@shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol avatar

Hold up: I lied. (I realized I was commenting on Daystrom and went to go get a source.)

I was thinking of…

DEANNA TROI’S CHOCOLATE OBSESSION

If there’s one thing that Counselor Troi knows, it’s chocolate. And this is one of her favorite drinks in the galaxy. An empathic concoction of raspberry liqueur, Kahlua, Bailey’s, and chocolate syrup.

Here’s the recipe for Raktajino:

RAKTAJINO

Klingon coffee. A frozen blend of mocha and cappuccino. An honorable drink to prepare any warrior for combat. Qapla!

n3m37h,

Still no prune juice

bradboimler,
@bradboimler@kbin.social avatar

Oh, man, it would've been PERFECT if they sold that. I regret not going when I had the chance.

Sharpiemarker,

Coffee+Prune juice = Emergency teleport to the nearest restroom/holodeck.

Jaccident,

They just beam the poops out!

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

See that’s what I said!

Jaccident,

It’s a popular theory that I first encountered on The Greatest Generation, though I think it must have come up organically many times since the 1960s!

rah, (edited ) in question about "synchronic displacement" in TNG 'Times Arrow'

You won’t be able to make sense of it because the idea is just some nonsense words made up by writers as a means of allowing the story they wanted to tell to be told. It doesn’t make sense because it’s writing, not science.

Edit: fascinated by the downvotes.

williams_482,
@williams_482@startrek.website avatar

As other posters have pointed out to you, blithely dismissing OP’s question because they are asking about the meaning of “nonsense words made up by writers” is completely missing the point of this community. We all know Star Trek is fiction constructed by writers; pointing that out while adding nothing else of interest is both pointless and boring.

We don’t expect or require all answers to be from an in-universe perspective, but we do expect everyone to engage in discussion politely and seriously. If this is all you have to say on the subject, don’t comment.

rah,

we do expect everyone to engage in discussion politely and seriously

My response was both serious and polite. No idea what you’re talking about.

emeralddawn45,

There’s a lot of made up nonsense in star trek, sure, but there’s also a reason they call it ‘science’ fiction. I guess my question had two points. Firstly to see if anyone more knowledgeable than ne could either confirm that it’s nonsense or give me a way that it’s actually potentially possible based on some legitimate scientific theory, or secondly, like the other person said, just to see how people could use their creativity to explain away the inconsistency in universe.

rah,

if anyone more knowledgeable than ne could either confirm that it’s nonsense or give me a way that it’s actually potentially possible based on some legitimate scientific theory

Ah, an actual answer.

Lumidaub,
@Lumidaub@feddit.de avatar

The downvotes are because what you wrote is pointless. We all know it’s made up and in the end there is no actual, definitive, real answer. That’s not what we’re here for. We are here for the creative exercise of finding an answer that fits the universe of the show and episode. You just shut down that creative process.

rah,

We all know it’s made up and in the end there is no actual, definitive, real answer

We are here for the creative exercise of finding an answer that fits the universe of the show and episode.

OP’s question gives the impression that they’re here for an actual answer.

Ensign_Seitler, in question about "synchronic displacement" in TNG 'Times Arrow'

My understanding of the concept was that it was something like multiple channels of data being sent along the same wire. So long as the frequencies are the right kind of different they’ll essentially exist completely independent of each other.

Maybe this requires a minimum of two time dimensions so that the variance can result in the different beings following time along different “tracks”?

I took Troi’s awareness of the beings to be a result of the intermittent overlapping bits of time where they did overlap. Like, it happened too quickly to perceive visually, but enough for the empath to have something to pick up on.

half_built_pyramids, in question about "synchronic displacement" in TNG 'Times Arrow'

Here’s a shot at the balloon filling up with water explanation:

It’s like two cars driving down a highway at night. You see the headlights from the car ahead of you illuminating the scenery, but you never catch up to them.

SatanicNotMessianic, (edited )

I think OP is implying that time works like a film strip, so that if I’m five minutes behind you, I see where you were five minutes ago.

That’s the way time travel in Trek works. If you travel from Time B in the future to Time A in the past at a given place, you see the place as it was at that time, including the people who were there.

I think that rather being just shifted in time a la time travel, they were actually dealing with a flex in spacetime, like a curve in the road you can’t quite see around, but Diana could see their essence like light from the tail lights, as in your example.

In other words, they were caught in a time warp, again.

SpaceNoodle,

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