Who cares? I am fine with the way it is, I am just going to be annoyed with the UI being updated anyways. I am still annoyed by the thunderbird update cause now dark reader takes a second to give me dark mode emails.
Dark reader works? I am using dark background light text and that doesnt work, also some addons are not yet in the Thunderbird store. I can recommend ublock origin with custom *.zip *.mov filters, essential
Thunderbird got better, even though advanced filters are now gone? Not sure when.
But modern Toolkits are important especially for Wayland support
Ok I admit I never thought about using ublock on thunderbird but it sounds interesting, could you explain what advantages it and those filters give? As far as I know TB already blocks some elements within emails for security and privacy purposes
Yes Adblocking is often not needed and may slow down your TB. But people putting filenames with *.mov and *.zip in them would mean you click them and actually open URLs, as these are now registered TLDs. A very stupid idea of Google
I believe Inkscape is still working towards GTK4, but yes they are much farther ahead, to be expected when there are more developers active, after all.
GTK has long outgrown GIMP, it’s much more general purpose now, though the acronym remains. Who knows, maybe it’ll be renamed to GTK Toolkit in full MIT hacker style one day
If I had to guess when GIMP will be native GTK 4 I’d say no sooner than five years, more likely it’ll be 10. By the time GIMP runs on GTK 4 we’ll be working with GTK 5 or 6.
I don't know how long it will take but it should be much much less work now that gnarly UI elements as old as GTK have been replaced with modern toolkit ones.
when single devs can reproduce almost every aspect of Photoshop’s UX, performance, and featureset in projects like photopea.com, I have to have major doubts about whether the GIMP team are doing the right thing by spending years to update the GTK version instead of just rewriting everything from the ground up.
The straw that broke the camel’s back for me was the “3.0 is this year we promise!” post months ago which is increasingly looking like it wasn’t all to be.
Chuck out the technical debt, use a modern language, and build a functional successor without the 90’s baggage. That’s my hot take.
They’ve been completely dropping the ball for years. I used to donate regularly but have completely given up on this project. It’s a farce at this point.
Thankfully I only have simple needs so Krita suffices and I don’t have to deal with the never-improving UX nightmare and never-releasing changes.
Yeah, I’m salty. It’s just that GIMP was a shining star of FOSS and it’s just been slowly rotting from inaction.
They’ve been completely dropping the ball for years. I used to donate regularly but have completely given up on this project. It’s a farce at this point.
Liberapay shows the number of donors has almost doubled in the last few months (look at “view income history”), so i hope it is an indication that they made good changes to the project management and the future will be better.
That’s good to hear, and I really would love for things to get sorted out. Gimp 3.x has many improvements for sure but there’s a long way to go and actually releasing these improvements is necessary…
If gimp can become another blender that would be incredible.
In X11 it’s server side, and in gnome wayland it’s of course client side, but they look exactly the same as the SSD ones. I doubt they’ll change that between the current beta and the 3.x release.
The GTK3 port is done, and now they need to finalize the new extension API and improve their color space support (particularly CMYK). It would be nice if Wayland had a color management protocol extension standardized by then, but I don’t think it’s a blocker.
My favorite part about GIMP is that after the thousands and thousands of hours people have spent developing it, it still can’t compete with software from the 1990s, that is to say, it’s complete shit, they should start from scratch at this point, perhaps aiming low like competing against 1990s MS Paint.
There’s no way they could compete with MS Paint today >_>
L take. I agree it’s behind modern image manipulation software, but it does almost everything that Photoshop did in the early 2010’s at least. It’s considerably better than current-day paint.
I use gimp daily, but it is still far, far behind photoshop from when I was studying and that was pre 2010.
The biggest problem is the UI. The only major improvement was the transition from multi window to single window with tabs, around 2012 or so.
It feels like using a hammer with a purple dildo for a handle. I can do it after 10 years of getting the hang of swinging around the wobbly thing. Meanwile the rest of the world transitioned to battery driven nailguns and I’m still swinging my dilmer with a slightly more rigid handle.
Yeah, it’s painful to use. Like I want to like it, but Photoshop is just a superior product. Just look at what tools professionals use when time is money.
Some harsh comments about GIMP here. I think it’s fantastic. Totally bailed out my workplace when the Adobe Extortion Suite decided break on our machines. I use it at home too and I’m grateful for it.
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