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May, to RedditMigration in Reddit seems to be scrambling behind the scenes to try and limit the effects of the migration. Damage control: ChatGPT bots are spamming pro-admin, astroturfed comments
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Hello i hope you dont mind if i post that post, in case someone does not want to go onto reddit:

r/Save3rdPartyApps
u/attackofmilk

Subreddits are starting to see spam from anti-protest, pro-admin ChatGPT bots
Thread on /r/Pics discussing bot spam. (Pics is now NSFW, but this thread is only profanity / vulgarity.)
/r/pics/comments/14puynz/chatgpt_bots_are_spamming_proadmin_astroturf/

/r/Programming closed (by admins?) after community recognition of bot spam:

Ycombinator thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36361247

Top-voted post from /r/Programming before it closed: https://web.archive.org/web/20230611210834/https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/146wn9s/meta_who_is_astroturfing_rprogramming_and_why/

(I would have just crossposted the top thread directly, but this sub forbids crossposting NSFW posts (which is now everything on /r/Pics )

Calcharger,
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Good idea, thank you

fivezero, to RedditMigration in Reddit seems to be scrambling behind the scenes to try and limit the effects of the migration. Damage control: ChatGPT bots are spamming pro-admin, astroturfed comments
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Looks like r/programming discovered the astroturfing, so in true Reddit fashion they simply shut down the subreddit entirely to avoid the spread of negative public sentiment. Thanks for galvanizing my resolve to migrate to the fediverse, Spez

foggy,

I noticed this happened before the reddit blackouts. I haven’t been to reddit since. Is this a new occurrence of the same ChatGPT astroturfing or is this that same news?

RiikkaTheIcePrincess,
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social avatar

Shut down, you say? Every subreddit should post such truths, you say? Reddit will atomize itself instantly, you say?

Okay, maybe not but it's a fun thought, no?

McBinary,
@McBinary@kbin.social avatar

Wow. Just checked. The newest post in that sub is 3 weeks old.

NumbersCanBeFun,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, after reading this I feel like I made the right choice. I can't believe how quickly Reddit has devolved.

fivezero,
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Agreed. For years I had truly (and naively) believed that Reddit, despite their prior blunders with which we are now all mostly familiar, would maintain an acceptable level of decency and never push things so far as alienate their core userbase. Shot themselves squarely in the foot on this one I think, as their recent changes affect so many.

coyootje,

It feels more like grabbing 2 shotguns and blasting both feet off at the same time. Unless their goal was to sink Reddit at record speed I have no idea what they’re doing…

theangryseal,

What a bummer.

I’m doing ok without it though. I didn’t load old.reddit once today.

I probably won’t tomorrow.

I used to look at Reddit in almost all of my downtime at work. Now I’m trying to write when I see nothing new is coming up on Lemmy.

Still though. 15 years on Reddit. Goddamn. It definitely bums me out. I mean, it’s just a website, but it has helped shape so much of who I am.

I’m an atheist in the Bible Belt for example, and atheism being a default sub back in the day really helped me out a lot.

All things must pass.

Neato,
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I spend my work downtime the 1 day I have to be in office writing dnd campaign material to save my prep time at home.

eleitl,

I’m waiting for my data takeout, so checking old.reddit.com messages once a day. No other engagement beyond that. Lemmy communities are getting really good now.

CmdrModder,

I understand your pain with that last point. Being an atheist teen in a family that highly values religious holidays (and more) is a life experience I hope people don't have to go through.

Things got better, as I hope things are well for you.

Razputinsgirth,

But that's just the dig they did make horrible decisions that fucked Reddit up. But the 3rd party apps fixed most of those problems. Whenever I look at new Reddit it's literally so much harder and spammy to use. For year's now

Hypx,
@Hypx@kbin.social avatar

It's truly amazing. Even people who knew that Reddit was destined to fail someday, wouldn't have predict it happening so fast.

niktemadur,
@niktemadur@kbin.social avatar

Like with Twitter, it's a rapid-fire series of knee-jerk reactions, like a hammer, as in - "When you are a hammer, every problem looks like a nail", destined to get caught, to not fix what you were supposedly trying to fix, to generate deeper and more baffling situations in the process, to fail.

Pons_Aelius,

Most people expect gradual change when many things in life are more like punctuated equilibrium.

Stable state despite gradual change in underlying conditions.

Then rapid change to new stable state.

Entropywins,
@Entropywins@kbin.social avatar

You've now put a fear in me about my life that I wasn't ready for...

Pons_Aelius,

Sorry to do that, but I believe the world makes a lot more sense when viewed through the lens of punctuated equilibrium. It does not make things better, just makes the chaos more understandable.

The dot com bubble.

The housing bubble.

Basically every economic bubble all the way back to tulip mania.

The Arab Spring.

The changes in the USA post 9/11.

And most disturbing of all, the recent rapid swing of pretty much all environmental indicators into uncharted territory. Our biosphere may be heading into a phase of rapid change.

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Nobody wants to change. It's hard and expensive. Until they have to because conditions have required it. Then they change as fast as possible to a new state that works in the new conditions so they can survive.

avenged7fold,

This article felt a little more relevant, recommended by wiki on the one you linked: Punctuated equilibrium in social theory

FaceDeer,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

There's also the Ernest Hemmingway quote from The Sun Also Rises:

“How did you go bankrupt?"

“Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”

ForTheEmperah,
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It's like Rome 😭

BarbecueCowboy,

r/programming was one of the earliest subreddits, I think it was actually #2. Can't view it anymore, but the moderation team of r/programming would have been pretty reddit admin/staff heavy. Pretty sure spez was listed on the moderation team at one point.

abff08f4813c, to RedditMigration in Reddit seems to be scrambling behind the scenes to try and limit the effects of the migration. Damage control: ChatGPT bots are spamming pro-admin, astroturfed comments
man_in_space, to RedditMigration in Reddit seems to be scrambling behind the scenes to try and limit the effects of the migration. Damage control: ChatGPT bots are spamming pro-admin, astroturfed comments
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Reddit has died and its corpse has been fitted over an automaton.

fivezero,
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And the beautiful irony is that in their mission to secure an increased IPO valuation they merely reduced it substantially. Gonna need some more popcorn as we watch them burn it to the ground

man_in_space,
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Nineveh was once the largest city in the world…and now it is ruins. So it goes.

RoboRay,
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Weekend at Spez's

Pons_Aelius, (edited ) to RedditMigration in Reddit seems to be scrambling behind the scenes to try and limit the effects of the migration. Damage control: ChatGPT bots are spamming pro-admin, astroturfed comments

The perfect site for reddit admins would be endless bots posting, commenting and viewing adds while said advertisers are oblivious to the con.

The first two have been going on at some level for years. The last? Well, it will be interesting to see the official reddit app's adoption numbers in the coming months.

NotMyOldRedditName,

That's also a fantastic way to end up in jail, which I wouldn't be opposed to spez getting familiar with

man_in_space,
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Reddit…it was once my respite, and now it is a desert of empty words. The admins betrayed their creed: “Remember the human”. They sold it for the Dollar Almighty. Their humanity is lost…let them succumb to that which they so infinitely prize—the towers they built out of their money.

Nepenthe,
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That won't go well either, in the long run. Advertisers will catch on to how many "people" are viewing their ads without ever clicking on anything and put their funds elsewhere.

AnAnxiousCorgi,
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Just gotta make it look good for the IPO, then what does Spez care?

Lamy, to RedditMigration in Never Forget

Never forgive.

foggy, to RedditMigration in I can't cancel Reddit Premium

Just call your credit card company and say that you do not authorize any further transactions with them, and any that are attempted are illegitimate.

That’s what creditors are literally for.

egrets, to RedditMigration in Never Forget

Beatings will continue until morale improves.

abff08f4813c, to RedditMigration in Reddit seems to be scrambling behind the scenes to try and limit the effects of the migration. Damage control: ChatGPT bots are spamming pro-admin, astroturfed comments

Jeez man ... +1 to this person! https://teddit.adminforge.de/r/pics/comments/14puynz/chatgpt_bots_are_spamming_proadmin_astroturf/jql4cka/#c

(After r/programming went private, they sent the u/ModCodeOfConduct modmail to the mods of r/programming - which is modded by reddit admins.)

abff08f4813c, (edited )

I guess that message worked as the sub reopened. /s

imaqtpie, to RedditMigration in Reddit seems to be scrambling behind the scenes to try and limit the effects of the migration. Damage control: ChatGPT bots are spamming pro-admin, astroturfed comments

PSA regarding federation (copied from previous comment)

I also want to continue spreading the word about federation issues. I've been on Lemmy for a month now and it's going great. But that whole time, it's essentially been impossible to comment on kbin magazines. The comments simply don't show up. I'm not seeing most of your comments when browsing here from Lemmy, but I am seeing Lemmy comments.

I obviously have this account, but its annoying to keep switching between accounts, plus I haven't really gotten the hang of the kbin interface yet.

Point being, I suspect much of the sluggishness of organic growth is not due to a small userbase, but rather due to the fact nobody can actually find the threads and comment on them efficiently. We need to remain steadfast and trust that the developers will fix this stuff up soon. I really feel that simply making Lemmy and kbin federate perfectly would immediately make this platform 10 times more active. We have plenty of people but right now we are fragmented into parallel communities. This isn't even getting into the server overload at a number of Lemmy instances.

I just don't want people to write off the platform before we can see how it's actually meant to work. I've seen a ton of brilliant comments on kbin and I haven't even had the chance to really mix it up with you guys yet.

Here was the Lemmy post about this story that somebody actually posted here a couple days before this thread. But it doesn't show up here and none of you can see it.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/706681

I really don't want people to get discouraged by this bug because it's very disconcerting when you make a high value comment or post and the response is crickets. Its not because the platform is empty, it's because federation is fucked and your post is invisible to everyone not on your local server.

Patrizsche, to RedditMigration in Reddit seems to be scrambling behind the scenes to try and limit the effects of the migration. Damage control: ChatGPT bots are spamming pro-admin, astroturfed comments

What’s astroturfing?

nosut,
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A campaign by a marketing team to give the false impression of something.

In this case it’s a campaign by reddit to make it look like there are lots of users who are in agreement with reddit instead of the truth where it’s universally hated.

Paesan,
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It's a play on the term "grass root movement". A grass root movement is one that starts with the people at the bottom, not at the top. So if a bunch of people got together (mostly independent of each other) to promote or protest something, that is a "grass roots" action.

Astroturf is basically fake grass, so "astroturfing" is something that is made to look like a "grass roots" movement but it isn't.

NOT_RICK, to RedditMigration in I can't cancel Reddit Premium
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Did you subscribe through Apple’s app store or the Google play store? If you did I think you need to cancel it through the subscription pages of those apps.

cosmicrookie,
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Honestly I don’t remember, but its a good guess. I only have access to Android, and the Reddit subscription is not there. Also checked Paypal, but nothing there either. Still i’d expect the reddit profile to be of more help about this. I’ve had to make a support ticket to ask them, but I don’t even know when or where I’ll get an answer from them

Uprise42,

When you are charged for premium, what does the charge show as on your account? Cause when I pay for a subscription through Apple, it is Apple that charges my bank and my receipt tells me why. I would imagine it would be the same with other providers so knowing who is charging your bank account will tell you where the charge is coming from

quirzle,
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Curious. I'm reasonably sure the option should be either in the settings right where you took that screen shot or under the subscriptions section in the Google Play app store.

Any chance you've got multiple Google accounts?

DarkThoughts, to RedditMigration in Reddit seems to be scrambling behind the scenes to try and limit the effects of the migration. Damage control: ChatGPT bots are spamming pro-admin, astroturfed comments

At least ChatGPT is a more polite than the toxic, racist & sexist shit that remains on Reddit. Scrolled through /r/all this morning and was appalled by some of the toxic comments in the various submissions. I also noticed some sockpuppets somehow spewing the same bullshit opinion about certain topics, using the literal same type of phrasing too, just in different comment chains and with different accounts.

Honestly, probably better for my blood pressure to stay away from most of it.

mysoulishome, to RedditMigration in Never Forget
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How the fuck is he a CEO. So fucking stupid.

Timwi,
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He's a CEO precisely because he does things like this. CEOs are selected for maximum profitability at the detriment of literally everything else. That's also why psychopathy is way more widespread among CEOs than the general population.

SpicyPeaSoup, to RedditMigration in Never Forget
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"If you think the API changes are bad, just wait and see what else we have in store."

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