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UnfortunateShort, to memes in Deal or no deal?

I’ve been wondering this, but never really looked into the matter: Is spaying/neutering really an ethical thing to do? Doesn’t it affect cats in some negative way, besides taking away their ability to reproduce?

I’ve been thinking about adopting cats, which would be sterile anyway, but it doesn’t exactly seem like a nice thing to do if you can avoid it : \

chocobo13z,

I can’t imagine removing a healthy part of the endocrine system has good results in the long term. If it’s an option, perhaps an ovarian preserving spay, or a vasectomy, would be in order. Though not many vets in the US offer such procedures. If only we could be more like Germany…

AdlachGyfiawn,
@AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Not particularly. Male cats get sleepier but overall I haven’t found behavior changes much.

On the other hand, imagine being horny all the time with no thumbs to masturbate

TacoNissan,

Before I got my cat fixed, he would suck his own dick

MrsDoyle,

I was adopted by a stray kitten and had her spayed when she was old enough. A friend told me I had taken away her “choice” to reproduce. I asked her how many of my cat’s hypothetical offspring she was willing to adopt - there would be I guess an annual litter of four or more to choose from. Yeah no.

In the end I moved countries and gave the cat away. I would never have another one, nice as she was. There’s a family of voles living in my garden, half a dozen frogs in the pond and lots of birds visit my trees. I support them mainly by leaving them to go about their business.

TORFdot0,

It reduces suffering of potential unwanted offspring and the suffering of local bird populations so I would argue that it’s unethical to not spay or neuter your cat, even if the individual cat suffers a bit from it.

I think there is an interesting argument on whether it’s ethical to keep pets at all however

JohnDClay,

Even if you don’t let your cat outside?

angrystego,

I had an indoor female cat that I left unfixed. In about three years of getting into heat without getting pregnant, her hormones went wild. She was in constant heat, losing weight, getting gland flare-ups and other serious health problems. In the end I had to have her fixed to save her. If I did it in the beginning, it would have been much less suffering for her.

TORFdot0,

#1 Pets are like teenagers, they are gonna try to have sex without you knowing.

#2 I don’t think it’s healthy or ethical to keep an animal indoors 24/7. Even pet animals need unstructured (not unsupervised) time outside to have play and use their instinct beyond just taking them for a walk. I’d apply that equal to dogs and cats although it’s probably more important for dogs.

JohnDClay,

Would you propose waking on a leash then? We don’t want the cat to kill everything around. We walk our dog a lot, but not our cat. Maybe we should.

TORFdot0,

An open area where he can run around is probably best. Depends on where you live and your cat’s preferences. I’ve heard of cats that have no desire to leave the house and others that will dart out the door at any opportunity. If you have an apartment or no fence in the back yard then it’s not a great option. Some cats do like to walk, our neighbors’ cat usually joins us on our nightly walks through the neighborhood. Off a leash of course.

1847953620,

I’ll consider that argument once we have a healthier society. Until then, I need my cat to make it, and my cat seems pretty damn fond of me.

Sirence,

Is it ethical to “adopt” a cat? My cat lives a good life, she is old and healthy and well feed, never having to worry about anything. But it is ethical to own another living being, even if you offer it the best possible life it can have in return? I really don’t know.
But if you do adopt a cat, I think you need to do everything that ensures the cat has a healthy life, like getting shots and check ups etc. Neutering the cat is also an important part of keeping it healthy. After all, it greatly reduces the risk of either gender getting cancer in their reproductive organs and a lot of other issues.

bigboismith, to memes in Deal or no deal?

*Munch

Martineski, to memes in Is this how Sealand was formed too?
@Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I don’t get it but I like it.

xusontha,

It’s a joke about the Netherlands claiming land from the sea

Martineski,
@Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Ah, it makes it even funnier. Here’s a heart: ❤️

xusontha,
stebo02,
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

but what does “gib clay” mean?

Firipu,
@Firipu@startrek.website avatar

“give clay”. The Dutch wanted to have clay for their world famous clay baths…

xusontha,

Give land/territory

devfuuu,

After rereading multiple times to understand it, i think it means the small blob wanted land so “give clay”, the other big bullies didn’t want to contribute, so started taking from the sea.

Pfosten,

In the language of Polandball comics, it means “give land/territory”.

“Gib” is taken from the German imperative for “give!”

Best theory is that “clay” as “land” originates from a bad machine translation.

It seems somene created a Wiki that covers these terms: www.polandballwiki.com/wiki/Terminology#Clay

deus, to memes in Is this how Sealand was formed too?

Love me some Polandball.

EtherealMoon,
@EtherealMoon@lemmy.world avatar

One of the few subs I actually miss.

EditsHisComments,

This type of dialog always reminds me of Toki Wartooth’s way of speaking

xusontha,

I wish there was more of it lol

kWazt, to memes in Is this how Sealand was formed too?

Sealand was always there, but Flevoland was made this way. God created earth, but the Dutch, blablabla.

xusontha,

The bible said god created earth but the Dutch made earth and cheese so the Dutch are more powerful than god

Aagje_D_Vogel,

I’m Dutch, can confirm. We used to pick on God in primary school for His lack of cheese during lunch. He was such a Chump back then. Amen.

Clanket,

Dutch cheese is delicious. A dangerous game having any near you while stoned though. The last time I bought a wheel to bring home as a present for someone, it didn’t make it out of the hotel, never mind home to Ireland.

Comment105,

A WHEEL???

Clanket,

I’m not sure if that’s the technical term, but yes, a wheel of cheese.

HerbalGamer,

That’s a lot of cheese.

far_university1990, to memes in Is this how Sealand was formed too?

𝕯𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖊 𝕶𝖔𝖒𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖘𝖊𝖐𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖎𝖘𝖙 𝖓𝖚𝖓 𝕰𝖎𝖌𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖚𝖒 𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝕭𝖚𝖓𝖉𝖊𝖘𝖗𝖊𝖕𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖎𝖐 𝕯𝖊𝖚𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖉

xusontha,
cows_are_underrated,

Ich sehe, du hast mein kopiertes gut weise verwendet

far_university1990,

Selbstverständlich

Comment105,

Nei! Jeg protesterer!

a skiing norwegian with a machinegun is rapidly decending the hill towards you. roll for initiative

xusontha,
Omega_Haxors, to memes in Is this how Sealand was formed too?

Nazi meme format.

mypasswordistaco,
@mypasswordistaco@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

???

Wutchilli,

Do you care to explain why the country/polandball meme format is a nazi meme format?

xusontha, (edited )

Oh great it’s you again

regardless of the absurdity of what you’re saying, do you even know what nazis are? I’m not sure cuz you said this:

Nazism was basically just liberalism taken to its conclusion. Rich people get to live in comfort as poor people die in a mass genocide. (lemmy.ml/comment/4865175)

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

Yes it me again, and I’m going to continue calling out problematic shit when I see it. Silencing tactics don’t work on me because i’m morally in the right and know it. This combined with your reaction to my other post proves that your siding with nazism goes more than passive and i’m not going to just sit around and watch as you influence the culture of Lemmy towards fascism.

xusontha,

silencing tactics

what like using evidence and calling you out when you’re wrong?

siding with nazism… influence the culture of Lemmy towards facism

bro are you high all I do is post Star Trek memes which is like the OPPOSITE side of the political spectrum

also your argument about the polandball supporting nazis first doesnt make sense secondly you’re doing the same thing but with tankies by advocating for the .ml instance

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

Yes I am, because unlike your genocidal ideology, the “tankies” are actually on the right side of history.

Anticommunism is indistinguishable from profascism.

Comment105,

What the fuck is wrong with you? “tankies are on the right side of history”? Grab a shotgun and blow your face off.

xusontha,

I… don’t even know what to say to this it’s so wrong

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

Nah it’s not wrong, you’re just a fascist. Go post your fash shit on a different instance. I set up here specifically to get away from that.

xusontha,

If you say things that aren’t facist are facist then I don’t think you can ever get away from facism

Omega_Haxors,

I looked more into it and it’s even worse than I originally knew about. Jesus fucking Christ. Yep i’m out.

xusontha,

At this point you’re just baiting cuz you have nothing to argue

accideath,

What the fuck happened here?

xusontha,

Pretty much just read this thread and this one

zazaserty,
@zazaserty@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Are you okay? You look like you need some help…

sour,
@sour@kbin.social avatar

tankie: red fascist

AI_toothbrush,

They didnt even mention communism. Tankies are a totally different thing. I dont care if you think communism is a good economical system what i care about is that you support regimes killed millions of innocent people some of which were my family because they lived in the soviet union. Fuck the soviet union fuck the chinese communist party and fuck tankies. All tankies are delusional. There was no equality in that shithole called the soviet union. I dont ususally namecall and try to be politically correct but i cant be when someone supports something so vile and evil.

Omega_Haxors,

Let me guess, they took your slaves?

AI_toothbrush,

What are you even talking about? I feel like you live in your own little bubble. I know people whos family members got shipped to work camps because they harvested theyre own crops because they were dying from starvation. And nobody had slaves in eastern europe for a very long time. The onlg slaves in modern times were the poor people who worked all day for nothing in a dictatorship. Im not saying todays america is much better for example but in europe a lot of places are much better.

HerbalGamer,

hey so fellow tankie here…

why is this a nazi meme? genuinely confused.

Omega_Haxors,

You seriously think i’m going to fall for that…?

HerbalGamer,

Sorry, you can privately message me if that makes you more comfortable.

cows_are_underrated,

Bro, I have read enough about Nazis and even spoke with people who lived during this time. That’s devinetly not a Nazi meme. If you think this is a Nazi meme than explain me how taking land from the sea is the same as killing 6 millions Jews, millions of ost European civilians, conquering the entirety of Europe and building a terror based dictatorship?

Comment105,

“Morally in the right” says the communist and moral relativist with a penchant for arranged marriages and ridiculously stupid trials of manhood.

TvanBuuren,

Tell me please how this is a nazi meme format.

pewgar_seemsimandroid, to memes in Is this how Sealand was formed too?

YESSSSS COUNTRYBALLS

sagrotan, to memes in Is this how Sealand was formed too?
@sagrotan@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks to the last few generations the sea will taketh back what was giveth from her.

xusontha,

Just curious what happened

Edit: you mean global warming don’t you I’m dumb lol

shasta, to memes in Is this how Sealand was formed too?

What about New Sealand?

xusontha,

What is New Sealand?

shasta,

The country next to Austria

HerbalGamer,

oida wo oft

GustavoM, to comicstrips in You can never have too many cats
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

…until they start to leave “gifts” on your doorstep.

xusontha,

we don’t talk about the “gifts”

GreenMario, to comicstrips in You can never have too many cats

Actually yes. Yes you can.

A friend of mine’s mom was a hoarder of cats. Had over 10 of em. You could smell em from the curb in front of the house.

xusontha,

10 is more than too many, I’ll admit

GustavoM, to comicstrips in He found the Oracle
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

“Eh… isn’t that obvious eno— bleh.”

“Wait…there is something else written in it.”

“You will drop this fortune after you are done reading.”

“…”

“Damn.”

xusontha,

Then under that it says “you will pick this up again and look at it closer”

TimeSquirrel, to comicstrips in He found the Oracle
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  • xusontha,

    I wish I could do that lol

    Sounds so cozy

    DancingIsForbidden,
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    fruity cereal, eww gross. cocoa puffs gang, assemble!

    xusontha,

    Just like both smh

    setsneedtofeed, to starwarsmemes in He smells PROFIT, and quite a bit of it [MW]
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    The smell of Donkey Sauce is the herald of the end

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