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krolden, to linux in Why Are Arch Linux Users So TOXIC?
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

Why is YouTube clickbait so cringe?

sirico, to linux in Why Are Arch Linux Users So TOXIC?
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Imagine giving a shit about what strangers use on their own computers

CAPSLOCKFTW, to linux in Why Are Arch Linux Users So TOXIC?

So I’m an Arch user since 2013 and I don’t think I’m toxic. I am not really offended by this post but a bit worried. Why this hate against Arch (users)? I use Arch, btw is a meme that may has some truth, but like every good meme it is exaggerated. Arch users may have some pride in tunning Arch but most of the time they’re (in my expierence) helpful and inclusive. The OS itself fits right to my expectations: community driven, pragmatic, highly customizable. And I think the community is doing a lot for the overall Linux community with the Arch Wiki and for the Arch-based family with the AUR.

Edit: I didn’t seek help in the Arch fotum myself but read some threads there. Haven’t encountered any bm there.

Kristof12, to linux in Why Are Arch Linux Users So TOXIC?
@Kristof12@lemmy.ml avatar

Cringe lmao

jopepa, to mildlyinteresting in Nanobot Carry Lazy Sperm to Fertilize Living Eggs

That baby is still dizzy

Dum, to mildlyinteresting in Nanobot Carry Lazy Sperm to Fertilize Living Eggs

This is clearly a case of “just because we can doesn’t mean we should”. Sounds like a really bad idea to create life from sperm that doesn’t even move. Some people are just not meant to have kids and should come to terms with it instead of passing their own problems on to the next generation. I think it’s selfish. Also it’s not like there aren’t enough people already, adopt and give a good life to a healthy child that otherwise wouldn’t have a future.

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

I actually find the nanobot something crazy. Regarding the “artificial insemination” question, I guess only those having such problems should speak. Just like the abortion question.

Observer1199,

That’s the same as saying only those with lots of money should be able to speak about how to manage wealth because poor people don’t have experience doing so.

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

Mmm, we’re not talking about money but personal choices. Do you want me to criticize your life ? Tell me about it and I’ll do if you like

StormNinjaPenguin,

Nobody should be criticised for being infertile because it is not a personal choice.

Easing evolutionary pressure on a species should not be a personal choice and must be criticised.

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

So pls stop taking any medicine, nature decided you should die earlier without any cure. It shouldn’t be a personal choice to stay alive according to your view. Com’on

StormNinjaPenguin,

You can’t equate a treatment that restores correct operation of an individual to one that potentially increases infertility in the population.

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

You’re sperm might be slow just because you’re a bit old, you know ? Now you’ll say you don’t have to have children if you’re old, right?

Dum,

Oh yeah it’s really crazy impressive, from a technology pov this is amazing.

I concede I’m neither a biologist nor a doctor, and if lazy sperm is not genetic, respectively if children born from this would lead a completely normal life: awesome. I just think knowingly passing on serious disabilities with a high chance to a new generation is something that should be avoided, specifically because you can’t ask the people affected, which is the children born. In the end, it’s just my ignorant weird feeling from what looks like Frankensteining together something that seems dead to create new life.

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

Well, if i had to follow that kind of belief, we should avoid old people (either man or woman) to have children because sperm from old man is not that good, regarding eggs we all well know the problems occurring with aging. But people smoke, drink, do stupid things and so on. So, if those are small cases I guess it’s fine. We’re having problems in case that becomes the standard way of having babies. However, we’re experiencing a wave of women who wants to go back in time andd have babies without even going to the hospitals, so maybe things will fall into place naturally, in the end they are those who decide

CADmonkey, to mildlyinteresting in Nanobot Carry Lazy Sperm to Fertilize Living Eggs

Are they trying to make someone even lazier than me?

innermeerkat, to mildlyinteresting in Nanobot Carry Lazy Sperm to Fertilize Living Eggs
@innermeerkat@lemmy.world avatar

Spermatozoid that couldn’t be able to fertilise in a natural way. For sure it won’t create any disease or incapacitated newborns, won’t it?

ch00f,

The sperm is not a self-reproducing cell. The chromosomes it carries are not used to make it.

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

That could happen anyway unless you follow the eugenics path, but that’s a completely different story. These nanobots should be seen more like a prosthesis probably, or a walker

ef9357, to mildlyinteresting in Nanobot Carry Lazy Sperm to Fertilize Living Eggs

Lazy sperm? Yeah, that sounds great for the next generation.

atlasraven31, to linux in Fuck it, give me your most OVERRATED Distros

Arch is for sweaty fanboy memes, not workflow

notfromhere,

Yea nobody would ever use Arch for the basis of anything game changing coughSteamOScough

nerdschleife, to linux in Fuck it, give me your most OVERRATED Distros

Manjaro. It just breaks itself randomly, and performs poorly. Endeavour / ARCO Linux are more stable

Zucca,

Wasn’t Manjaro supposed to be the stable version of Arch? That’s what I’ve heard.

The few years I had with Arch was pretty nice, but when something broke, it was pain to get it back working because downgrading wasn’t (isn’t?) supported. I guess I should have used snapshots of my whole system back then.

turkalino, to linux in Fuck it, give me your most OVERRATED Distros
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

Arch

  • Being 64-bit doesn’t make you special, my Nintendo 64 is 27 yrs old and it’s 64-bit
  • Being bleeding edge doesn’t make you special, all I have to do is sit on a nail and now I’m bleeding edge too
  • Rolling releases don’t make you special, anyone can have those if they take a shit on a steep slope

/s (was hoping we’d be able to leave this behind on reddit, but alas, people’s sense of humor…)

polygon,
@polygon@kbin.social avatar

I know you're making a joke but I was convinced recently to try out Arch. I'm running it right now. I was told it's a DIY distro for advanced users and you really have to know what you're doing, etc etc. I had the system up and running in 20 minutes, and about an hour to copy my backup to /home and configure a few things. I coped the various pacman commands to a text file to use as a cheat sheet until muscle memory kicked in.

..and that was it. What is so advanced about Arch? It's literally the same as every other distro. "pacman -Syu" is no different from "zypper dup" in Tumbleweed. I don't get the hype. I mean it's fine. I don't have any overwhelming desire to use something else at the moment because it's annoying to change distros. It's working and everything is fine. As I would expect it to be. But people talk about Arch like its something to be proud of? I guess the relentless "arch btw" attitude made me think it would be something special.

I guess the install is hard for some people? But you just create some partitions, install a boot loader, and then an automated system installs your DE. That's DIY? You want DIY go install NixOS or Void, or hell, go OG with Slackware. Arch is way overrated. That doesn't mean it's bad, but it's just Linux and it's no different from anything else. KDE is KDE no matter who packages it.

jollyrogue, to linux in Fuck it, give me your most OVERRATED Distros

My list overrated list additions:

  • Ubuntu: They break shit, it’s half baked, snaps, and Canonical is really into vendor lock in.
  • Arch: I really have better things to do then baby sit my install.
  • RHEL: Containers were created for reasons, and one of them was RHEL.
  • Any Linux without systemd or glibc: Mistakes were made, and then different mistakes were made trying to prove systemd made mistakes. Musl based Linux distros are going to have compatibility problems, so I might as well run a different OS. The BSDs are *nix-like systems without glibc with a history and larger communities.
notfromhere,

Having gone through the Arch install myself, what part dod you find you had to babysit? Boot the install media, format the drive, mount the mounts, install system, configure the system, and done. Maybe it’s just a more involved process than you’d like?

corsicanguppy, to linux in Fuck it, give me your most OVERRATED Distros

AH, so this is a “tell me your favourite distro” post again. Tribalism isn’t cool, man.

Nefyedardu, to linux in Fuck it, give me your most OVERRATED Distros

I realized Arch was overrated when I got a brand new 7900 XT and it didn't work on Arch at all because their LLVM was a version behind. It was up-to-date on Fedora and even Ubuntu, but not Arch. Then there was the whole broken grub thing. Bleeding edge and unstable I get, but you can't be unstable and also behind. You can run Arch in any distro with distrobox, I don't see why you wouldn't just do that.

Ubuntu has ads in the terminal when you update. Runs a highly modified GNOME that doesn't play well with some extensions. Snaps by default (although maybe not that bad now that they seem to launch a bit quicker). Unfortunately so many things only have Ubuntu support if they have Linux support at all, it's such a shame.

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

LLVM was held back for a good reason, it was breaking things left and right. Even so, if you really needed it there were always AUR packages for it, or lcarlier’s mesa-git repo if you prefer prebuilt packages, so it’s not as if you were just SOL. I got my 7900XT in december, and instructions on how to get it running were already all over the forums and subreddit at the time and it was working on the same day that I got it.

I don’t know when you got your 7900XT, but it was broken on Ubuntu too for a good while, I’m not even sure that it currently works on 22.04 without using external PPAs. In the mean time, it now works with Arch out of the box.

As for the grub thing, I’m not sure how that could have been handled differently. Upstream introduced a change that created a compatibility issue, so Arch could either not update to a newer version of grub ever, or update anyway and tell its users how to handle the compatibility issue. The latter is what they did.

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