uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

We don’t have a consistent convention as to what changes qualify for a version increment rather than update increment. A new kernel? A new interface convention? New icons for the mini-apps?

Windows 10 has more plug-and-play drivers than Win7 and Win8. It can recognize newer hardware and it can be installed natively from thumb drives. So a lot of features that were third party are now offical… long after I had access to the third-party libraries.

But then it combines the metro and the start menu. I never found a use for the metro.

Win11 is less operability and more DRM and more spyware.

For Apple and Microsoft, a new version is a new marketing season. It’s the same as the new iPhone, the new Subaru.

I assume Linux builds increment with significant operability additions, especially if they’re not fully backwards compatible. Since they’re released without charge the capacity to do more stuff is the only reason to upgrade to a new increment rather than preserving a stable version.

state_electrician,

You are taking this dumb joke way too seriously.

uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I get that a lot.

redcalcium, (edited )

The version number will be incremented when Linus says so. He might even increment it to 7.x tomorrow if he feels like it.

uriel238, (edited )
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Which only adds bas relief to the point. Linus has no personal or commercial motivation to get people to get the hot new trendy thing. Linux isn’t motivated by built-in obsolescence the way Windows and iOS are.

In fact, their higher iteration indicators are a symptom of a disadvantage of the operating system, not an advantage.

Samsy,

If people really get triggered by this bullshit graph, let’s add Arch Linux which is on what? >200? >300?

aBundleOfFerrets,

Arch doesn’t have a global version

Samsy,

I know but if I remember correctly there is a version tag at boot, 230 or something was the last I’ve seen.

aBundleOfFerrets,

I think that is the version for the archiso build, and I don’t think it should be used as a version for the OS

fallingcats, (edited )

Clearly the current version is 2024.01.01

Current Release: 2024.01.01
Included Kernel: 6.6.8
ISO Size: 883.3 MB

aBundleOfFerrets,

Well shit I guess we win then

xantoxis,

well, 23 years ago this graph would have had windows 2000 WAY in the lead.

replicat,

Anime PFP leads me to believe OP uses arch btw.

duncesplayed,

Isn’t it Mac OS X 14? I.e., Mac OS 10.14?

dizzy,
@dizzy@lemmy.ml avatar

No they ditched OSX and yearly point updates in 2020 and went from Mac OSX 10.15.7 to MacOS 11.0

The next yearly release was MacOS 12.

It’s now up to 14.2.1

duncesplayed,

Ah thanks for that! You can tell how long it’s been since I’ve used Mac OS.

sfxrlz,

Do you know why?

Korne127,
@Korne127@lemmy.world avatar

Actually yeah

In 2000, Steve Jobs announced Mac OS X as the operating system for the next 20 years. So they kept the version for 20 years and well… in 2020 they started to make the yearly updates be major version number updates again (instead of minor version numbers).

Also @dizzy

dizzy,
@dizzy@lemmy.ml avatar

Probably just wanted a higher number than windows or didn’t want to get leapfrogged. Also makes more sense with iOS having a similar schedule.

JokeDeity, (edited )

14 versions and they still haven’t got it right? SMH.

1984, (edited )
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah all I see is 14 huge failures. :)

Linux version 6 is a bit of a stretch though since it’s just the kernel. I guess they could have put Ubuntu 23 up there to make it “win”…

jalda,

Fedora 39 is clearly superior to Ubuntu 23

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I guess. I had lots of issues with Fedora in the past so can’t recommend it personally but some people like it.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m going to invoke Poe’s Law and not assume this is sarcasm.

CallumWells,

Is that that thing where someone says something wrong to get the right answer explained to them?

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No, that’s the thing where somebody Googles the result and gets the right answer.

WolfhoundRO, (edited )

You people be bringing Linux distro versions, which are indeed double digits, but the graph really be showing the Linux kernel version, not the distros. And Linux kernel version is indeed 6.7 at the time of writing this

UncleBadTouch,
@UncleBadTouch@lemmy.ca avatar

but wouldnt lower numbers mean no one needed to fix & revamp a working OS?

higher numbers mean more fuckups than needed to be fixed until it was so broken there was no longer a way to code you way out, had to start right from the start!

AVincentInSpace,

no it just means the OS is abandoned obviously, don’t you know that any library with no commits in the last 20 minutes is not worth using /s

lorty,
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

It really depends on what versioning means for the project. If we are talking about semantic versioning then a lower number only means there haven’t been many breaking changes over time. Or that a lot of broken stuff has been kept that way because it would break compatibility.

Spoonbit,

Linux just moved out of 5.x.x hell. Well catch up soon

Dirk,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar
iAvicenna,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

who the fuck made this horrible graphic? when will people realize that grossly redundant features that also complicate interpretation (such as trying to make a bar plot 3d) is absolutely one of the worst things you can do.

v4ld1z,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

Isn’t this kind of the point of the graph?

iAvicenna,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

When used correctly the point of the graph is to make use of the fact that humans are super fast at visual convolution tasks but not so great at doing mental statistics. If your graph makes the interpretation of complicated statistical facts immediate for the viewer (and as faithful to the facts as possible, whatever that means) then it has achieved its purpose.

v4ld1z,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

I get that, I know what a graph is, but this is clearly meant as a meme, hence the lacking axis descriptions and scale, and the 3d rendering. It’s literally just a meme

iAvicenna,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

hmm I thought it was a meme built on top of a real graph

abeltramo,
@abeltramo@lemmy.world avatar

Wooosh

mariusafa,

This plot is so stupid it’s like comparing oranges to chairs. If they wanted to compare Kernels then compare Linux with XNU and Windows NT.

Didn’t know XNU and Windows NT are hybrid kernels, interesting.

SapphironZA,

It’s also a reflection of how much money you will be spending on each ecosystem

risencode,

Aren’t there meme communities where you could put this instead?

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

My version is 20240107. Apple has some catching up to do.

toastal,

Imagine someone thinking 07012024 would be a better scheme 😂

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