This is clearly humor, but for anyone wondering what the actual connection is, it’s that Mark Shuttleworth, the billionaire founder and CEO of Canonical (the company that maintains Ubuntu), is from South Africa. He liked the word, and decided to name his new Debian fork after it.
I’m a Mint Cinnamon user, and to me, Mint Cinnamon is a typical drip machine with a built in timer and some nice extra features. It’s a bit fancier than Debian but still simple and reliable to use.
I really like it, and I miss it on Linux. On Linux, I have to trust that each and every sh/bash script, package install script, or some stuff you download from internet are actually safe and don’t access your private stuff. On mac I get the prompt when some software needs to access a specific folder.
Ok, it’s true that you have to spend 15 mins after setting up to “install developer tools”, and remove some safety rails. However, the mac doesn’t prevent you from doing that, and doesn’t really even try to make it hard (if you’ve ever touched a terminal before). Once it’s set up, you’re good to go…
Depends on what you are doing. My company was using clang for c++ compilation and it was a drag to make all this clicks for each .so every is update. And there is no way to automate the process. And those occasional compatibility breaks didn’t help either.
what do you mean? clang is a command line tool, can’t you write some cmake and a bash script to automate the build process? That’s what I always do when I writing any C++ that needs to be compiled/updated fairly regularly.
It has nothing to do with clang being command line. It consists of many binaries, all of them untrusted. Any time new dynamic lib is loaded Mac stops the process and complains. Then you need to do manual stuff, as you can’t automatically trust a binary, for obvious reasons. This happened almost two years ago, maybe clang got apple certificates or some shit to combat the issue. But my point was that every OS update on Mac brings annoying issues for developers.
I have to admit, I’ve never touched the kind of issue where I need to load a bunch of binaries I can’t automatically trust as part of a build process, so I won’t speak on that.
On the part about OS updates being a PITA, yes: I’ll admit that I offset updating the macOS major version for as long as possible. As long as my major version is maintained/get’s security updates, and the newer versions are backwards compatible enough that I can compile stuff for them without any hassle, I’ll stay on macOS 13. Judging by historical data, that means I have about two more years before I might need to spend an hour or two fixing up stuff that bugs out with the eventual major update.
This needs a coffee siphon as well, might even fit gentoo better than the espresso maker. harder to set up, takes longer but it’s different from what everyone else is using ;) great coffee, too
If you’ve used an espresso machine you will know that every single small change, even new fresh beans, fucks up the setup and you have to dial everything again, so I think it fits better with another one. I use arch btw.
I find ASCII incredibly readable honestly. I use pixel fonts too, but I love the sharp blocky characters it’s so much easier on the eyes than whatever windows or iOS has going on by default
Not really relevant, but as a kid I though the “II” part of ASCII was roman numerals. I was all the way to graduate school before my prof literally on the floor laughing because I had said “asskey two” set me straight.
I know a lot of people like macOS, and I’m sure they get a lot done with it. For me however, it’s easily my least favorite popular OS. That’s even considering the terminal running zsh by default, which is miles ahead of Windows.
A quirk that recently bit us at work is that Safari has a maximum allowed version based off your OS version. Now if it was just me as a user, I’d download a 3rd party browser. However, as a developer, I have to build solutions that work for every “reasonable” browser. This means I can’t use features that every modern browser has, including Safari, because Safari from 4 years ago didn’t have it.
This used to be the case with IE. you’re always going to have to support at least one legacy browser.that’s one of the few real benefits of everyone moving to chromium based browsers.
Yeah, thankfully I never had to develop with IE in mind. Though I have heard a lot of people dislike it for that reason.
You’re totally right about that being a benefit to everyone moving to chromium. Thankfully Firefox has kept pretty up to date with new features/standards too.
Imagine no WSL, no nothing. The only way to use Bash/Zsh is to use either a full blown VM or switch to Linux. All coders would 100% move to Linux, except that code in C++++.
I am probably going to get downvoted to hell for this, but powershell is pretty good.
You can write a whole project in powershell with proper intellisense. I think microsoft also sprinkled some f# type provider magic in it, so the programming experience is rather nice.
imagine writing complex logic in bash, zsh or even fish.
Even as the world’s biggest Microsoft hater I can admit that Powershell is pretty slick.
The bad doesn’t always negate the good. Take birth control for instance. It was developed in a highly unethical way (tested on a large population in Puerto Rico without their knowledge or consent IIRC). That was a bad thing, but birth control by itself is a good thing that improves people’s lives.
Pretty good by Windows standards, but it’s awful and too verbose and ugly by UNIX standards.
imagine writing complex logic in bash, zsh or even fish.
There are a lot of Bash wrappers for a lot of programs or the programs themselves are written in Bash. Maybe complex logic in Bash wouldn’t look pretty, but it is much easier than POSIX shell. And there is a LSP server for shellscript. If a custom command is present on the host, then the server will also see it and you can autocomplete it.
Some things are easier done with shell than python, so it all depends.
replaced a $20,000 cd rack with 15 cd drives + windows os for network sharing, with a desktop PC running redhat(bureaucracy wanted a support contract). Ripped all their cds w/ dd bash script I wrote for automating add/delete cds for the non-cli types.
It’s more user friendly in a thousand minor ways, such as installing programs, which makes it much more user friendly overall. At least MacOS has a consistent UI that doesn’t massively change every single update
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