I know, and trust me, I hate Apple for essentially breaking my computer after an update. But I had my MacBook for 6 years now, use it daily, and have no hiccups other wise.
Yeah, back when I was playing around with terminal not having a package manager was a huge pain in the ass.
As a windows and Mac user who has tried to use Linux multiple times I can’t stand the centralized managers. They never have what I need and then it ends up out of date and not working.
Is there some hidden benefit I’m missing? Because sourcing from the developer seems like the much better way to do it like Mac and Windows.
Easy: Nothing beats the simplicity of brew install whatever or apt install whatever, and then having whateverjust work, in my experience, pretty much every single time.
I’ve not had that experience. I’ve had to go hunting down package names on google before I can install it using the package manager, when instead I could have just downloaded it from their website.
Apt, brew and whatever Arch has have all had the same problems for me. They almost never work out of the box and they’re a major reason I don’t like using Linux on desktop.
Security: if they leave checksums on their website I don’t see how it’s any more secure
Up to date: I definitely haven’t had this experience. Multiple times on arch I had issues where an outdated repo caused an app to not be able to boot
Convenience: That’s subjective. I’ve never really seen much convenience from an all in one solution for anything. I find it more of a hassle to find the distro specific manager that has a terrible UI rather than just downloading directly off a web page
Windows would be coffee from a national chain, but when you take the lid off, there’s an ad under it, there’s an ad on the side of the cup, and at the very bottom of the cup there’s an ad that you don’t see until you’ve drank all the coffee. Oh and it comes with cream and sugar by default, even if you prefer it black. It also comes with ads for a subscription to a cream and sugar delivery service.
Apt is a good call. It predates yum, which itself predates yumv2-oops-dnf, and that beautiful porting gift from the Brazilian folks is still working hard at RPM management faster and more consistently than yum v1/v2 ever will.
Try PCLinuxOS (conectiva’s great-grandchild) - its template creation is horrible as they’ve forgotten how to anaconda, but otherwise it’s amazing.
Depends on how you categorize “Linux” User, if you include anything running a Linux Kernel as “Linux” then the vast majority have no clue they’re using Linux.
You laugh but windows defender is awesome. People give windows shit but the reason it’s attacked the most is because of it’s market share being above and beyond leaps and bounds sun vs tiny fleck of dust in space os market shares that Linux and Mac os have. No one’s wasting time hacking the tiny stuff as much just because its a numbers game. Guarenfuckingtee you if Linux was number one market share OS it would be getting attacked way more often than any other OS as well. Dont kid yourselves.
macOS and Linux have additional security features at a system level, on Linux most software comes through controlled repositories or sandboxed flatpaks. There are also tons of multi million dollar companies that constantly try to find and fix kernel level vulnerabilities and a distro like Debian, which is very popular for servers, has had less major vulnerabilities than windows 7 throughout its entire lifecycle and Debian exists for other 30 years. So I’d say Linux is would have a few less (different) attacks
Because if you’re gonna use an antivirus, Defender does just fine.
They all more or less use the same viral signature database and definitions, and are mostly feature-matched with each other. Why look beyond what your computer came with unless you’re installing something integrated with an RMM tool?
Because, in addition to the other valid points raised, modern “Anti”-Virus Software is often worse than an actual Virus.
There are way too many pop ups, the menus are confusing and constantly try to upsell you. If you want to remove the damn thing usually it doesn’t work, or doesn’t work completely, or has a separate auto-updater that reinstalls it after the next boot.
False positives screw you over good (Kaspersky killed the Ethernet Network on a buddy’s PC. He couldn’t use the internet on it until he managed to remove that piece of shit from his system completey) and are not less frequent than with Windows Defender but certainly more annoying (see above example)
If you paid a subscription getting rid of that is a pain as well (BitDefender tried to scam me out of 130€ by sending the billing notif to an email address they shouldn’t even have anymore)
Not all of them are shit like that but most are so sticking with the preinstalled Windows Defender that does 95% of the alternatives results in users having a better experience.
Honestly I’d love for more Linux-only apps to be available on Windows, so, when I’m forced to use it, I can still get the same awesome libre apps I’m enjoying on Linux.
Despite that, I still haven’t had the balls to open a single issue anywhere to support Windows 👀
There’s probably some random config file on a forum post 18 years old where half the images don’t load cause the hosting service they used for image went down
I’ll try again some time to check, but last time I had trouble with some apps installed on openSUSE WSL, like some theming issues and some apps not opening (probably relying on system components as you say)
as long as you don’t try to pass it any flags, that is. M$ defined ls etc. as straight aliases to the equivalent PowerShell commands that have their own flag system, so if you ls -l it will puke
It’s great, Arch users can explain why i3 works so much better on Arch versus Ubuntu minimal because check notes… the installer of Arch Linux is 15 years behind the competition?
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