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zephr_c, in big deal

I don’t care what you call it. Call it Steve if you want. GNU/Linux is awkward to say and will never catch on though.

Cold_Brew_Enema, in They just don't understand

$2000? That’s it? Pump those numbers up, rookie

laurelraven, in Distros bad

Turkish coffee pot: works with literally any source of heat if you know what you’re doing.

NetBSD.

BaardFigur, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

Mac: No

m3t00, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

I hired into a community college IT dept ~2000. Manager told me they were a Windows shop. Ha np. I proceeded to replace 3/4 of their server room with Linux. email, cd servers, file servers, web servers, db2, PeopleSoft(gack!). I was working on a cs degree which they paid for about half

PersnickityPenguin,

I did that too, but I came after the guy left and the lady running the department didn’t have the admin passwords for any of the machines. So… When they finally went down, that was the end of printing. I advised her to have the actual university IT department install real managed printers, instead of their windows xp virus infected underpowered computers.

Next day I lost my job lol

sysadmin420,

Username checks out 😁

doomkernel, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

What do you mean with “enough money”? Linux is free. It’ll only cost time to adjust the workflow

pathief,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

They mean the user will happily pay for the new windows version instead.

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

How can they do that if they don’t have enough money

tetraodon,

It’s badly written. It has to be interpreted so:

Most people [don’t care enough] or [have enough money]

magnusrufus,

Shouldn’t the “don’t” be outside the [ ] so that it applies to both sides of the or?

tetraodon,

Normally yes, but in this context it wouldn’t make sense. Why would people who [don’t have enough money] stick with Windows?

magnusrufus,

Ah, you are correct. I had to reread it to finally parse it correctly.

pete_the_cat, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

Windows can’t even install its own old products! I remember back when I had to upgrade systems from XP to 7 and the users needed IE8 in able to use some internal websites. Microsoft was like “Fuck you, you can only use IE9 or above” there was literally no way to download IE8.

I also hate it when they only make shit available through the Windows Store or another convoluted process. No more downloading a simple EXE or MSI and double clicking it!

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Wasn’t IE8 preinstalled on Windows 7? Wasn’t IE9 the only version of IE that wasn’t preinstalled on anything? I’m pretty sure someone (if not you) already downloaded IE9, in that case, I absolutely don’t know how to downgrade versions of IE.

pete_the_cat,

I don’t remember what version it was exactly, this was like a decade ago, but I just remember that I needed the previous version and couldn’t find anywhere to download it.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Still a shame

cupcakezealot, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

unpopular opinion. homebrew is better than apt or yum.

Grass,

Probably why it’s an option on some distros

pete_the_cat,

Sorry you’re wrong 😛

Homebrew only supports one user (AFAIK). We had shared iMacs at work, and some stuff was installed using homebrew with the permissions modified so everyone could access what was installed. One night I got bored at work and upgraded some things… Which changed the permissions back to only the user that installed the cask (or whatever) and broke the terminal and other things for everyone else. My coworker was pissed the next time he saw me.

Any sane Linux package manager (I’m not counting Snap and FlatPak) installs stuff system-wide and all users can access the installed packages.

Linux is inherently a multi-user OS but Apple apparently stripped that feature from OS X.

AVincentInSpace,

Of course things are going to break if you take something that’s meant to be installed per-user and open up one user’s installation to everyone else on the system. Not Brew’s fault your company’s IT used it outside spec.

pete_the_cat,

It’s no necessarily Brew’s fault either, but more the shitty way Apple decided to implement it.

Lobreeze, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

I use Linux at work. All my personal laptops are Linux. My home server is Linux…

I updated to windows 11 on my main PC and it isn’t that bad anymore. Have it working almost like 10 was.

No average user is going to give a shit about 10 -> 11

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Except I had to trick my PC into upgrading. Lots of hardware that’s still perfectly good will block you from upgrading/installing W11.

humanplayer2,
@humanplayer2@lemmy.ml avatar

If your machine support it. Aren’t gen 7 Intel chips and earlier unsupported?

galoisghost, in alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'
@galoisghost@aussie.zone avatar

Most people still Google “Facebook” to login to Facebook.

The general public won’t start using Linux until the computer they buy from their local big box store has it installed by default. Which for a brief moment nearly happened with netbooks.

Selkie,

I know it’s mostly because I’m in the middle of nowhere, most people I know don’t know what OS they’re running

TigrisMorte,

They don't even know what program they browse the internet with, manage documents with, nor view media with. They know what button to press. George Jetson is our reality.

MrBubbles96,

Most people still Google “Facebook” to login to Facebook.

Wait, I’m lost here…what’s the problem there? Maybe they wanna use the browser version and not the app (i haven’t used facebook in ages, so I’ve no idea if the site now just funnels you into their desktop/mobile app as much as they can)

galoisghost,
@galoisghost@aussie.zone avatar

I’m just pointing out the general tech ignorance in the world. There are generally people who think they need to go through Google to go to any other web page on the internet.

MrBubbles96,

Ahh, yeah, you’re right in that case then

ares35,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

you ain't a joking. i see that all the time. searching for facebook, youtube, amazon, gmail, hotmail..... even 'binging' for google.

accideath, in Distros bad

What distro would a moka pot be?

AlotOfReading,

It’s a little weird and very European, so OpenSUSE.

accideath,

I can very much live with that. Love me some suse

andrew, (edited ) in Distros bad
@andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

I feel like arch is the espresso machine and Gentoo is a pile of espresso machine parts.

aard, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?
@aard@kyu.de avatar

Installing 25 year old binaries on Linux is rather interesting - relevant for stuff like some of the old Loki ports. Problem is mostly that they’ve been written with kernel 2.2 in mind, which does have different behaviour for quite a few things - you generally can find old libc versions compatible with the binary, but those libc versions don’t necessarily play nice with the kernel.

There are some compatibility flags which made things work last time I checked - but not sure if that’s the case, and it definitely won’t work forever, given that 32bit x86 support is likely to be dropped eventually.

umbraroze,
@umbraroze@kbin.social avatar

It's funny, the only Linux software I've ever used that was only shipped as binaries was Loki games. Also, the only software that broke after binary compatibility went south. There used to be a giant tarball of old libraries and jiggerypokery that enabled the Loki games to sorta kinda work.

I was kind of sad to see that Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri didn't run too well, but then I tried to play the GOG version on x64 Windows 11 and there are occasional weird issues. So, eh.

aard,
@aard@kyu.de avatar

There’s a lot of enterprise stuff that only ships as binaries. I had some fun in the late 00s trying to find the most recent distribution still shipping packages for egcs as that was the only compiler supported by the Lotus Domino SDK.

(For the younger ones here: There was some disagreement about gcc development, which resulted in the egcs fork. It got merged back into mainline gcc by he late 90s already, though)

At the time when the Loki ports happened it was a great thing - before that you pretty much had doom and quake available. Nowadays things are better with steam, but it’s quite likely that we’ll see some stuff break there in a few years as well, at least for older games.

Bishma, in So sad when it happens
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I’m currently learning FreeCAD so that the one machine I still have sitting around to run Fusion360 can be liberated from Windows at long last. And as a bonus I won’t have to keep updating NoMachine every couple weeks.

thantik, (edited )

FreeCAD is such garbage though. In something like 6 months, CadSketcher blender plugin made something that was far more functional, and FreeCAD has been in development for 20 years and it still can’t provide a logical, cohesive CAD experience.

Honestly, Solidworks is my hangup too, so I get the willingness to castrate yourself in order to just move to Linux finally. I’m thinking of moving over to their 3DExperienceWorks product that runs in the browser. If it handles my workflow, and I can get the cheap “maker” license without them ever asking me to upgrade it, then I’m finally down to switch full time.

The other big problem that I generally have is window-decoration and padding. I need to find a window manager where I can have things with embedded tabs but pixel-perfect edges. I like a single-pixel edge to my applications and as dense as possible window title bars.

Now that Firefox is releasing Wayland enabled by default, it might be the time to try again.

HeyLow,

I feel that the no machine updates are insane

I_Miss_Daniel,

Is Rustdesk an option?

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Might be, but all remote access software sucks to some degree. I’d much rather not need it all by not having an old windows box I need to remote into.

nogrub,

icome from solidworks and use oneshape now its cloud based but for personal use free and its pretty simmilar to solideworks

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I’m not OK with all my models being public unless I pay.

GreenMario, in When you need to retire an old server

Depends. What’s the uptime on that server? Are we talking years? Thatd be worth to “pour one out for da homies”.

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