XEAL, (edited )

You install something that at the core is the same as you but with a better interface.

It’s funny how Microsoft just gave up on creating a new web browser and instead just rebranded someone else’s homework.

ILikeBoobies,

Edge uses less RAM than Chrome

joyjoy,

It’s what they do best, but it usually involves buying a company.

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Edge integrates into M365 far better than Chrome integrates into Google Workspaces. I still use Firefox at work. But its cool for my illiterate users.

Kerb,
@Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

not even that

winget install Mozilla.Firefox

HW07,

Choco > winget imo

Telodzrum,

I’d argue that it’s not really an opinion, but objective fact.

HW07,

I find that winget tends to just grab M$ Store packages, essentially becoming just an alternative CLI frontend.

Chocolatey, however, actually grabs the native program. And it isn’t developed by Microsoft.

Even Scoop is good enough, however programs might not work perfectly because it uses portable versions of the program.

possiblylinux127,

Scoop is way better than both of those as it bypasses installing apps completely

HW07,

But some apps don’t function properly if not installed. So I think that chocolatey is better.

rtxn, (edited )

Fuck Winget. It’s a GUI-only person’s idea of what a CLI package manager should be. The only positive value I can think of is that it’s better than not having one at all.

I manage about 500 Windows machines in a university. When teachers started complaining that they are unfamiliar with the paid version of an IDE, and we’d have to install the free community edition, I was delighted to learn that it was available through Winget. But privilege escalation on Windows is a fucking joke, so trying to install it remotely through Ansible/WinRM just popped the UAC anyway. I had to VNC into every single machine to click the fucking button. As an additional middle finger, winget.exe was not even in PATH when I tried WinRMing as the local admin.

Winget is the absolute nadir of package managers, and it should be doused in acid, burned, chucked in the dumpster where it belongs, and forgotten. Choco and Scoop all the way.

possiblylinux127,

Use scoop

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

why do windows users install chrome?

i don’t get it, edge comes preinstalled on windows and it’s chromium-based.

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

The same reason people are reluctant to leave the Apple ecosystem, you’d have to set everything up again.

nixcamic, (edited )

If you’re gonna go though the trouble of installing a browser, why switch Microsoft for Google? They’re both evil and Edge actually performs significantly better than Chrome somehow (they’re basically the same I don’t get it).

Install freaking Firefox.

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

If you’re gonna go though the trouble of installing a browser, why switch Microsoft for Google?

Exactly I don’t get it, the only explanation I can think of is that they have Chrome on their phone and want to sync it or something?

Obi,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

It’s just momentum. Chrome was THE advised browser for a long time and people are just used to it.

Kleinbonum,

Conversely, if they’re both evil, why use Microsoft over Google?

People have their browser set up the way they want it, and downloading and installing Chrome to have everything sync back and work exactly the way they want things to work takes all of two minutes.

Why use Edge and spend time and effort to import bookmarks, import passwords, change settings, install extensions etc. only to have the exact same end result that downloading Chrome would have given them in the first place, but with the added annoyance of Microsoft leveraging Edge to nudge them into the Microsoft ecosystem?

nixcamic,

Conversely, if they’re both evil, why use Microsoft over Google?

You shouldn’t, you should use Firefox.

Kleinbonum,

Point being that installing Chrome isn’t the “trouble” you’re making it out to be, when switching to Edge comes with zero advantage.

But you weren’t asking an open ended question anyway, right?

Skimmer, (edited )

I agree yeah, I’d say in a lot of ways that Edge is much better than Chrome, due to its performance and also very good security, plus some tracking protection (though not a lot) vs. Chrome’s none, etc. Between the 2, I’d probably always pick Edge.

But yeah just never use either tbh, Firefox ftw.

nicoweio,

Force of habit? Plus, if I used Windows, I wouldn’t use Edge out of spite. Fuck their shady ways of pushing users to use it.

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

it’s not even shady anymore. it’s just clingy and pathetic like an ex who can’t move on.

Patches,

Because most people these days still don’t know Edge is chromium based instead of Garbage based

vinhill,

I think lots of people also don’t know how easy it is to migrate all user data between browsers. Also, the added work of changing your phone app is probably too much for the average, comfortable consumer.

dansity,

I used to get it why people install chrome. It had a specific look and feel. It’s no more, all browsers (except some startups making up the rules) look the same. Its a full page window with tabs on the top. Vanilla FF looks the same.

Sharp312,

Honestly i dont think most people do. We’re all in a bubble of atleast somewhat technically minded people, not just on lemmy but im sure most of our friends irl are similar. Ive been in a few officey type areas and out of the vast majority of monitors ive seen, theyve been using edge, sometimes i even see multiple browsers open lmao. Just checked statcounter and edge is the third most used which is fucking nuts when you consider how many options there are.

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah but sometimes it’s the ESR version which is super slow to get feature updates. Though I suppose that’s fair for distros intended for server or other enterprise applications.

WereCat, (edited )

Not anymore. Just open PowerShell

winget install whateveryouwant

odelik, (edited )

At least in win11.

Not sure about win10, which didn’t have it installed by default orginally, but could be now? None of my win 10 machines are recent enough fresh installs to confirm, and have winget (and choco) installed because I installed it so I can install stuff easily.

rmuk,

On Windows 10 it was automatically installed as an update using - wait for it - the Microsoft Store.

Yes, the system-wide package manager was distributed as a package in the desktop store. 🤌

WereCat,

No idea about 10 either

possiblylinux127, (edited )

<span style="color:#323232;">Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned -Scope CurrentUser # Optional: Needed to run a remote script the first time
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">irm get.scoop.sh | iex
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span>

Microsoft doesn’t need to even be involved

257m,

Not on arch it isn’t.

dansity,

Not on linux from scratch

257m, (edited )

Not on TempleOS. /s

nexussapphire,

Someone should make a distro that is just all the annoying stuff in windows.

DuckGuy,
@DuckGuy@mander.xyz avatar

"It’s already installed… as a Snap package."

Johnmannesca,
@Johnmannesca@lemmy.world avatar

Just install scoop and install packages in the terminal if you’re bothering with Windows

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