FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Remember ndiswrapper?

0x4E4F,

Don’t remind me 😔…

Ooops,
@Ooops@kbin.social avatar

No, that buried deep in the box with suppressed memories. So thank you for reminding me.

Zerush, (edited )
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

ReviOS for the Windows user. It’s not a OS, but a collection of scripts which convert Windows in what it should have been.

Blue_Morpho,

Works with 11 22H2. That’s a year out of date.

It’s the same problem that all the prepackaged modified Windows have when I go to try them out in a VM. They always seems to be way out of date and with all the security problems of Windows, I don’t want to run an old version just to save the time of cleaning out the telemetry and bloatware. Powershell scripts are more robust for me.

ILikeBoobies,

Just use NTLite yourself

Metz, (edited )

Printer are worse. try to get a decade old brother to print more than a half page without completely freezing and needing a hard restart. driver is unmaintained unfortunately.

on Windows the printer works perfect though. which makes me quite unhappy :|

wifi on the other hand is not a problem i can remember. even on a 15 year old laptop, the AUR has a driver that it extracts from a ancient .deb and then patches it to make it work with modern kernels. lovely.

camelbeard,

I specifically bought a Brother printer because they at least try to support Linux. My previous one Samsung was much worse, it had Google cloud print so I could still use it. But Google like always killed something people liked.

Franzia,

On windows the printer works perfectly

Well, now I’ve heard everything.

0x4E4F,

What about cups, they have no driver for that printer there?

I have a LaserJet 1000, 20+ years old, only works Linux and Windows x86 😂… so I just set up a peint server and shared it 🤷.

Metz,

The driver shows up as “cups + gutenprint” and as far i can tell there is no other. so i guess that is already the one and only available driver.

and i have to correct myself, it is a Canon, not a Brother. Canon MX300 from 2007.

I mean it is not that big of a deal anyway. there is a single Windows machine left in this household that i can use for print jobs. and yeah, maybe i could use it as print server, that is actually a interesting idea lol.

0x4E4F, (edited )

Try searching online for cups filters. Maybe someone made a custom filter file for that printer that works… worth a shot 🤷. I’ve had luck hunting down custom filters for some obscure printers in the past.

Setting up a shared printer in Windows is (could be) a PITA though… not being able to choose SMB versions can make your Linux setups with SMB a pain 😔. That’s why I prefer Linux with samba as the print server, you can fine tune almost everything to make it work with any Windows and Linux install.

Metz,

thanks for the tip, i will have a look!

and yeah, funny enough i had less problems getting SMB to work between linux and windows than windows and windows despite it being a Microsoft native.

0x4E4F, (edited )

Also, true story, LTSC 2019 can’t see shares from LTSC 2021, but the opposite works without a problem 🤣. It was a bug, they eventually fixed it, but took them like a year or so (they threw the ball at users, not setting up the shares correctly 😒), and I already reinstalled all rigs with LTSC 2019, so… too late MS 🤷… I haven’t used LTSC 2021 from that point on.

Longpork_afficianado,

It’s the newer Wi-Fi chips that have issues, those for which drivers aren’t yet released. There always seems to be a year-long delay between the next gen laptops being released and the wifi drivers for them.

Pantherina,

The state of coreboot on modern hardware

The security problems of Linux over Android

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

I only had issues with this when setting up Kali Linux for learning pen testing. Fedora it worked out of the box.

CowsLookLikeMaps, (edited )

If you want some irony, on a recent Ubuntu install I was able to access WiFi out of the box but the small windoze dual boot partition refused to connect to a WiFi 6 router. Tried upgrading driver, downgrading drivers, nothing… The computer came shipped with windows 10.

maiskanzler,

Gotta love notebooks and their weird and rarely wonderful Wifi-Chips attached via SDIO. Even the intel cards can have problems!

kautau,

Now we’re in the realm of weird sound drivers from integrated chipsets. Thankfully sof-firmware exists

AdrianTheFrog,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Isn’t the main problem that most of them are proprietary, so they can’t be shipped automatically if you want to avoid shipping a distro with proprietary software?

0x4E4F, (edited )

The proprietary stuff is shipped as “firmware” (even though that’s not always the case) allongside the distro’s kernel. My best guess is that some distro out there (Ubuntu most probably) has obtained permission from a bunch of manufacturers to ship this “firmware” allongside it’s kernel. The rest of the distro’s are just riding this train, repackaging the firmware packages (if they can do it and redistribute it, why can’t we 🤷).

I might be mistaken, but this is the only thing that makes sense to me. Maybe it’s a semi-coordinated joint effor as well, like someone obtains permission to share firmware, writes to a bunch of maintainers and devs that “this and this” binary blob is free for redistribution and it gets picked up by most popular distros out there.

Crow,
@Crow@lemmy.world avatar

Yet the Bluetooth drivers are great. What gives?

0x4E4F,

Yeah, they came in later on and that’s why I think they were “better”… learned from experience with the wifi drivers. And they weren’t really better, most of them still use binary blobs.

DoomBot5,

Having coded against them, I’d argue that point. They’re just as bad as Wi-Fi.

Synthead,

Every wireless adapter I’ve used in Linux for the last 10 years has worked flawlessly.

bjorney,

10 years ago was the turning point. I remember as late as 2010 -2012 having to use NDISwrapper to install the windows XP wifi drivers because there were no native drivers so you had to run the windows drivers through an emulation layer to get wifi to work. Even within the past 5 years I’ve had to compile my own fixes for realtek chips because the auto installed drivers were not working optimally

0x4E4F,

Yes, if it’s on 5 to 10 year old hardware.

Synthead,

I haven’t had any issues with new hardware, either.

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

wifi drivers are fine nowadays

still have issues with some webcams tho

MonkderZweite, (edited )

Scanner drivers are worse.

But are you perhaps referencing to the situation with Broadcom just incrementing their chips and drivers for years, flooding the market with cheap but quirky chips? Do they still do that?

0x4E4F, (edited )

Have no idea to be honest, I stole the meme 😂. But yes, I have had problems with wifi drivers on Linux. Not a lot, but still.

And yes, I’m still trying to get an old Microtek scanner to work in Linux 😔.

MonkderZweite, (edited )

Mine just stopped working with brscan5 driver. It was a fast and quiet mobile scanner with high quality output. The new one is bigger, slower and louder and runs 90% of time in some photo mode. 🙁

edit: clarified

0x4E4F,

Have no idea what that is to be honest 😂.

kala_telo,
@kala_telo@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I think it very depends on your hardware. I, personally, never had problems with it, on thinkpad which I use right now WiFi drivers were out of box even in Gentoo minimal ISO(It uses iwlwifi). But, every hardware that I have is about 10yo. And I think I haven’t any non-intel WiFi-cards.

But also one of my friends had to compile drivers for his card manually from github, and second friend had issues with his WiFi constantly disconnecting which we couldn’t solve.

kala_telo,
@kala_telo@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

And also I never had nvidia chips, I have one very old from AMD, and other computers use just intel integrated graphic.

0x4E4F,

Yeah, I use whatever integrated I can get 😂. Don’t game, 2 monitors is more than enough for me, so 🤷 😂.

0x4E4F,

That might also be a general network drivers vs. kernel version problem as well. I’ve had that on some Ubuntu falvors on various cards, it isn’t specific to just wi-fi, it happened on lan as well (just disconnects for a few ms and then connects again).

And yeah, one of the many reasons why I usually buy second hand hardware as well. One, it’s a lot cheaper, two, drivers for Linux are usually not a problem 😁.

NaoPb,

I still have issues with certain ASUS cards that simply crash the whole system when it gets too high a load or something. I’ve never been able to find a solution for it and I fear I never will.

0x4E4F,

Chipset?

NaoPb,

I just had a look. It’s the Asus PCE-N10. From what I can find they have the Realtek RTL8188CE chipset.

0x4E4F, (edited )

Yeah, Realtek WiFi cards are known to be problematic in Linux. Lan as well, but not to that extent.

Just swap the card with another one, no need to pull hair over it, it will most probably never work like it should.

NaoPb,

I’ve started using usb wifi adapters so I can easily swap them out if they don’t work. Looks less neat to me but it is what it is.

0x4E4F,

They have a very very limited range. I have used them, but only if the AP is in the same room, otherwise, they crap out.

PS: Everything’s built from reinforced concrete and cinderblocks/bricks around here (seismically active region), so we have trouble with all sorts of wireless signals, including WiFi and 3/4G. 5G is out of the question here. We do have the towers, but less than 1% of users actually use them.

TheWoozy,

If you want to scream, try wifi drivers on BSD!

0x4E4F,

Mhm… have tried it… not gonna try it again… gave up after 3 days, went back to Linux.

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