Rolando,

Imagine the following scenario: you meet someone in college, and when you graduate at 22 you don’t want to split up. They say sure, let’s live together, but we need to get engaged; if it doesn’t work out we can just break it off. After a year you realize your lives are much better together. You decide to get married but not to have kids until you’re 30. If it doesn’t work out you can divorce, but you sign a prenup and at least no kids would be involved.

If you both have clear and compatible career goals, that scenario saves you a lot of dating drama and gives you valuable support. I wouldn’t call someone in that scenario “weird.”

ThatWeirdGuy1001,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

I think the main point here is people around those ages aren’t fully capable of making those kinds of decisions in the first place.

There’s a reason why most marriages end in divorce after all.

Get married before you have a clue. Get a clue after being married a couple years. Get a divorce because you realize you had no idea what you were doing.

Lucidlethargy,

This is 100% a data-driven fact. It can’t apply to everyone, but it’s a really great average.

Those who wait until after 25 have a 25% chance of not getting divorced.

Francois, (edited )

The way you phrased it is not quite what the study says.

They’re not “25% likely of not divorcing” (which would mean there’s a 75% chance of divorce).

They’re “25% less likely of divorcing”

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

What purpose does engagement and marriage serve there? “Must be this financially trapped to continue?”

variants,

Yeah I’ve noticed at least a lot from my high-school group that dating for about 4 years is a good amount of time, me personally and a lot of close friends seemed to have hit their hardships in a relationship around that 4 year mark. Also moving is a good test about how you do in stress haha

terminhell, (edited )

Been married for 10 years now. There’s one thing I’ve found to be the ultimate relationship tester:

Furniture Assembly.

If you can survive assembling a few pieces of IKEA puzzles together it’s probably going to last XD

SomeKindaName,

I just don’t get this. I’ve never had any issues putting together furniture or dated anyone who had trouble with it. I can’t think of a single ex where furniture assembly was an issue.

immutable,

I think furniture assembly is more about being able to work together for a common goal and communicate what you need the other person to do and listen to what they need you to do.

For some reason a lot of people struggle to assemble ikea stuff (I honestly don’t know why, I’ve assembled dozens of items and it’s not rocket science). But there’s definitely been moments when I’ve been assembling some shelf and need my wife to assist with a two person step. If the assembly has been frustrating you have a really good test of how well can the two of you communicate through frustration and work together.

So maybe you are great at ikea assembly and don’t have the frustration factor, or you are a wonderful communicator and listener. For a lot of people though it’s that “this is the 12th step, I’m annoyed because I did the 9th step backwards and had to undo some shit, I’ve stripped this fucking screw… I’m gonna slide this piece and you need to guide it past the shelves, past them, you see how it’s hitting the fucking piece of wood, I need it not to do that!!!”

You probably shouldn’t marry everyone you can build a shelf with, but if you can’t effectively communicate when frustrated doing something trivial like building a shelf with someone you should work on that before tying the knot.

terminhell,

^^^^ Exactly what I meant 😅

shuzuko,

Our way of surviving furniture assembly is for him to Go Away And Let Me Do It, because I can follow directions and he just tries to slap things together without looking xD

I love my husband! Knowing when to just let the other person get on with shit is a pretty good litmus test, I agree, lol.

terminhell,

Maybe it’s bad luck, but half the time the instructions are physically impossible to follow on certain steps.

brbposting,

Better than teaching stick shift?

If anybody still knows what that is!

ColeSloth,

As people wait longer to marry over the generations, the divorce rate has increased and level of “happiness” has declined.

Causation yadda yadda yadda. You still can’t actually disprove its why.

pingveno,

The divorce rate among millennials is decreasing in the US compared to earlier generations. That said, reducing it to how long people are waiting to marry ignores a lot of other factors. For instance, low income couples are more likely to never marry, their relationships are less stable, and if they do get married they are more likely to get divorced.

hperrin,

What’s wrong with the divorce rate increasing? Like, no joke, is that not a good thing? More people getting out of bad relationships seems like a better outcome.

zanyllama52,
@zanyllama52@infosec.pub avatar

Seems like 24 is an arbitrary number. Some folks consider themselves “ready” for marriage at 18, some at 40, and some never.

I think its very subjective and situational.

Kushia,
@Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

I wonder if OP is 24 and just got married.

electric_nan,

Do whatever you want. Maybe your marriage will last, maybe it won’t. Live your life. Take chances.

Custoslibera,

Hahahahahaha

Cries in paralysing anxiety

electric_nan,

I’m sorry you have to deal with that. I have lived with a persistent background anxiety for my whole life, and only in the last year have I started treating it (in my 40’s). It hasn’t solved all my problems, but it does mean I’m not constantly jittery. If you’re already treating your anxiety, then I can only wish you luck and success.

dlrht,

At what age are you supposed to know what you want for the rest of your life? You will never have an answer to that in any capacity, and not just in marriage. You evolve as a person, you’ll never have a fixed desire for your whole life. And that’s the great thing about marriage and relationships, they also evolve. And it’s about who you want to try doing that with

Kit,

At what age are you supposed to know what you want for the rest of your life?

Maybe around the year that the brain finishes developing, which can vary from person to person but is typically around the mid 20s.

dlrht, (edited )

I see/hear about marriages started at 30+ 40+ 50+ all the time that fail. I see people pivot careers and industries in the middle years of their life. People tastes change all the time as they get older. Let’s not pretend that when your brain finishes developing you suddenly have life figured out/know exactly what you want

I generally agree that getting married before 24 is a pretty risky move and you have to have thought it through very carefully, but the argument that “you don’t know what you want for the rest of your life” is not the reason why that is. It relates more to life experience/emotional capability/massive foresight. Marriage is more than just “wanting something for the rest of your life”, it’s a commitment, it’s not just some eternal desire you may/may not have

InfiniWheel,

I feel like it might come from the fact most relationships are pretty short before you are 24. Few people hold onto long lasting relationships by that age and few (at the time) short ones develop into anything reliable.

A former classmate of mine met a guy and got married after knowing him almost a year, like right out of highschool. Last I heard of her they went through a messy divorce couple of years later, which we all saw coming and tried telling her about.

dlrht,

That sounds more like an issue with that person not being open/receptive to her peers advice. And I think this is true for many people beyond the age of 24 as well

Wanderer,

I think anyone that refers to an adult as a child is weird.

Custoslibera,

I’m more referring to myself.

I was in my 20’s once and thought I was a fully fledged adult. In some ways I was, in others I was not, I was still just a kid.

Probably say the same about myself in another 20 years.

sharkfucker420, (edited )
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

If we make it to 24 that’d be 8 years of dating and id feel bad not marrying her by then. My only caveat is I want to be out of college by the time we marry tbh

I’ll probably still go to grad school but I’d atleast like my BS

UnverifiedAPK,

That’s what we did, it just turned out that we were together for 7 years before everything fell in to place. We got out of college, got our careers in order, and bought a house. Then married the next year.

Imgonnatrythis,

Not going to try to change your mind about this opinion, but I’ll take a stab at shaming you for being so vocal about a thought that is very much “othering”. Maybe turn down the judgement a bit, you don’t know people.

sixty,

You’re weird

some_guy,

What’s truly insane is people who marry under 20. And if you think it’s possible to know who you are and what you want at that age, you have a very simplistic view of the world. Or you’re brainwashed by those who reared you, ie you have a very simplistic view of the world.

deft,

Concept of marriage is weird and feels like some weird breeder shit imo

It is a religious ceremony and should hold no legal bounds. Most benefits of marriage should be considered something else. Marriage is fuckin weird

fl42v,

On one hand, it kinda is. On the other hand, ppl tend to turn out to be complete jerks, and marriage somewhat protects from the consequences of such a revelation. On the third hand, what Bolex said

charles,
@charles@lemmy.world avatar

I see a pretty stark difference between people who married young and had kids right away, vs people who married young and enjoyed their time for a while before having kids. The ones who had kids seem weird to me, never got a chance to goof off in their 20s and figure out who they are. The ones who waited feel more normal. But that’s just my experience.

Alivrah,

This is the main point here, IMO. A child is a huge responsibility and the early 20s is a period of life you’re still figuring things out. Culture also plays a role here; where I’m from, people are deciding to live together (without having kids) for a couple of years before formally marrying.

Rolando,

The ones who had kids seem weird to me, never got a chance to goof off in their 20s and figure out who they are.

I definitely needed to goof off in my 20s and figure out who I was. But not everybody is like that, and the meme in question suggests it’s “weird” to know who you are and not need to goof off.

BCsven,

Marurity matters, not years . In my parents era 18 was a common marriage age, but they were done high-school and working full time at 16, unless you went to Uni.

Lifebandit666,

Met my now wife in high school. We’ve been together since high school.

We’ve been married for 5 years now.

I’m 40 next.

So kinda agree with the post, but not the sentiment that if you met your partner early you’re weird. I was lucky I met the love of my life so young. Just because you didn’t doesn’t mean I’m weird, just not as lucky as me.

Enekk,

Met my wife in highschool and got married right out of college. We are now pushing 40 and are still happy and content. We were lucky, we grew together and in similar ways, but we also just knew when we knew. We even had twins a few years back and even the stress of that didn’t destroy us.

We (hopefully) still have many years together and maybe things will break down, but, so far, neither of us regret marrying so young.

PeriodicallyPedantic, (edited )

There are some arguments in this thread that are getting dangerously similar to pedo arguments.

Edit:

Who is downvoting me? How am I wrong? Look at all these “age is just a number” comments. All the “some people are mature for their age” comments. I’m not making an accusation, but if you think this is a winning argument with your full chest then my level of concern is rising.

Psythik,

I’m 35 and I’m still not sure that I’m old enough to get married yet.

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