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PP_BOY_, (edited ) in Slavery: still a thing
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This is not specific at all to the U.S. and the overwhelming majority of rational adults should be able to see that it’s a good thing for society to be able to legally remove members who pose a clear risk to the safety and function of it. Whether or not the 13th Amendment is administered fairly is a different conversation^1, but the false equivalency this post makes between legal imprisonment and chattel slavery is a fallacy.

^1 It’s not.

surewhynotlem,

This isn’t about removing people from society. It’s about the practice of using them to perform free labor.

Delphia,

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  • surewhynotlem,

    Yes, you can use slaves to offset the cost of their upkeep. That argument sucks.

    Delphia,

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  • Garbanzo,

    ETHICALLY it’s not volunteering if it’s coerced, and I can’t think of many things more coercive than the promise of more prison.

    Delphia,

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  • Garbanzo,

    Its not the promise of more prison, its an offer of less prison. The difference between coercion and incentive.

    No. There’s a distinction but not a difference.

    PsychedSy,

    For profit prisons are less than 10% of all prisons. Police unions are the threat.

    Num10ck,

    rehabilitation please

    MxM111, in Slavery: still a thing
    @MxM111@kbin.social avatar

    US constitution is not a moral or criminal or other type of code for all cases of light. It does not forbid, for example shoplifting or driving on red light.

    ivanafterall,
    @ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

    Damn, TIL. You just planned my weekend, thanks for the tip!

    balderdash9, (edited )

    You could have worded this better, and I’m not a legal expert, but I think you mean: the U.S. constitution doesn’t make claims about morality. It gives penalties for doing certain actions.

    Sure, but that’s beside the point.

    blackbelt352,

    The only crime listed out in the constitution is treason.

    The rest of it is explaining the roles and duties of the various branches of government, and the supremacy clause says that the Constitution, the federal legal code and any treaties are the Supreme laws of the land.

    JeSuisUnHombre,

    Amendments are part of the constitution, that is the reason they exist, to amend the document. Hence this meme referencing the 13th

    blackbelt352,

    The amendments aren’t like laws, there’s no punishments written in them however they’re directives to what the government can and can’t do. For example the 13th amendment restricts the use of slavery in US jurisdictions with the exception of punishment of crime.

    Like I said the only crime listed in the Constitution is treason, everything else is about how the government is supposed to run and what limitations it has.

    MxM111,
    @MxM111@kbin.social avatar

    So what’s the point?

    I_Fart_Glitter,

    Private citizens enslaving people is illegal because it is forbidden in the constitution. Only the government is allowed to enslave people now, as punishment for crime. “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

    ech, in Follow the light

    Now I’m imagining a moth AU where they’re arguing about the environmental impact of flames vs these “newfangled” light bulbs.

    ExfilBravo, in Applies to almost anything

    Been playing guitar for decades and can play fairly well. When someone watches me play I look like I just picked it up yesterday.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod, in Ramen
    @Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

    Probably the highest Nobel prizes to calories consumed if any food

    Anticorp, in Happy Friday, Lemmy

    What is MFS?

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar
    Anticorp,

    I’m tired of these motherfucking acronyms on these motherfucking memes!

    can,

    MFs

    DrPop, in Early bird

    npr.org/…/science-says-teens-need-more-sleep-so-w…

    Sorry for the delay. But this is the interview I listened to about this topic.

    unreachable, in Follow the light
    @unreachable@lemmy.world avatar
    balderdash9,
    ininewcrow, in Applies to almost anything
    @ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

    Wow … that’s a lot of talent … mine is more of a wisp or thin formless vapour that you’d hardly notice

    Mordred_vat, in Simply must have

    The balloons sell it

    RmDebArc_5, in I've been robbed!
    @RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

    It is 2tb. If you look in your drive manager you will see: 2tb. The 0.2tb missing are from the formatting

    ekZepp, in Gotta be nice to the future skynet
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    Wise move. I’m sure you’ll be spared.

    originalucifer, in He's coming to town
    @originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

    this seems more poignant with bruce's all-but-death diagnosis.

    ipkpjersi, in Is nothing sacred?

    I haven’t had sobe in years, now I want to try it and I can’t. Great.

    RIP_Cheems, in We don't accept insurance
    @RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

    'Murica

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