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Lemongrab, in private browsers wiki im working on
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Add cromite (the main bromite fork) which is on Windows and Android, and Mull by DivestOS (like arkenfox for Android). If you want to make a mobile section I would recommend Mull, Cromite, Fenix (fdroid). The thing with privacy browsers is they differ from security centric browsers. Vandium and Mulch are chromium security browsers for Graphene and Divest respectively, Cromite is a privacy chromium browser with good security as well. Ungoogled is designed as a drop in replacement for vanilla Chromium, and has custom flags for hardenning that must be enabled manually.

Spider89, (edited )

Isnt chromite obsolete?

EDIT: Nevermind…

Lemongrab,
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How

Spider89,

Whopps, Had bromite and cromite backwards.

UprisingVoltage,

That one’s bromite, which is discontinued. Cromite is the successor to that project

Spider89, (edited )

Opps. Got them backwards…

Templa, (edited )

Will Cromite be able to keep blocking ads when Manivest v3 roll out? I currently refuse to use Chromium browsers and I am trying to run Mull on my newly acquired Pixel with Graphene, but I’ve been having a few issues with it (constant crashes and such). I am aware the Graphene team doesn’t recommend Gecko based browsers but Vanadium is a nono for me since there’s no ad blocking on it so I am really struggling on which mobile browser to use.

Lemongrab,
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Iirc Manifest v3 effect extensions. Chromium mobile doesnt support extensions in the first place (except kiwi which isnt great for privacy). Cromite uses imported blocklists in the settings and therefore should be alright.

Templa,

Chromium mobile doesnt support extensions in the first place

I completely forgot about that! Thank you for the reply

Asudox, in Next smartphone I buy, which one do you recommend?
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Google Pixel with GrapheneOS.

omnissiah,
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Im going to do this and leave every social media except some federated instances.

Already went with Linux and FOSS years ago. Finally time to say good riddance to everything that doesnt align for what I stand for. I like it better anyway

unexpectedteapot,

I keep seeing this idea everywhere. Buy a Google phone and install another OS.

It is completely absurd to fund the exact adversaries you are running away from, while consuming, without contributing a dime, merely a piece of free software. (It is only a small piece of freedom because none of the hardware is free, and some binary blobs [incl. potential backdoors] will still be present in the alternative OS no matter which one it is.)

This is unsustainable, terrible, damaging advice. Stop giving it.

mihor,

Well, the only viable alternative then seems to be some sort of Linux phone, then.

unexpectedteapot, (edited )

Fairphone, Librem, PinePhone, f(x)tec, etc. are available alternatives, yes.

Even a OnePlus is better than directly funding and supporting the adversary organisation that is one of the biggest surveillance capitalism corporations on earth.

mihor,

Fair point, I suppose the only thing preventing me from going for Linux phone are banking apps which want to run on unrooted android. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Boring,

Buy a pixel off marketplace then. You can brag about saving e-waste.

Google isn’t a bad company, just a product of poor regulation. They have amazing engineers and produce valuable hardware and that should be praised.

Its the business side of things which needs massive regulation and an ethics check.

unexpectedteapot, (edited )

It is not about “bragging” or whatever. Nor is it about “bad” or “good”.

By funding or promoting the use of Google products, you would be funding litigation and influence such as lobbying to keep poor regulation as it is, if not worse. You would be funding their acquisitions of great tech and startups that might offer a more ethical and/or free technology. You would be funding their poaching of said engineers and valuable hardware intellectual property.

Simply put, it is a counterproductive and an unsustainable practice.

That being said, their amazing engineers, and technical value of their hardware are irrelevant to this community, post and comment. That simply doesn’t excuse their entire business model being built on breaches of privacy and other forms of curbing user freedoms.

thayer,

The bottom line is that GrapheneOS is the most security-focused mobile operating system available, and the Google Pixel is pretty well the only mainstream phone with an unlockable bootloader.

If Alphabet were to ever lock down the Pixel’s bootloader, the GOS devs would undoubtedly jump ship to a lesser available platform in order to continue the project. But until then, no other hardware comes close with respect to embedded security.

PanaX, in Next smartphone I buy, which one do you recommend?

Just a tip, you can debloat your galaxy without rooting it with adb tools. You can remove any apps you want this way fairly easily.

Not a long term solution, and all the other comments are great options for replacement. Until then, you can remove almost anything you want until you’re ready to switch.

lemmyingly,

The none root method that you mentioned is just removing the application from your profile. It’s still present in the OS.

PanaX,

I don’t think that’s true. From XDA forums, you can choose to disable the app or completely remove it. I have completely destroyed the system from uninstalling critical apps. I have had to do a complete factory reset due to uninstalling core apps. No root whatsoever.

lemmyingly,

I’ve read it a few times over the years. Maybe I keep reading people say the same misinformation. I suppose without root we’ll never know.

Your anecdotal evidence could just be that you’ve ruined your profile; although of course, you could be entirely correct.

I’ve only used it to remove annoying apps, e.g. Facebook. I’ve never gone crazy with it as I don’t care about the manufacturer’s pre-installed apps as they’ve remained silent for me.

Maeve, in Facebook Watches Teens Online As They Prep for College – The Markup
Maeve, in Facebook Watches Teens Online As They Prep for College – The Markup

Gotta see what demographics are doing what so they can hoard power, wealth, status.

Steamymoomilk, in Facebook Watches Teens Online As They Prep for College – The Markup

Spooky facebook doing spooky things

ShortN0te, in filen.io - one time payment plans - encrypted cloud storage

Do not trust it to be lifetime and do not trust it to be e2e.

Always use your own OSS encryption on top of it and never trust it to be lifetime. They can not promise you to be lifetime since they can not promise they are still in business in 5 years.

TheSun,

This is literally client-side encryption using fully open source programs… If you “do not trust it to be e2e”, verify the code yourself. Doing your own encryption on top would be redundant.

LWD, (edited ) in Is it better to use a non-FOSS email and phone number forwarder or to use one of each for everything?

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  • _s10e,

    Which of those work for phone numbers (SMS validation)? Email is easy.

    plz1, in filen.io - one time payment plans - encrypted cloud storage

    “Cloud” + “lifetime” are not a real thing. Caveat emptor.

    TheSun, (edited )

    Lifetime is implied to be the lifetime of the company as is the case with LITERALLY EVERYTHING.

    From an economic view: In this case as soon as you hit 13 months without filen going bankrupt you are literally free compared to the 200GB plan with Google Drive which you would still be stuck paying $4 CAD/month for 200GB long after the lifetime plan has paid for itself (assuming they don’t increase monthly rates as time goes on, which they always do).

    Go ahead and pay monthly if you want but you’ll be in exactly the same position if a company goes under, except you would have paid a hell of a lot more than 35 Euro by that point.

    ksyko, (edited ) in Time to ditch #duckduckgo

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  • DetectiveSanity,

    This was first page. Around 10-15 mark.

    thebardingreen, (edited ) in private browsers wiki im working on
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    Pretty sure you’re getting downvoted because people hate Brave and you seem to have put it at the top of your list. People hate the company and founder (with good reason) and the scammy crypto aspect. However, the browser consistently gets top tier ratings on it’s privacy implementation (from a technical perspective). I personally have mixed feelings about it. If you MUST use a chromium based browser (and sometimes I must) Brave is an obvious choice (again, from a technical perspective).

    dummy,

    brave is on top 'cause i dont really have a order of adding them

    and if i moved it down it still wouldn’t really make a difference

    dummy, (edited )

    there, edited it a bit

    edit: < stinky doo doo

    majestictechie, in Privacy benefits of Custom roms

    The OS itself is private because it’s DeGoogled. I also installed GApps because I wanted the convinence of the App store and core feature I’ve been used to for so long.

    I also knew the moment I did the google-fication privacy was out the window.

    I was fine with LineageOS and would happily go back when my Pixel7a becomes EOL.

    PupBiru, (edited ) in Why Bluesky over sth like Activitypub?
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    i hope that everyone realises that the benefit of activitypub has nothing to do with mastodon taking to mastodon, lemmy talking to lemmy, etc but the strength is tooting a reply to a peertube video and having a discussion on lemmy in which all these comments are shared

    … bluesky has none of this

    however, what bluesky has:

    • (currently) the sign up process is easy: you don’t need to understand federation or why to choose a server - you just… register
    • honestly, more people interact in the circles that i’m in (no; it’s not furry: i hear though that their population has exploded though) critical mass is more important than anything for a social platform
    • custom feeds are legit cool af… i don’t have time to filter posts and we can’t expect people to add their own metadata; i want code to do it for me! its like “the algorithm” is now many and you can choose which one depending on your mood… also if you don’t like it you can choose a whole new one that some random 3rd party wrote, or make one yourself

    none of that is intrinsic to bsky, or will remain in the long-term i think (federation implies needing a more complex sign-up process)

    ninpnin,

    Tbh no ads + open source is what draws me to activity pub. Nothing about a microblogging service is groundbreaking in 2023 anyway.

    Dark_Arc,
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    I disagree… Have you ever actually seen this work, even remotely well?

    Like the way replies work, particularly when you’re mixing threaded and linear responses (i.e., Lemmy and Mastodon) is just a mess.

    Ferk, (edited )
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    I expect it would be technically possible to have lemmy-like or peertube-like services built on top of the AT protocol Bluesky uses, like with ActivityPub. And I expect if/when that happens the communication across services would probably work too.

    In fact, accounts being “portable” in the AT protocol can potentially make the integration more seamless across different services, not only might the posts be seen from different services, but you might be able to directly access those different services with the same account. Imagine if you could login in lemmy with a mastodon account or vice-versa.

    Bluesky is just one of the possible services. But as long as the invites are private and you can’t host your own instance, I wouldn’t even consider it an alternative. I think it’s a bit early to judge, both its positives and its negatives.

    maegul,
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    It seems BlueSky have explicit plans for their protocol to extend to all types of platforms: atproto.com/blog/building-on-atproto#what-to-expe…

    Which means they’re coming for the fediverse, and may just succeed.

    maegul,
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    I was going to say the same but don’t know enough about BlueSky’s ATProtocol to be sure about the possibilities.

    In principle, you’d hope they’ve added enough flexibility on there for different platform types. If they have, next year could get interesting as they open up federation. There seems to be a bit of buzz and interest around BlueSky, and if they garner the interest of enough developers who feel like they can make new things on the platform/protocol, then new things could happen and, if they attract a sizeable Twitter migration, go kinda mainstream pretty quickly.

    maegul,
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    the strength is tooting a reply to a peertube video and having a discussion on lemmy in which all these comments are shared

    I’m with you. The problem is that this promise is mostly empty, at least at the moment.

    ActivityPub, from what I’ve gleaned, is too vague and open ended and under-developed in terms of software for this to be true. The result is that each platform is implementing a sub-set of the protocol and often adding their own custom twists/additions to it. Which means that just because two platforms use ActivityPub does not mean at all that those two platforms can communicate in anyway. And, even if they can communicate, there’s no guarantee at all that this will be usable.

    The interaction between lemmy and mastodon is illustrative. Technically they can communicate, and at times this can work well. But the two platforms are hardly mutually enriching each other because the interactions between them are fairly limited in number. And that’s because they don’t talk to each other well. Some of that is because they’ve implemented different parts of the protocol. Some of it is also their differences in design and UI/UX that just add too much friction to consuming and meaningfully interacting with content from the other platform.

    What’s more, this problem is fairly predictable and has been criticised as a false promise in the past. At the moment, I’d say it’s fair to say that ActivityPub has not been proven as a way to enable communication between substantially different platforms. That might change over time, though I suspect the load on developers to make that happen will remain high without some major foundational work.

    But right now, unless there’s something I don’t know/understand, I don’t see the extra-platform capabilities of ActivityPub playin any role in the success of the fediverse in competition with BlueSky, at least as far as Mastodon is concerned which, as a platform, is relatively happy just doing its own thing.

    sab,
    @sab@kbin.social avatar

    I quite disagree. Of course interoperability is not going to be a perfect one to one - that's in the nature of these being different services. You don't want threads from a link aggregater taking over your microblogging feed.

    Yet it's normal for Mastodon users to join in on the conversation here. From their perspective they never left Mastodon - from my perspective, I never left kbin - and you, for your part, think it's all happening within Lemmy. But it's really not. So these things happen all the time, it's just that you don't necessarily notice unless you check the domain of the person you're responding to. Mastodon users of course often leave in the @-tags, making them a bit easier to identify.

    Lemmy is a bit more isolated than Kbin, as it is not integrating microblogs at all. That's a decision on the side of the developers, not a weakness of the ActivityPub protocol.

    maegul,
    @maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

    Yet it’s normal for Mastodon users to join in on the conversation here.

    Well, as neither of us are presenting or citing data on this, we can’t be sure.

    Personally I care about this and keep a bit of a lookout for it and have in the past tried to advocate for and create more cross-platform talk. In my experience, and from what I’ve heard from others, the UX friction from the mastodon end makes it mostly a dead end. So while some cross talk certainly happens, I’d estimate it’s quite minor and meaningless in so far as we’re talking about it as a salient strength of ActivityPub compared to its competitor ATProto.

    That’s a decision on the side of the developers, not a weakness of the ActivityPub protocol.

    What this misses is whether the protocol makes it easier or harder for developers to ”decide” to allow for more inter-platform cross talk. Part of my critique was that the protocol and its general design isn’t making this easier. Kbin, for instance, doesn’t truly support microblogging. And the lemmy devs have acknowledged that allowing users to be followed like communities would be good but is just too hard right now.

    The question then is whether the protocol could have made this easier for platform devs, either through its design or through providing fundamental tooling that enables developers more and removed the need for constant wheel-reinvention. From what I’ve heard from actual developers working with the protocol, they’re real technical critiques to be made around how hard it is to work with. So I believe that it isn’t helping anyone interested in making something new and interesting with it (which has yet to be done IMO, though kbin gets close ).

    sab,
    @sab@kbin.social avatar

    What do you mean kbin doesn't really support microblogging?

    The only real issue I can think of right now is that it does not display videos or polls yet, but for being an early version of a software developed primarily by one guy as a hobby project those are pretty minor omissions.

    maegul,
    @maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

    What do you mean kbin doesn’t really support microblogging?

    I could be wrong about this … but as I understand, you can’t see a feed of microblogs/posts from people that you follow. Instead everything is viewed through magazines, which pickup microblogs but combine them with the ordinary threadiverse content posted to those magazines. Following people and viewing their personal posts is, I’d say, the essence of microblogging.

    Not a criticism of kbin at all BTW … easily the youngest platform on the fediverse but doing quite well it seems with already a fork that’s doing well too (mbin).

    ernest,
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    Hi @maegul, actually you can track people you follow in the /sub feed at https://kbin.social/sub/microblog. It might seem a bit chaotic, with what looks like random posts, but in reality, each of them has a response from someone you follow (or an boost post/comment). But you're right, it's not perfect yet, and the presentation will be improved in the coming weeks/months to highlight specific comments from people you follow on front. I'll probably write about it in my devlog soon ;)

    ernest,
    @ernest@kbin.social avatar

    I will also separate this feed with the ability to track only users, excluding communities.

    sab,
    @sab@kbin.social avatar

    The option to keep followed users and subscribed communities separate in the feed will be great!
    Really impressed by the pace of progress lately - it's very much appreciated. You're building something special here. :)

    ernest,
    @ernest@kbin.social avatar

    We're building this together, I just add a few extra lines of code to it all ;-)

    ContentConsumer9999,

    Could you maybe give users the ability to exclude certain communities/hashtags? Some hashtags associated with communities like seem to be overused to the point that following it barely filters content.

    maegul,
    @maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

    Thanks Ernest!! Hope you’re going well and kbin development isn’t too much of a burden!!

    I’ve seen that view before, and just checked it now again. It still feels like there’s more in the feed than should be. I’m probably missing some of the boosts etc that you cite, but it feels to me like some posts are coming in without it being clear why they’re there. My guess has always been that my subscriptions are playing a role somehow.

    Anyway, hope the new changes go well!! And thanks for the response!

    secret_ninja, (edited ) in filen.io - one time payment plans - encrypted cloud storage
    1. this sounds like a disguised ad…
    2. the monthly pricing doesn’t make sense, it’s too low for them to be sustainable as business, especially considering the offered features.
    3. any cloud storage company that offers lifetime plans should not be taken seriously.
    4. the only positive here is that their FE apps are open source.
    TheSun, (edited )
    1. You can’t read can you? I literally explained my reasoning for posting it as it ties into a previous discussion I saw here. You are welcome to check my posting history if you want to see I’m just a regular dude interested in tech and privacy.

    2. the pricing makes perfect sense when you stop defending companies massively overcharging for cloud storage given physical storage costs. Keep in mind it will likely increase since generally companies increase pricing as they age/eliminate the lifetime option once the user base has grown enough.

    3. so pcloud shouldn’t be taken seriously? Not sure why you are simping for subscriptions so bad; they are a bane on modern society. Subscription-model is not the only viable business model (companies including online ones were profitable for decades before it became commonplace) and I would argue it is worse for the user in almost every circumstance.

      We should be supporting businesses that reject the subscription-model, not avoiding them.

    4. Yes.

    scottmeme, in Next smartphone I buy, which one do you recommend?

    Google Pixel or Nothing phone

    Octagon9561,

    Sure, the Nothing phone is a decent phone but it doesn’t really have anything to offer as far as privacy and security are concerned. On the contrary, I wouldn’t trust Nothing since their iMessage fiasco.

    Wes_Dev,

    I’ve never heard of this company before the past week, and I’m seeing it everywhere now. I’m also really annoyed with this trend of companies appropriating random fucking words instead of using actual names.

    scottmeme,

    Yeah the whole iMessage thing wasn’t really what I cared about, given that it’s not a great look for them.

    More so all the ex-oneplus talent that they have on staff to make a good quality product.

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