Nmill11b

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Nmill11b, (edited )

Interestingly this may work, but I’m not sure anyone has studied it (perhaps I will do a lit search).

There’s erectile tissue in the inferior turbinates that is responsible for the nasal cycle… maybe after an emission it’s more flaccid?

Sadly I do not suffer from inferior turbinate hypertroohy/ alternating nasal obstruction to test this on myself.

Edit: This has been studied… I now have one more option in the “medical management” toolbox

doi.org/10.1177/0145561320981441

Nmill11b,

Yeah, inferior turbinate reduction is the next small step for this. Often if it’s just alternating nasal obstruction that’s good enough. Oftentimes there’s another component of nasal valve collapse or septal deviation. Personally, in my population, I end up doing septorhinoplasty (nose job) way more often than other smaller nasal surgery.

You don’t want them to actually remove the turbinates, however. We generally just shrink them down – removing them makes the nasal air less turbulent, and difficult to sense airflow. TL;DR it make look like you can drive a semi truck through the nose, but people will feel like they cannot breathe at all. People have killed themselves over this.

Nmill11b,

The best shitposts are the ones that turn out to be real/useful.

Nmill11b,

True; I, and I’m sure most other physicians would not provide identifiable data in a public forum. If you are having issues with nasal obstruction, alternating or otherwise., best advice is to follow up with your pcm for treatment, possible referral.

Nmill11b, (edited )

It can happen, but the way most ENTs train these days, unlikely. I’ve seen it twice that I recall off the top of my head, but very rare these days.

Most ENTs, including myself, are overly cautious. You’re at a higher risk for symptom recurrence because of under resection.

That being said, I wouldn’t let an oral surgeon or general plastic surgeon touch my family member’s nose (unless they had a very very good reputation). Nothing wrong with their work, I’m just not sure they had the same training and respect for the nose.

Nmill11b,

It would by a sympathetic response from catecholamines – that’s how it constricts; however, I didn’t know that it had been studied and was actually effective in real life until today.

Nmill11b,

Nosebleeds can happen and certainly do for some. Nasal hydration helps (for instance, ayr gel in combination with saline spray or irrigations). Ultimately, a good portion of patients that don’t tolerate or fail nasal steroids get surgery.

Azelaetine is fantastic - there’s a lot of patients I prescribe it in conjunction with Flonase. Allergic rhinitis or even just excessive secretions is common in patients with inferior turbinate hypertroph/nasal obstruction, and both meds have a function. They sell it as a combination, actually, but often insurance doesn’t cover the combo.

Nmill11b,

Yes, those are the best fo sure

Nmill11b,

This is called the nasal cycle.

Use Flonase to help (need daily use for >= 4 weeks) If this doesn’t help enough, you should see an ENT.

Fun fact: the turbinates in the nose (which are responsible for the nasal cycle) have erectile tissue in them.

Source: your friendly neighborhood Otolaryngologist

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