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Th4tGuyII, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)
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Truly the dichotomy of man

Th4tGuyII, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)
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The meme refers to the problem of handling implicit multiplication by juxtaposition.
Depending on what field you're in, implicit multiplication takes priority over explicit multiplication/division (known as strong juxtaposition) rather than what you and a lot of people would assume (known as weak juxtaposition).

With weak juxtaposition you end up 9 just as you did, but with strong juxtaposition you end up with 1 instead.

For most people and most scenarios this doesn't matter, as you'd never encounter such ambiguous equations outside of viral puzzles like this, but it is worth knowing that not all fields agree on how implicit multiplication is handled.

Th4tGuyII, (edited ) to memes in 6÷2(1+2)
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So you were taught strong juxtaposition then, where the implicit multiplication takes priority?

Th4tGuyII, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.

I'm just saying, if you really believe that to be the case, Good luck.

Th4tGuyII, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)
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That's rich considering what sparked this conversation was you refusing to answer a simple question.

Good luck to you too - with reading comprehension like your's, you might just need it.

Th4tGuyII, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)
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When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.

You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...

But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.

Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.

In all honesty, I think you're acting like the people who say things like "I've never used algebra, so it was worthless teaching me it as a kid" as though there aren't people who would learn something out of this.

Th4tGuyII, (edited ) to memes in 6÷2(1+2)
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I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.

But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.

The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?

However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.

Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.

Th4tGuyII, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)
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@relevants you truly are the smartest of all men

Th4tGuyII, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)
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They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.

Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.

Th4tGuyII, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)
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Unfortunately these types of viral problems are designed the attract people who think they "know it all", so convincing them that their chosen answer isn't as right as they think it is will always be an uphill challenge

Th4tGuyII, (edited ) to memes in 6÷2(1+2)
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The answer realistically is determined by where you place implicit multiplication (or "multiplication by juxtaposition") in the order of operations.

Some place it above explicit multiplication and division, meaning it gets done before the division giving you an answer of 1

But if you place it as equal to it's explicit counterparts, then you'd sweep left to right giving you an answer of 9

Since those are both valid interpretations of the order of operations dependent on what field you're in, you're always going to end up with disagreements on questions like these...

But in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and even if they did, there would usually be some kind of context (I.e. units) to guide you as to what the answer should be.

Edit: Just skimmed that article, and it looks like I did remember the last explanation I heard about these correctly. Yay me!

Th4tGuyII, to memes in And now I'm concerned
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Who's to say cows can't be milked in Zootopia?
If you can earn money by donating blood and organs (i.e. part of a kidney or liver), guys can earn money donating sperm, women donating eggs, then why couldn't a Zootopia cow (or other mammals for that matter) donate their milk?

Th4tGuyII, (edited ) to asklemmy in How many tabs do you have open?
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Legitimate question - just how do you accumulate 5K tabs? Did you just never close any tabs, like ever?

Th4tGuyII, to risa in Stanley Kubrick is a magician
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Ah, I see this is one of those little differences between KBin and Lemmy.

This is what I see...

So you guys see that first one as just the GIF and not that massive URL that we see.

Th4tGuyII, (edited ) to risa in Stanley Kubrick is a magician
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