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abff08f4813c,

Ideally there would have been a way to merge threads and preserve the comments from both. Too late now I guess, but something to keep in mind next time something like this happens I suppose..

finding deleted info from Reddit.

If you Google something and the results you need is on a reddit page but you’re unable to view for any reason, such as the user deleting the post or the sub going dark, there is a work around to get the info you need. Copy the link from Google and In your web browsers search bar/ URL bar type Cache: followed by the URL you...

abff08f4813c,

Which browsers have you tested this with? Interested to see which browsers do not support the above trick.

If you happen to be using one of those btw, you can still do this, just go to duckduckgo and put in the !cache followed by the url and duckduckgo will take you there.

Also, if archive.is doesn't have a saved copy of a page, it includes a link to google's cache.

abff08f4813c,

Sure, and that's a problem. r/politics was too US centric which eventually drove the creation of other subs like r/animie_titties

There are (or were) a lot of corners that were an exception to the rule, for example I don't think that anyone would argue that r/de was very USian.

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the same way api protesters reddit thinks they are entitled to having reddit bend to their will api protesters give them free money for nothing after taking away the apps that make reddit bearable

there, fixed that for you

abff08f4813c,

Their admins fight over who does what to whom and apparently they close subs then threaten themselves demanding that they reopen them.

What? Where and when did this happen?

abff08f4813c,

Apologies for any typos or bad formatting, I ran up against the 5000 character limit, and tried to edit down - and the 'more' popup actually pops under the next comment in my browser. I'm sure I could fix it somehow, but I believe everything is still intelligible.

No worries, it's intelligble, and I get it as I got hit by the same thing.

I disagree with your latter point.

Okay, but I don't think you've adaquately explained why.

kbin.social has hit a reasonable mass of users to have a strong local community and become a platform unto itself, running on kbin software.

But it can also join with older, more established communities on lemmy instances like lemmy.world and the two can share content with each other. From a kbin.social account I can fully participate on lemmy.world bar two exceptions (owning a lemmy.world magazine and being a lemmy.world admin), and the reverse is equally true. Hence why I view lemmy/kbin as essentially a single platform.

In your case, "local" seems to mean central to the server. But why is this an inherently important attribute?

I'm not interested in a smaller community.

Again, the point of federation - the different parts (instances) merge into a single platform and community. Each instance hosts a smaller part of the whole community, instead of needing a megacorp capable of hosting the entire one on a single set of servers. Ideally, seamlessly, but in practice I admit there are still some rough edges to work out (e.g. multimagazine support).

There might be a point here when dealing with magazine fragmentation - but reddit has the same problem to a degree and we can borrow their solution (multireddits/multimagazines) to resolve that issue here as well.

I joined Reddit because it was the largest single-site community on the Web. I want the monolithic community, and I accept the costs that incurs, including ads or ad-first design.

Yes, but why? This is the part that is yet to be explained. I think the dangers of single-site centralization have already been demonstrated (e.g. loss of 3rd party apps, mods losing their subs when protesting, folks getting permabans for no apparent reason or for obviously incorrect reasons, etc.)

I don't care about the difference between Mastodo, kbin, & Lemmy. They're web software which are trying to replace a monolith, and have seen imited success.

Following this to the extreme, you shouldn't want to use either twitter or reddit, because they can't talk to each other. Right? (Okay, single sign on is possible, but after that you still have to interact with their websites and apps separately.)

The fediverse lacks the first mover advantage of being born in the ninties or early aughts and also lacks big megacorp backing, but it has seen bigger growth than single site replacements like Squabbles or Tildes, and I suspect federation is a big driver of the difference there.

Right now, the fediverse is just fragments at the foot of the tower of Babel, each speaking a separate tongue, even if some are intelligible to others.

Except that they all speak the same language (ActivityPub) and differ from big monoliths like twitter and reddit that can't talk to anyone else. So from an intelligibility perspective they are a step up.

I don't care about political leanings. I'm talking about a UX issue. If you want to defed from a site, and receive no more content, then so be it, that's the right of an Admin.

Seconded.

For those in the know about privacy laws and the such. What is a proper response to reddit's claim that they cannot remove all the information associated to an account without first the user removing all of their posts? (kbin.social)

As the title says, Reddit replied to my GDPR request to delete all my data saying I had to do it first, which I suspect is in violation of GDPR law....

abff08f4813c,

With the API shutting down, I believe there is no longer an automated way to delete all content.

Actually, the API hasn't shut down. It's just you get a bill if you go over 100 api calls per minute, but existing scripts like github shreddit can be easily modified to include a builtin delay to prevent that from happening. Alternatively you can pay shreddit.com $15 to do this for you and not worry about it (they use their own API key i figure though I don't know the specifics, but I imagine they have a setup that prevents them from going over the limit as well).

I rushed in a bit of a panic to get all of my stuff deleted, not even waiting for the response to my data retrieval request (see https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/65260/PSA-Here-s-exactly-what-to-do-if-you-hit-the ) before I realized this.

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As psychopomp pointed out this is wrong. (Or at least, "unsettled" - meaning that unless you are sitting on big pots of money and are happy to pay up to the gov't if the courts decide against you - you should play it safe.) See https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/34112/Updated-Reddit-is-quietly-restoring-deleted-AND-overwritten-posts-and#entry-comment-140833 - for what it's worth, folks from pre-Musk Twitter who looked into this issue determined that tweets basically did fall under the GDPR.

See also https://mstdn.games/@chris/110553477682106144 https://www.wired.co.uk/article/delete-twitter-dms-gdpr https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/08/elon-musk-twitter-dm-deletion/

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Now all this content is unhelpful because the sub is private

You could try sending a modmail to see if the mod will give you access to the sub so you can see your own content, or send you a copy of a specific post or comment.

or the original question context was deleted.

One thing to note is that this happened all the time on reddit as folks either deleted their question and throwaway account as soon as they got their answer. Other times folks would ask with their main account but used something like shreddit once a month. So this isn't exactly new to the protest.

When I move my content to its new home, I usually avoid naming the questioner and I briefly summarize their question/responses. This way the content has the added context to be understandable.

If the post is from Feb of this year or older and you forgot the context but want to save the content, you can search for the post in the pushshift torrents - if it was deleted as part of the protest then the pushshift torrent will have the original content in it and you can restore the context that way.

This really bums me out that all this energy and effort has gone to waste.

Additional effort is required to do what I do, but the result is that the effort has not gone to waste, instead folks who want it can view it on the fediverse.

There is something to be said about abandoning and moving on without burning the bridges in the process,

From my POV reddit burned those bridges.

rendering not only your content as useless,

It's not useless, it now serves to move people away from reddit. Remember, with reddit you never know when you will be permabanned - it seems to happen entirely at random nowadays.

but other people's as well

Mostly I've only seen three categories of this.

  1. A throwaway or an account not logged into for a while. The owner if still alive probably doesn't have the access to move it away anymore anyways.
  2. Content that is still present under "[deleted]" - person got hit by a 1k limit or something and missed deleting that before deleting the account.
  3. Content from a mod, who has't moved off yet as they're trying to hold onto the sub for the protest.

I figure I'm better off moving my content with context anyways, since that prevents the person in 1. or 3. from coming back and confusing the context.

The other thing I do when commenting is quoting extensively, that way the context is clear from my own comments.

abff08f4813c,

More the second one. I joined that lemmy sub using my kbin

Any good scripts that will mass edit your reddit comments?

I want to change all my reddit comments to say I'm migrating to Lemmy/Kbin. I think this is more effective than deleting comments, as I've heard rumors reddit is restoring deleted comments. I can't find a good script to do that. What's everyone else using to do that? Thanks!...

abff08f4813c,

As others have said, PDS is a good choice as it avoids a need to use the API. (It does depend on old dot reddit dot com however, but that's not going away tomorrow.)

Do keep this in mind however, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/47320/PSA-If-you-have-more-than-1000-posts-more-than

In short you need to request and get the GDPR/CCPA archive from reddit to make sure you wipe everything. (Some folks can live with just wiping out their top posts and comments however, for which PDS is perfectly fine.)

The downside is that afaik there's no way to feed that archive to PDS. You'll need to use an API using script like shreddit to edit everything.

You can see what I did: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/65260/PSA-Here-s-exactly-what-to-do-if-you-hit-the

If you do decide to put in a data retrieval request, there's a timeline tracker: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/50981/Reddit-Data-Retrieval-Request-timeline-thread

abff08f4813c,

Thank you for your service! This is exactly what we need.

abff08f4813c,

Very smart! In a way this is good news. It suggests that editing to overwrite is effective - you aren't seeing your old content restored, but the edited version. Agree with the ridiculousness of having to delete again and again.

abff08f4813c,

Agreed. I just tried to state what they said - in my defense i never said that what they said made sense because as you just said it doesn't really make sense.

abff08f4813c,

Yup. Count myself as one of the eye rollers.

abff08f4813c,

Wish I could participate in that. It's too late for me, sadly, I already did a mass delete.

abff08f4813c,

Sadly, at the moment, they do not. https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/94785/Can-t-view-delete-comments-after-7-months#entry-comment-402774

Several folks here have reported this noncompliance to their gov't and i expect an epic showdown where reddit gets its behind handed to it, but that's likely some years away.

The important thing is to get people to be aware of this. A lot of folks seem to delete their accounts and then, too late, be caught by surprise that nothing they wrote is deleted - and now cannot be removed.

Some folks do the right thing, but then get surprised when it turns out that redact.dev or shreddt.com or Power Delete Suite failed to delete all of their comments for various reasons.

We shouldn't let reddit get away with this.

abff08f4813c,

I do. I see the same thing as OP. I think what happened is this was a post from a sub that was private when OP deleted the account, but went public after. Or maybe a really old one that was somehow past the visibility limit. But yeah the comment is still there - and now uneditable and undeletable.

abff08f4813c,

Oops. To clarify, these are anonymous posts on teamblind dot com, not on reddit itself. Then someone on r/ModCoord reposted this there.

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And why did it shut down and have to be replaced by r/196 ?

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