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ericbomb,

Where in the WORLD did you hear that bit of propaganda?

agriculturefairnessalliance.org/…/2020-farm-subsi…

scet.berkeley.edu/…/CopyofFINALSavingThePlanetSus…

www.aier.org/…/the-true-cost-of-a-hamburger/

ewg.org/…/usda-livestock-subsidies-near-50-billio…

I can’t even find any source saying more money is spent on any crop than on beef. It seems like it’s totally made up. The numbers vary because it’s hard to pin down, but I can’t find a source saying anything besides “most subsidiaries go towards beef and dairy”

ericbomb,

Oh yeah I 100% spend less on food as a vegetarian, because black beans/lentils are such wonderful cheap sources of protein.

But sometimes I want like the premade like meat crumbles or burgers, and those cost more usually.

ericbomb,

I mean a pound of beef costs $4.

A pound of raw lentils like a $1.

Lentils are more calorie dense.

Lentils are more protein dense.

Black beans are in similar camp.

Rice and wheat products are cheaper per calorie, but lack the protein.

So yeah, it’s just cheaper to be a vegetarian, even with massive beef subsidiaries. But veggie patties are still more expensive because of processing and they are smaller batches.

ericbomb,

I think you should read more carefully what that chart is showing.

Corn for example is purple and gray mostly.

Purple = live stock feed gray = biodiesel

Soy is mostly purple, so most of it goes towards feeding live stock.

So most of the subsidiary is just being spent to make it cheaper to raise live stock.

ericbomb,

You are correct, because barely any actually goes to corn we eat. Those subsidies exist just to make it cheaper to raise live stock. So while direct subsidies are higher for corn, it’s so high purely to help raise live stock. Just because we “can” eat corn doesn’t really impact the fact that we aren’t, it’s mostly live stock eating the corn the subsidies are paying for (And biofuel)

ericbomb,

Oh well yes.

If it wasn’t obvious I’m a raging vegetarian. Just annoying.

ericbomb,

I don’t think you understand what class warfare is.

The fact that it’s co-opted by rich people as trying to convince you that environmental disasters they cause is your problem doesn’t change any points made by actual vegans, or the fact that it’s far far cheaper. Even with all the subsidies given out, a pound of black beans/lentils has more calories/protein than a pound of beef, and will cost 1/5 the price. Sure if I want to splurge and buy a premade veggie burger it’s more expensive, but generally it’s just way more affordable.

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