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trailing9,

What else can be done besides talking to other parents to change it? There should be motivation to change it, at least for the next generation.

trailing9,

It’s interesting that parents prefer to maintain their own space.

trailing9,

What I meant with the lack of industrialization is that those revolutions could be fought with rifles. Today you need tanks and drones. Any revolution is interrupted by cutting global supply lines.

Cooperatives don’t have to be dominant. It could be that people prefer to work in classical hierarchies. There should just be so many cooperatives that whoever wants to live a socialist life can find a place to do so.

I indeed believe that revolution is not needed. There is no unified capital owning class. If you don’t change the political system and let them have their power, why should they waste resources on fighting cooperatives?

trailing9,

Does difficulty matter? Any communist revolution will be more difficult than establishing a network of cooperatives. I believe that if there is a desire for Socialism, people will spend the time to establish cooperatives.

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You can’t tell because I am arguing.for a position that communists somehow want to ignore.

For a communist revolution today the means of production are already necessary. Russia and China were possible because they were not industrialized.

Are there capitalist relations within a cooperative? If not then why do you need a revolution when everything is already there?

trailing9,

Ok, you were convinced. I mean the search for how to finance cooperatives should only be done when investors don’t hesitate to buy cooperative bonds.

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No I haven’t.

But I expect that the search for people who want to participate in an expanding cooperative is the bigger problem.

Do you know of a cooperative that wants to issue bonds?

trailing9,

It’s not new but also not tried in a convincing way.

I believe that it is possible and that it’s worth trying until a working combination is found.

trailing9,

What can you do with a communist revolution that you cannot do with cooperatives, apart from using violence?

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We simply talk about different things. Initial funding comes with different risks.

I think established cooperatives should issue bonds for expansion.

New cooperatives cannot issue bonds because nobody can judge the risk. They have to do a startup and sell shares in a company that owns the assets. But why should the founders limit themselves and do the opposite of Zuckerberg and give their influence away by just owning one vote in the participating cooperative?

trailing9,

There is…

trailing9,

It’s fight club 2.0

If they are not allowed to question the fabric of their culture, their mind finds another way to compensate.

trailing9,

Technically, shouldn’t there be no reason to go to war?

trailing9,

Find friends and turn it into

We just need to make more money

trailing9,

In theory it’s one lemmy submission away

trailing9,

Find the other people who don’t want to have problems and solve your problems together.

trailing9,

OP is dressed all white like a sheep, that could give you a hint

trailing9,

Do you know who is running piped.video?

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I can only answer as capitalist. FIRE relies on accumulated interest. For workers it should be the same if 10 billionaires or 100,000 FIRE investors own their companies.

UBI should be fairer.

Both scenarios are the same. Work 20 years hard and then stop working.

The FIRE owner have an interest in low wages for the workers whereas in UBI, more income for workers could mean more to be shared.

trailing9,

One person has a limit to the complexity that they can control. You need the masses and a working state to control other billionaires. Only then will you be able reach new levels of complex production processes that allow to do new things.

Of course, for some it is fulfilling to just be at the top.

trailing9,

That’s where I say you are a lemmy dancing to the music.

You are lamenting the current system. You believe there is a free housing market when there is none. You think of the current system when I argue that voting must be used to make a change.

The system is not working because the lemmies are dancing. Not believing in change is the music.

trailing9,

How would you manage risk?

The capitalists invest their profits in new ventures. Good capitalists choose often what is needed, bad capitalists constantly lose money and stop being capitalists.

You want to reward good decisions. So those with profitable investments should get all returns so that they can make more good investments.

So don’t set a limit but tax their income proportionally.

trailing9,

Let’s call the capitalists on the yachts billionaires.

I am defending the capitalistic view that markets are key to wealth distribution. Socialists and communists agree. That’s why they want to replace them.

My point is that there needs to be competition on all markets. There must be enough housing that rent becomes cheap.

For that to happen, lemmies have to vote for politicians who change zoning laws to allow cheap housing.

Instead I see lemmies having fun with revolutions, new technologies and debates about the inclusion of anarchists. Those are all beautiful dancing partners but they won’t reduce rent because there won’t be a revolution.

trailing9,

Does this help you to understand the why? Trauma is such a loaded word that any official definition is strongly limited in its expressiveness. Where can I find the definitions that work?

trailing9,

Yes, opioid addiction but not entirely ignoring the others.

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