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wischi, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

Did you read the blog post?

wischi, (edited ) to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

Ooh now I get you, sry. True. But sadly you now know the truth and you have to be careful with the implicit multiplications on your tax forms from now on ;-)

wischi, to memes in ¿¿Que??

Also in German. Word autocorrects that for example.

wischi, to memes in Good thing I don't know how to read music

“die” is probably from a german song. It’s the article for female nouns (or plurals). Couldn’t guess the song though based on those three notes.

wischi, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

All calculators that are listed in the article as following weak juxtaposition would interpreted it that way.

wischi, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

Regarding your first part in general true, but in this case the sheer amount of calculators for both conventions show that this is indeed intended behavior.

Regarding your second point I tried to address that in the “distributive property” section, maybe I need to rewrite it a bit to be more clear.

wischi, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

I still don’t see a number ;-) but you can take a look at the meme to see other people with math degrees shouting at each other.

wischi, (edited ) to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

“when in doubt” is a bit broad but left to right is a great default for operations with the same priority. There is actually a way to calculate in any order if divisions are converted to multiplications (by using the reciprocal value) and subtractions are converted to additions (by negating the value) that requires at least a little bit of math knowledge and experience so it’s typically not taught until later to prevent even more confusion.

For example this: 6 / 2 * 3 can also be rewritten as 6 * 2⁻¹ * 3 and because multiplication is commutative you can now do it in any order for example like 3 * 6 * 2⁻¹

You can also “rearrange” the order without changing the meaning if you move the correct operation (left to the number) with it (should only be done with explicit multiplication)

6 / 2 * 3 into 6 * 3 / 2 (note that I moved the division with the 2)

You can even bring the two to the front. Just remember that left to the six is an “imaginary” (don’t quote me ^^) multiplication. And because we can’t just move “/2” to the beginning we have to insert a one (empty product - check Wikipedia) like so:

1 / 2 * 6 * 3

This also works for addition and subtraction

7 + 8 - 5

You can move them around if you take the operation left to the number with it. With addition the “imaginary” operation at the beginning is a plus sign and the implicit number you use is zero (empty sum - check Wikipedia)

8 - 5 + 7

or like this

0 - 5 + 8 + 7

because with negative numbers you can use the minus sign to indicate negative numbers you can even drop the leading zero like this

-5 + 8 + 7

That’s not really possible with multiplication because “/2” is not a valid notation for “1/2”

wischi, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

I tried to be careful to not suggest that scientist only use strong juxtaposition. They use both but are typically very careful to not write ambiguous stuff and practically never write implicit multiplications between numbers because they just simplify it.

At this point it’s probably to late to really fix it and the only viable option is to be aware why and how this ambiguous and not write it that way.

As stated in the “even more ambiguous math notations” it’s far from the only ambiguous situation and it’s practically impossible (and not really necessary) to fix.

Scientist and engineers also know the issue and navigate around it. It’s really a non-issue for experts and the problem is only how and what the general population is taught.

wischi, (edited ) to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

This meme is specifically about the implicit multiplication because the article it links to is about that too.

But you are right there are a lot more “viral math” things than just the implicit multiplication problems 🤣

wischi, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

Thank you for taking the time reading it.

wischi, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

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wischi, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

You are right the manual isn’t very clear here. My guess is that parentheses are also considered Type B functions. I actually chose those calculators because I have them here and can test things and because they split the implicit multiplication priority. Most other calculators just state “implicit multiplication” and that’s it.

My guess is that the list of Type B functions is not complete but implicit multiplication with parentheses should be considered important enough for it to be documented.

wischi, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

Did you read the blog post? I also quoted the exact same thing.

wischi, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

Thank you so much for taking the time and reading the post. I just fixed the typos, many thanks for pointing them out.

There is nothing really to be embarrassed about and if you look at the comment sections of such viral math posts you can see that you are certainly not the only one. I think that mnemonics that use “MD” and “AS” without grouping like in “PE(MD)(AS)” are really to blame here.

An alternative would be to drop the inverse and only use say multiplication and addition as I suggested with “PEMA” but with “PEMDAS” one basically sets up students for the problem that they think that multiplication comes before division.

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