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The-Anus-King, in did anyone else from the USA grow up being forced to say the pledge to the flag in school?

I grew up in Florida and funnily enough most of the teachers didn’t care, some even encouraged us to think about why we do it and make a decision for ourselves. I’m 28. I’m sure they all moved out of state or got fired by now.

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I had the same issue at the very beginning...try copying the link and pasting it in the browser

cloudless, in did anyone else from the USA grow up being forced to say the pledge to the flag in school?
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As an outsider, I find it very cultish to pledge to a piece of cloth.

FiendishFork,

Since I became an adult I always found it kind of strange. I did not realize just how strange it was until I dropped my son off at Pre-K a little late and walked in to a whole class of 4 year olds hands on hearts mumbling through the pledge. It was sooo eerie.

Unaware7013,

It absolutely is, doubly so because of the added and unneeded "under god" bs that gets shoved into everything...

BraveSirZaphod,
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That's actually relatively recent, which is way, given the meter of the poem, it feels a little shoe-horned in. It was.

I wanna say it was in the 60s or so? Essentially as a way to promote a devout Christian image of America to contrast against the godless Soviets.

BrerChicken,

The pledge was written, by a minister in 1891 without the “under God” part. It was added by Congress in 1954 in the midst of Macarthyism and the Red Scare. In 2002 an appeals court said that forcing public school students to recite it was went against the separation of Church and State, and it was but stayed. The Supreme Court overturned that in 2004, but I think a lot of schools may have dropped it then.

euphoria,
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that was a huge issue i had with it too, but i omitted that so i didnt seem like an edgy tween atheist (though its a 100% valid criticism that i should have included).

euphoria,
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no doubt, i 100% find it very cult-like and disgusting, and i had realized it then too.

CoWizard,

It's very strange. It's a very doublethink cult. The same people who worship the flag will vote to not give health benefits to 9/11 first responders. Those same people will then use american flag napkins.

Ragnell, (edited ) in did anyone else from the USA grow up being forced to say the pledge to the flag in school?
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Yep. It was in the 90s, and after 7th grade we mostly didn't do it anymore (some court ruled it wasn't legal to force us) but we had to sit quietly during the point when we were supposed to be doing in.

EDIT: You are in your 20s, and your teacher yelled at you? He was breaking the law. I bet you remember who it was too. If you see him on social media, I suggest you send him (West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943)) and demand an apology.

https://www.loc.gov/item/usrep319624/

And tell him a veteran told you this.

euphoria, (edited )
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thanks for your reply. this all happened in about 2015.

yes, i remember him clearly. he was also incredibly inappropriate with his female students. I remember an incident where i was walking out of his classroom and he was showing another female student "a joke" where he used siri or something to look up "penis" and show her the results. mine you we were all 11 and 12. everyone called him a pedo. he was coach of the girls soccer team. i wish i could go back and stand up for her and myself, but i was a scared kid.

edit: just looked him up on FB. his face made me feel such dread. he has a kid now, a young girl

Ragnell,
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@euphoria Ugh. Watch him show up in the news at some point in the future.

quirzle,
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Yeah, I vaguely remember it making the news in the 90s, and I stopped standing at that point. I had one teacher tell me once it was "required" that I stand. I just said "no thanks" and continued sitting, and he dropped it.

It wasn't a big protest in my case though. I normally had a CD player stuffed in my belt, and standing made it more likely to fall out and get noticed. I generally avoided standing as much as possible in those days.

Ragnell,
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It looks like there were a bunch of challenges in the 90s that got struck down. https://www.findlaw.com/education/student-rights/the-pledge-of-allegiance-and-legal-challenges-in-education.html An actual lawyer would know more detail, I bet.

quirzle,
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Based on the timing, the 1998 ACLU lawsuit was probably what I was remembering. Would have put me right around my peak pain-in-the-ass years.

Ragnell,
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Me too. Though I remember it a few years earlier than 1998, when I reached 7th grade. Of course I don't think any of my 7-12 teachers cared like the elementary school teachers would have.

frozen, in did anyone else from the USA grow up being forced to say the pledge to the flag in school?
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Yep. Unfortunately, I was raised in a very conservative household and didn’t start questioning those beliefs until college, so I never thought twice about how weird it is to force students to stand up and pledge allegiance to something they literally can not understand the full meaning of.

ThatWeirdGuy1001, in did anyone else from the USA grow up being forced to say the pledge to the flag in school?
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You’d get screamed at by the teacher and more than likely end up getting a stupid long lecture about the importance of patriotism if you refused

Like damn bro sorry y’all haven’t done shit to make me proud except scream at me that I should be proud

euphoria,
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that's essentially what happened. i was so scared and embarrassed at this grown man going off on me for doing nothing except exercising my right to sit.

Phobos, in What is this air compressor part called?

UPDATE: Changed the o-ring and it holds pressure now.

Dufurson, in What is this air compressor part called?
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brass thingy

Phobos, in What is this air compressor part called?

I took it apart to clean, and the o-ring is shot. Will get a new o-ring tomorrow. Thanks for your help everyone!

db2, in What is this air compressor part called?

Looks like a pressure release/safety valve, and yes you can replace it. But it looks like you might want to try cleaning it out first.

mack123,

Agreed, It looks fairly easy to disassemble and clean. I would attempt that before replacing. You may find a YouTube vid or two showing how. Pvc thread tape is your friend. Dirt in the valve will stop it from closings properly as pressure builds.

Minsk_trust, in What is this air compressor part called?

Compressor cold start valve

Supposed to allow air through until certain pressure and then it closes. Basically the opposite of over pressure valve. It allows motor to start without having to build pressure for a few revolutions.

Pretty easy part to replace. Google should find you many.

rockhstrongo, in What is this air compressor part called?
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It looks like it could be a cold start valve.

From Google: “An air compressor cold start valve bleeds air from the compressor head during the first few pump revolutions, reducing torque requirements for starting a motor. This helps the compressor start easier.”

HandsHurtLoL, in Will you caption this meme template?

The Golden Shower water benders have found their next victim.

ChewbaccasClitoris, in Will you caption this meme template?
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Headline: Only One out of Six Children Found to be Properly Hydrated

wagesj45, in Will you caption this meme template?
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Liberals living in a small conservative town.

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