TL;DR consensus is mostly karma is the source of quite a number of problems on Reddit and many people are comfortable with not having them back. There are positives, but the system has to be reworked for it to really work to any capacity that doesn't negatively affect the platform.
Personally, I don't look at karma. I barely even checked other people's user page and I only went on my own page to look for my previous comments.
Based on the prices the Apollo dev was slinging around, I highly doubt Relay will be around even after this guy "figures out" what to charge his users. Unless he's aiming for whales with deep pockets I give it maybe 3-6 months before he also folds. Reddit can also easily move the goal post on Relay, which is inevitable, because Reddit wants people to use thier app.
This is what I'm thinking too. Narwhal is sticking around but once Narwhal 2 comes out it'll be $5-7 per month and more for a user who makes a lot of API calls. If I'm remembering correctly Christian figured it would be close to $10 per month to support Apollo's heavy users without going in the red. That's crazy money to pay for access to Reddit.
Exactly. I want to be empathetic to the dev, after all /u/Spez put them in an awful position. But scabbing for Reddit isn't going to end well. Better to accept that the blow has been dealt, and to move onto the next platform and/or project.
You’re not dumb, kbin isn’t as big of an instance as Lemmy or Mastodon so kbin would be in the “other similar platforms” category. If you like you can imagine the kbin logo and a green plus sign in-front of the Lemmy logo. It is of note that on kbin the “boost” is the true upvote button. The upvote button does show popularity but it won’t “boost” the posts to the front page.
For simplicity, you can just add Kbin.social to the Fediverse cloud in the second row. You’ll see all the same content that we all see, but with a different coat of paint.
Think of it like viewing the Internet with different browsers chrome, Firefox, or Safari.
There are some functional differences to KBin, like the ability to boost, which is like a Twitter retweet, but without getting into the weeds on that stuff, it really is just the same thing with a different interface.
I read that and instantly thought about spez singling out Apollo APL for not being efficient then Christian pulls out all the data to show how efficient it is. Another lie by spez he got called out on
Karma is all about gamification. Made up points to make you feel like your contribution was worth something. You can see it in pretty much all social media platforms.
You never really care about checking others, but I bet you'd probably take a peak from time to time at your own.
I never cared, but I would be lieing if when I post blew up I wouldn't notice all those upvotes.
While I agree with everything you said, it did also serve a tangible purpose on some subreddits as a barrier-of-entry to prevent bots from posting OF spam or whatever or stop new troll accounts from being able to post.
I'll go and look at how my recent comments and submissions are doing, but that's more to get a sense of how my outlook aligns with the outlook of the general readership. And when the alignment is off, I'll look at other comments to see what is getting traction.
By this process, its become clear to me that the outlook of Reddit The Userbase (as opposed to Reddit The Company) has become much younger in recent years. All too often, when my positions are heavily downvoted, neighboring comments expressing more popular (populist?) positions make me think, "Yeah, I used to think that ... thirty plus years ago."
I didnt like to check the karma on my comments bc what if i got downvoted or worse... what if someone replied to me and id have to engage in conversation?! :0
While terrible on so many levels, giving third party developers the boot is, ironically, precisely the best thing you could do for a competitor like the threadiverse since some will inevitably come over here. Experienced developers who know the domain will suddenly be putting that experience to work to make the threadiverse better. Is that really what Reddit wanted?
Guess we're about to find out. Their loss is our gain.
It’s like reddit has a fundamental misunderstanding of what some of their core userbase was there for. We weren’t there to meet people and make connections and lifelong friends. We were there because our brains want constant input but for information and learning, not entertainment. We can have these same discussions with anyone anywhere. It’s not that we’re antisocial, it’s just that “social” for us is interacting in a different way than interactions done for the sake of forming connections, which is what reddit seems to be really pushing people to do. We can have those same discussions with anyone, anywhere.
I don’t know if that makes sense. 😂
Anyway, I’m using wefwef now and as a hardcore Apollo user, it feels like putting on a new pair of the same favorite shoes. It feels a little different, but once they’re broken in they feel just like the old ones.
If you put the Kbin link or Lemmy app right in RIF's place on your home screen, you'll barely miss it when your muscle memory comes calling for you to push the icon when you get ever so slightly bored.
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