Did you subscribe through Apple’s app store or the Google play store? If you did I think you need to cancel it through the subscription pages of those apps.
Honestly I don’t remember, but its a good guess. I only have access to Android, and the Reddit subscription is not there. Also checked Paypal, but nothing there either. Still i’d expect the reddit profile to be of more help about this. I’ve had to make a support ticket to ask them, but I don’t even know when or where I’ll get an answer from them
When you are charged for premium, what does the charge show as on your account? Cause when I pay for a subscription through Apple, it is Apple that charges my bank and my receipt tells me why. I would imagine it would be the same with other providers so knowing who is charging your bank account will tell you where the charge is coming from
Curious. I'm reasonably sure the option should be either in the settings right where you took that screen shot or under the subscriptions section in the Google Play app store.
Jesus Christ, do we have a good reason to believe that this was the admins and not some other random third-party group just deciding to do this for shits and giggles?
Because on one hand yeah I could totally see red it doing this after all of their other stupid mistakes so far.
On the other hand this seems really strange to me and it just seems so insane to think that Reddit would even think of doing this.
On the other hand this seems really strange to me and it just seems so insane to think that Reddit would even think of doing this.
Have you read about any of Spez's interviews? This feels entirely like something they would do. Don't forget, reddit was originally populated with bots.
“Huffman […] together with Ohanian launched Reddit in June 2005. Embarrassed by an empty-looking site, the founders created hundreds of fake users for their posts to make it look more populated” en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit#History
This is the main issue here. This whole narrative sprung from one comment in one thread that was made without any real evidence other than 'this account is obviously a bot'. Did the admin do it? Maybe. Did someone else do it? Maybe. On one hand, we know that everyone on the internet is a good honest person and if anyone is trolling it could only be the self-serving admin and absolutely no one else would ever try to troll people on reddit, on the other hand the site is run by and full of a bunch of absolutely assholes. So really it could go either way.
I've always had problems with mob justice, bandwagons, etc. though, and don't go in for witchhunts and claims made without any real evidence to back them up.
The dev announced they will be switching to a subscription model. However, Infinity is open source and someone is trying to make a lemmy/kbin version called Beyond. They don’t have a discord up yet but it seems like they plan to when an alpha is ready.
The fact that Relay can stay free of charge while "exploring subscription options" means Reddit modified their terms with some developers. The original deal announced at the end of May meant devs would incur charges starting July 1, although they wouldn't have to pay for those charges until August. That would mean racking up potentially millions in costs right away.
Reddit said they would work with developers who kept communication open, but then they wouldn't answer emails. If a deal was made with Relay it would have been very last minute and therefore rather unprofessional.
I used Relay but will not reinstall because it is temporarily free. I am done with Reddit. They don't respect their users or recognize where their value derives from.
I also suspect that there were inconsistencies between pricing based on the 3rd party app in question. I don't mean that Apollo was being charged more (in proportion) for having a larger userbase compared to apps like Relay or narwhal, but that Apollo was being charged almost double per unit to access API than Relay or narwhal. I am reading between the lines of articles published two *weeks ago about this because it didn't make sense to me why these smaller apps would be able to afford the business model if Apollo had a $20M bill to pay in August.
What gets my goat is why didn't reddit ever just headhunt Christian or other 3PA developers and bring them into reddit corporate to build out their native app? That's what Google or Microsoft would have done to quash competition. Or, to be truly evil, hired Christian and then never let him work on apps again with both an NDA and a non-compete in place.
Huffman regularly calls reddit unprofitable with a heavy dose of ire, but I think there could have been a way to bring a reputable 3PA dev into the fold to keep the reddit native app at least comparable in UX.
They DID do that, when they bought Alien Blue. Then they promptly destroyed it. Good UX != profits. So they butchered it into some sort of zombie app where everything was designed to make them money. And that’s why they are pushing so hard to make EVERYONE use it.
If anything, they hate 3PA devs because they show users what the experience could be like - how good and clean it could be - if they didn’t have a greedy corporation trying to sabotage everything.
They don’t need to hire anyone to pacify them. Reddit doesn’t gaf what happens to the devs, whether they are pacified or not. It’s like a tiny baby fish cursing the ship that just harvested 120,000 fish in a net. The ship laughs, and sails away.
Hopefully things will be better once federation grows in popularity. I know I’ve been using it daily since this all started. But sadly I have to augment with reddit because there just aren’t enough people here yet.
As one of the most active moderators across multiple subreddits for the past couple of years, I could only Moderate on my iPad because of Apps like Apollo.
Apollo worked, and it worked well. Where as Reddit’s Official App is broken more than it works and until very recently didn’t even have many of the core moderation features you would want.
I used Reddit Is Fun for over a decade. It made Reddit usable on mobile for me. The UI for the mobile site and the official app make poor use of screen real-estate, IMO, and are designed to force you to continue scrolling and scrolling and scrolling. They're attention vampires.
RIF and other third-party apps had much cleaner UIs, that made it easier to find the content I was actually interested in, hide content that I didn't care to see, and interact with comments in a way that made sense for me. It was also easier to customize my notifications so that I would only be alerted by things I cared to be distracted by.
Without the third-party apps, I've reduced my Reddit usage tremendously. I used to spend probably a few hours a day just reading through Reddit, but now that I can't do that from my phone in a way that works for my use-case, I just simply don't use Reddit as much anymore. I only ever access it from my laptop now, and I only ever use my laptop while I'm on the toilet.
My Reddit use has been reduced to literal shitposting. Fuck Spez.
I’d love to eventually find some user data after July 1st because I’ve been similar. Spending a few hours reading each day via different subreddits now suddenly to zero.
Losing a big chunk of nearly million users just from Apollo let alone the other apps must show up somewhere in the data.
I’m not touting it, it’s a decent way to make sure that an account is reputable and behaving in a way conducive to the principles of the communities it’s participating in - “upvotes” means people like the things they are posting and saying which means they are good users. It’s just a little …familiar.
I understand what you're saying, but in a general sense, a person with good "Reputation Points" can be seen as contributing positively in the communities they are in. Even posting a controversial opinion and getting downvoted to hell (which I have done before on reddit) won't kill a person's Reputation Points / Karma. I'm still torn on whether it's a positive or not, but it can definitely used as an indicator of whether a person is being a positive member of the site.
However, @PositiveNoise brings up some of the negative points as well. Another being that it reinforces an echo chamber of ideas and stifles discussion, with unpopular but well-fashioned arguments being downvoted because they're disliked, not because they're harmful. And further, repost bots got tons of karma on reddit, upvoted by people who didn't see it the first time, which reduces the quality of the sub / community / magazine by burying OC that couldn't compete against an already proven successful picture / tweet / meme / etc.
It's a conversation. There are arguments for both sides imo.
I strongly encourage this discussion, because at the end it's up to the users - the community - to decide how to use those tools. I think that we have an opportunity here to embrace new custom, and leave what was on reddit on reddit.
but I would argue that the quality argument is flawed in my opinion. upvote and downvote are more used as agreement / disagreement markers.
so if you agree with content, I can understand that you just want to use the upvote (who really is a favorite here in the fediverse) to let the poster know that their content had a positive impact on yourself. I'm cool with that and it's also good to avoid "+1" or "^^^^this" comments. But maybe it shouldn't be displayed (every upvote downvote boosts are public in the fediverse, anyone can have access to this info it's how ActivityPub works for now, just go to more>activity). Favorites are not that public on other platform, I guess only people from the same server are seeing it, or people you follow, I'm not sure about that.
but the downvote mechanism, who could imply a disagreement, is problematic to me. Because we should feel free to specify why we are in a disagreement. They can be so much reason for that and only a conversation, an exchange of thought can help us understand each other.
a simple click on the downvote button is more like a "shut up" for me. Not a really great way to express ourself, to express disagreement. And it's also too healthy in my opinion.
So yes the strongest issue with this mechanism is how it contribute to encourage a single discourse, a single point of view and tend to discourage users with other point of view to engage. It's really problematic for me.
TL;DR consensus is mostly karma is the source of quite a number of problems on Reddit and many people are comfortable with not having them back. There are positives, but the system has to be reworked for it to really work to any capacity that doesn't negatively affect the platform.
Personally, I don't look at karma. I barely even checked other people's user page and I only went on my own page to look for my previous comments.
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