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DavidGarcia, in Research finds dramatic increase in cranial traumas as the first cities were being built, suggesting a rise in violence

Imagine living in a pod in a city crammed togther with a bunch of annoying stinky mfs and you are constantly bloated because you are eating a shitty diet that is mostly grain with no space to escape. I would also bonk some noggins.

Minarble,

WTF Did you just bonk my brothers noggin? Time to hand out some righteous noggin bonkin

theodewere, in Research finds dramatic increase in cranial traumas as the first cities were being built, suggesting a rise in violence
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The researchers put the increase in violence in the 5th and 4th millennia BCE down to the agglomeration of humans in the first, still poorly organized, cities. The rate of violence only reduced significantly once legal systems, a centrally controlled army, and religious institutions (for example, religious festivals) developed.

this seems to be the origins of the Tower of Babel story to me.. in the Late Bronze Age people still told stories about a time long before (3000 years prior), when people had tried to settle down in those poorly organized, agglomeration cities mentioned in the article.. they still told stories about the chaos of cities without laws/religion and no common language..

IonAddis,
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Huh, that’s an interesting theory. I like it.

Reminds me of how things like flood myths might have actually come from times of great natural disasters that got passed down in stories.

I’ve also always wondered if stories about elves, dwarves, etc. are ancient, tattered memories of prehistoric times when homo sapiens was not the only hominid walking the earth.

We overlapped with Neanderthals, Denisovans, Homo floresiensis, etc. (And interbred. nationalgeographic.com/…/enigmatic-human-relative… ) So there was a time when anatomically modern humans walked the earth when other almost-human-but-not species still lived.

And it’s always seemed to me the variety of almost-humans in mythology from around the world might be in some cases an ancient memory of that.

theodewere,
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in general i think we undervalue the ability of pre-literate humans to keep memories alive for truly inconceivable stretches of time.. especially when they are really important, like when entire cities tear themselves apart with anarchy and no doubt every known disease as a result.. the drama of it can't be overstated on the minds of the people who lived it.. they had only recently been kicked out of Eden, which was also very real in their minds.. those people knew all the Gods had turned their backs on them, because they lived the first real large scale human suffering..

fossilesque, in Complaint Tablet to Ea-nasir
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DavidGarcia, in Archaeologists Discover Remains of 5,000-Year-Old Wine in Ancient Egyptian Tomb

This together with all the thousands of years old cheeses, 2000 year old bog butter, and edible mammoth meat we found, we could make the sickest charcuterie board in history

prettybunnys,

Mmmm mammoth meat rose

DavidGarcia,

When you think about it, the concept of a “meat rose” is horrible. Sounds like somthing the Ayleid would come up with.

Fermion,

Bender is going to make some award winning sausage.

IonAddis, in Archaeologists Discover Remains of 5,000-Year-Old Wine in Ancient Egyptian Tomb
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“Tomb beverage” sounds like some sort of horrible euphemism involving embalming fluid…or worse.

Klystron, in The 1st Americans were not who we thought they were
sik0fewl,

Haha. Glad I'm not the only one whose mind went straight to this.

Minarble, in The 1st Americans were not who we thought they were

Good article but by following embedded links TIL:

New World capuchin monkeys are well-known by their ability to solve problems using stone tools that have the characteristics and morphology of some human-made stone tools.

I knew chimps etc used sticks but was unaware of actual stone tool use by monkeys

N0body, in The 1st Americans were not who we thought they were
son_named_bort, in The 1st Americans were not who we thought they were

And we didn’t let em off the hook!

Vigge93, in Researchers use AI to read word on ancient scroll burned by Vesuvius

It’s quite interesting, when they read the output they found that the scroll said “As an AI language model, I cannot…”

The old civilisations truly were ahead of their times.

milliams, in Researchers use AI to read word on ancient scroll burned by Vesuvius

Not “AI”. It’s a standard machine learning model Seems to be some image segmentation plus extras using PyTorch. The original source never mentioned the term “AI”, so why did the Guardian decide to bandwagon jump? The research and discovery is just as exciting without smacking the AI label on it.

Granite, in Mythical hellhound and sea-centaurs painted on 2,200-year-old tomb discovered in Italy
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Horse Sea Monsters is my new band name

zuu,
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Horsey Monsters?

thefluffiest,

Hoarse Sea Monsters?

Granite, in Mythical hellhound and sea-centaurs painted on 2,200-year-old tomb discovered in Italy
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Also known as the Acid Trip era of history.

In more seriousness, they think the fumes at Delphi contributed to the visions. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/greece-delphi-oracle-gas-vapors-science

Sixner,

Pay wall article :(

Granite,
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Weird. It wasn’t for me and I don’t have a subscription

NinePeedles, in Mythical hellhound and sea-centaurs painted on 2,200-year-old tomb discovered in Italy

Mythical?

snaptastic, in Mythical hellhound and sea-centaurs painted on 2,200-year-old tomb discovered in Italy

Disappointing that the article didn’t include a picture of the dog :(

speck,
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