God, I am so sick of this shitty kind of negativity. If you don’t like a show, you don’t have to wait for it to get cancelled to decide to stop watching it. Just don’t watch it. Other people watch it, so let them have it.
Lemmy feels very different to me as well. People seem more mature, skeptical, genuinely left-leaning, interested in discussion, and the moderation isn’t totalitarian. Plus Reddit really seemed like it was controlled by moderators with an agenda. I’m not a flagrant asshole (I think), yet I was banned from a few subreddits for not following seemingly arbitrary rules. For example, I was banned from my city’s subreddit for making a post asking a question that wasn’t directly about the city, it was more about the state’s culture/history. I just wanted to know what my neighbors thought. Apparently someone decided that wasn’t what the subreddit was for.
People seem more mature, skeptical, genuinely left-leaning, interested in discussion, and the moderation isn’t totalitarian.
You’ve finally found the right echo chamber for you!
Kidding, kidding. But really, I don’t find people on Lemmy that much more mature or skeptical than Reddit, and I’ve had fewer productive discussions (though those have also been rare on Reddit for several years now). It’s definitely more left-leaning, though.
Moderation seems more friendly, though, I agree with that.
I also have found the discussions more mature, usually, even in some cases where the other person is to my right or left on the political spectrum (I am in the progressive / social democrat range). Of course there are always some that post in bad faith but it seems like the ratio of those to others is lower here, thankfully.
So no to Boost and Sync then. Though it’s a one-time payment and not a recurring subscription. However it’s ~3,75 for Boost and a whopping ~16,- for Sync to remove ads.
Plus Sync also has a subscription model which for me is an automatic -50 points.
Lord, you and I must have been on different forms of reddit if you think the users over here are more overly assured and aggressive than reddit. Personally, I find most conversations so much more productive here.
Yes I’m seeing the same sentiment bubble up in multiple comments here. I don’t relate at all…
It’s been a few years since I encountered any meaningful discussion on Reddit that wasn’t immediately polluted by screeching buffoons. I’ve yet to see that here.
I hope this trend personally experiencing continues!
I agree. On Lemmy, saying the wrong thing on the wrong community is like stepping on a landmine. The ideological differences are wild. Maybe I just need to get used to this and block the worse communities. It certainly feels very hostile. Especially from leftwing users and communities.
I consider myself to be moderate left. But I may as well be a fascist in the eyes of some for pointing out flaws that are inherent in utopic thinking. I think social media only rewards those at the extremes with serious engagement now and these echo filters drive people to holding ever more extreme views.
I think a lot of people spend so much time online and so little time engaging with their local communities that they lose sight of how their opinions actually map out in the world and the nuances of how society actually engages and compromises. This is true of the left and the right.
Well said. I suppose we can all be guilty of this, and this is why I try to engage with people of with many different ideological positions. It’s not always comfortable to confront out own beliefs and biases, but I do think it makes us more well-rounded.
I’d say less. Still finding my place here but the comment section seems more polarised than on Reddit. The recent Australian referendum for example. Any nuanced discussion is impossible (only in some instances I’m sure) because alternative opinions make you a racist according to the average (most vocal at least) commenter. It’s sad because as in that instance and regardless of politics, it often means a bunch of white people dictating what is/isn’t, true/false, wanted/needed… important.
The problem you’re describing has been described countless times before. Plato talks about it at length. It’s literally the basis for 1984.
So, the answer is yes.
The good news is, it’s part of a cycle of revolution and enshitification. Things get bad, the masses decide they’ve had enough, and strike back, things get better for a while, until they follow the same path they did the first time, and the cycle repeats.
But.
Every time it happens, things get a little worse. The relentless march of time and enshitification will gradually consume the planet, until human civilization collapses entirely. Maybe in our lifetime, maybe in 200 years, maybe in a 1000. But some day, all we’ve built will come crashing down around us, because while each individual may have foresight, society does not.
I’ve heard that it’s easier to grow in power or money when you don’t consider ethical questions while rising above others (as long as you either follow laws or don’t get caught while not following them).
And since humans seem to be an animal that corrupts easily (especially when given enough power/money)…
Makes me wonder - when do I corrupt? How? And if/when I will, will I even notice it myself?
I’d argue that each time, things get a little better.
Sure the worst part is always the worst we’ve ever seen, but we take what we learned from that and create new systems. Plan A starts well enough, until money and power corrupt it, it gets bad enough to revolt and now we try plan B. Plan B will eventually corrupt, but, it’s better than plan A ever was. We’re getting closer, but it’s a trial and error process that happens over centuries, so it’s going to take longer than we’ll ever know.
I disagree. The world now is still dealing with issues that technology has eliminated. No one has to be hungry now or thirsty or homeless or sick (mostly). No, now meeting needs is setup behind a paywall with artificial barriers.
I think we’re on the same page actually. Currently, shit is fucked, and it’s well past time for a reset. I’m ready for the next, better (but probably still not quite perfect) system.
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