Should I wait for the "Snyder cut" (director's cut) of Rebel Moon?

Hearing the movie is getting bad reviews. But Snyder says the director’s cut will be a completely different movie with a different vision. I admit Zack Snyder’s Justice League (director’s cut) was much better than the theatrical version and quite different (though I had mostly forgotten the original by then). Not sure if I should just watch this movie now or wait for the director’s cut for a better experience. Impression Blend on YouTube said it was ok.

Illuminostro,

I can’t get over the fact that a fucking Brit delivered the worst Irish accent I’ve ever heard.

Lafari,

I think Australians do the worst New Zealand accents and vice versa. So maybe closely related countries just don’t understand each other/their differences as much as vastly different countries in certain cases? In some ways it’s the other way around tho so idk.

BoastfulDaedra,

Well… Sailor Moon was much better written.

leraje,
@leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I must be one of the few people who quite likes Snyder’s work. Yes it’s stylistic-heavy but in terms of Rebel Moon, given it was supposed to be a Star Wars movie, they’d clearly relied on being able to use Star Wars lore in place of some character development. And then, also consider this release has been heavily chopped to be kid-friendly. It was OK. I’ll certainly be watching the directors cut and I suspect it’ll be as good as the Justice League cut, which was really good.

CaptDust, (edited )

Rounding out my viewing of this snooze fest, there is no way a directors cut can save this film, and certainly adding more time isn’t going to improve it. Dull characters, uninspired environments, generic spacecraft, I’m really struggling to understand how this much time and money can be invested into something so mediocre.

Moobythegoldensock,

As someone who generally likes Snyder’s movies but didn’t particularly care for Rebel Moon, it’s hard to say. The movie is both too long and too short. It’s too long in that the middle of the film drags and there are unnecessary scenes that definitely should have been cut (such as most of the scenes with the soldiers at the beginning of the film and the ending of the bird scene.) It’s too short in that most of the characters feel undeveloped and it’s hard to get emotionally invested in the climax.

I feel like some of the fight scenes, particularly an early one involving an axe, could use the extra blood effects from the R cut. It just felt really bland with cutaway clean kills, and kind of undermines the movie’s gritty tone with more fantasy violence. Later fights in the movie use more fantasy elements (like laser weapons) and these are fine without the blood effects.

Reportedly the R cut will have at least 40 extra minutes, which may really help flesh out the plot. I’d especially like it if the scene where Kora recites her character bio to the camera is cut and replaced with scenes showing us all those things, but that’s unlikely. More likely, some characters will be more fleshed out, but also a bunch of extraneous stuff will be added as well. Neither will likely fix the underlying core of the film that’s essentially Seven Samurai meets Star Wars, but does neither particularly well.

If you are going to watch it, I would probably wait for the extended cut, though it’s hard to tell whether there will be much, if any, improvement.

Lafari,

So it’s overly long and misuses its time. Wow.

Moobythegoldensock,

That’s Zach Snyder in general. The only way to really watch his films are extended cuts, because the theatrical cuts tend to cut out all the exposition and focus on the core of the movie. But the core of the movie doesn’t make much sense without the exposition. The result is an overlong movie that feels like it should be shorter, but nothing can really be trimmed because the film tried to do too much. BvS is a prime example of this.

I think the guy gets way too many ideas in his head and has trouble telling a single, focused story with them.

negativeyoda,

I wouldn’t watch it again, but given that I’d already decided to do fuck all with my evening and veg out on Netflix I’m not as angry as most of you. It was dumb. I’ll probably watch part 2 in pieces if I watch it

I’m so bored by the over stylised slow mo. It got so tedious once the action started. The backdrops looked cool but the green screen wasn’t even done well. Between the shitty green screen, indigent slow mo and overall lack of cohesive story it was impossible to get immersed. The plot was just a hodgepodge of fellowship of the ring pokemon team building of a bunch of nobodies who of course had to been and Haw before joining up reluctantly. At least in justice league the Flash went against this trope and it was one of the better scenes in that shitty film.

Between this atrocity, the latest marvel offerings, the latest Indiana Jones, and the latest Avatar I’m wondering if my film palate is too discerning these days or are big films just getting shittier? Everything is somehow overwrought yet derivative. The last thing I watched that was ambitious that I remember blowing me away was the Watchmen series

Reverendender,

Dial of Destiny sucked. Check out Invincible on Prime.

negativeyoda,

Ooohh. Yeah. Invincible is great

girl, (edited )

Between this atrocity, the latest marvel offerings, the latest Indiana Jones, and the latest Avatar I’m wondering if my film palate is too discerning these days or are big films just getting shittier? Everything is somehow overwrought yet derivative. The last thing I watched that was ambitious that I remember blowing me away was the Watchmen series

I feel this too, I’m so sick of unoriginal continuations of existing IP. I’ve been enjoying A24 movies and shows though, Beef and EEAAO absolutely blew me away. I also loved Pearl and Frankenstein’s Monster’s Monster, Frankenstein. I love their metamodern style.

Edit: not A24, but Barry was also fantastic. Plot points that you expect to be dragged out over 1-2 seasons are resolved quickly, because the show has a dense, concise story to tell and doesn’t waste time.

Lafari, (edited )

+100 for Barry, that show was too good and underrated. I don’t know if I’ll find a show as great as that for a while, but thankful Fargo is still on.

As far as A24, I think Robert Eggers’ ‘The Lighthouse’ and Ari Aster’s ‘Beau Is Afraid’ are my favorites.

Another weird movie I enjoyed recently is Triangle of Sadness (2022). Oh and ‘Enemy’ (2013) was so artistic, I think. Also ‘The Banshees of Inisherin’ (2022), what a movie.

Boots Riley’s debut film and TV show, Sorry to Bother You and I’m a Virgo, respectively, were amazing as well.

I haven’t seen the ‘X’ films or Frankenstein’s (…) but I will have to now.

Lafari,

I found the new Avatar lacklustre as well. Dune wasn’t my thing either. Big hopes for the Jak and Daxter film but that’s mostly because I hope it will spawn a new game. Enjoying the fifth season of the TV show ‘Fargo’ airing at the moment which is mostly consistently good.

Lafari,

I’m interested about the Army of the Dead sequel ‘Planet of the Dead’ as crazy as it sounds.

h_ramus, (edited )

It had more slow motion scenes than an Indian action movie. Shallow and cliché dialogue ripping off from the star wars universe. Snyder was plastered all over the credits. If this isn’t his cut then take the damn name off the credits. No matter how you cut it it’ll have the same actors, storyline, dialogue depth and in-your-face visuals. Snyder really is a subtle and sophisticated guy.

danileonis,
@danileonis@lemmy.ml avatar

The better experience is a film without Snyder. The Owls of Ga’Hoole is the only decent work in his (artistically) shitty career.

ChicoSuave,

300 is good if you interpret the story as the oral history of the fight by the only survivor to recruit more spartans for a hopeless but ultimately existential fight.

sxan,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

I liked the quote from the historian who said, 300 wasn’t historically accurate, but the Spartans themselves would probably have loved it and approved of the representation.

danileonis, (edited )
@danileonis@lemmy.ml avatar

300 is one of the ugliest and most pretentious film of the century: pectorals made in computer graphics, pompous advertising shooter direction (which is in fact Snyder’s “cultural” background) and a completely idiotic use of slow motion like we’ve never seen before.

I can partly agree with you if we talk about the graphic novel but I still regretted purchasing that comic, a pro-fascist and forgettable work.

fadingembers,
@fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’ve found my people

burliman,

I don’t think another cut will help things.

Waldowal,
@Waldowal@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, I would wait. It can’t get any worse.

markr,

Unwatchable mess. Mulan meets Star Wars. Was there an actual plot?

finestnothing,

Save the farmers something something build up group of good time heroes something something betrayal something something palpatine pt2

markr,

I did manage to get (on the second try) to THE OBLIGATORY BAR SCENE before killing it dead.

lightnsfw,

I thought it was alright but I’d wait til the sequel or however many movies they’re making are done. Netflix likes to cancel shit in the middle. They’re doing the 7 samurais thing which I dig but I don’t want to watch half of it and then they pull the rug out.

fogstormberry,

I don’t see any mention of the awful backstory monologueing. with all the other crap mentioned here, honestly just skip it. don’t even hope for directors cut to fix anything

Vanth,
@Vanth@reddthat.com avatar

By releasing a “Snyder Cut” every time, aren’t they saying he either can’t put a decent movie together or that the studio doesn’t trust him to? Lame gimmick that makes them all look bad.

If I watch a version, I’m going to watch whichever is shortest. Sprawling, slow meandering stories aren’t my thing and knowing Snyder, most of the extra length will be in unnecessary slow-mo shots.

ElPussyKangaroo,

I’ll be honest, it was fine. Not as “bad” as I kept hearing.

It’s meh. The VFX were good enough. The story needs tons of improvement. The visuals are definitely Snydery.

I await the Snyder Cut.

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