Aussiemandeus,
@Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone avatar

It’s what it’s. My butchering of it is what it is

suodrazah,

It’s’wh’t’s

Fetus,

Would that’t’were so simple.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

It’‘’'s

philthi,

In the future this will be a period of time I’ll remember clearly, which makes it valuable. Easy times lead to no substantial memories which is effectively the loss of that time.

intensely_human,

This is how I interact with my dad’s dog.

Dad’s out of town so I’m staying at his house taking care of his dog. I love this dog. But also take this dog for granted a lot, especially when I’ve just come home from work and I’m irritable and overwhelmed.

I pretend that, instead of this being me here and now, it’s a future version of me, from maybe thirty years in the future, when this dog has been long dead. Then I imagine that this moment is some kind of miracle wormhole through time where the me from the time this dog is an ancient memory has been given a few minutes to be with the dog.

Like, I would happily trade my finger and all the money I have for a minute with my mother, who died fifteen years ago. But I can’t.

What I can do is treat the people around me as I would treat my mother in that one minute, if it were somehow granted to me.

Almost like opening myself up to visitation from my future self. And in doing so, I experience more richly and it will actually work. When the dog is long gone, in the ground for decades, I will be able to visit him because I opened myself, which led to deep memory inscription.

philthi,

Brilliant post, and I try to do the same thing, if I’m somewhere beautiful or profound and I have a few minutes to myself I like to make a “memory bubble” to me it’s like a little snapshot of experience that I work really hard to recall every minute detail ( including my emotional state and sounds and smells, etc…) and then I can revisit them in the future.

I like this because it makes you appreciate where you are at the time more, and gives you good memories to lean on in the future.

intensely_human,

Incidentally, I think this phenomenon of appreciating the present by looking through the lens of a future where it’s lost, is the basis of the band name The Grateful Dead.

JubilantJaguar,

Easy times lead to no substantial memories

This seems wrong

philthi,

I’m open to discussion, but now that I’ve existed for a substantial period of time, I’ve found that my most prevailing memories are the ones hard won (e.g. when I almost had to sleep on the streets or ran out of money in a foreign country or got evicted from my flat). Whereas days sat on my couch watching telly, or in the pub having fun with friends, or another routine day in the gym are all blurred memories with no definition and no real sense of elapsed time.

JamesStallion,

Just the fuckin way she goes boys

Aussiemandeus,
@Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone avatar

Trailer park boys, full of insight

proctonaut,

Fuck you mean it’s just the fuckin way she goes?

HootinNHollerin, (edited )
@HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ray: Way of the road. Sometimes she goes and sometimes she doesn’t go. Fuckin way she goes, boys

Bubbles: fuckin way she goes

intensely_human,

So we were all gonna have a good time and get drunk but now all the money’s gone into the VLTs so there’s no drinkin or gettin drunk or nothing is … how she goes, apparently

Empricorn,

Sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn’t… Fuckin way she goes…

suodrazah,

I gatekeep my own misery with perspective.

Knowing that there’s billions of people having a far worse moment/day/life keeps me intact. I have nothing to complain about.

Usernameblankface,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

This one has never helped me. It just has me wanting to give up so much more, overwhelmed by the pain and suffering of others along with my own.

JubilantJaguar,

This divergent response may have something to do with personality types.

TheInsane42,
@TheInsane42@lemmy.world avatar

That didn’t work… Next!

And when it’s a real big mess: In 100 years, nobody will know or care.

suodrazah,

Yup, a big factor is realising that none of this actually matters.

SuckMyWang,

It does but it won’t so just be patient

Endorkend,
@Endorkend@kbin.social avatar

Depending on the OPs circumstances, that realization may actually be what is causing them their bad times.

Friend of mine has had ideation for a long ass time and the frequency of them trying to step out of life increased considerably when that realization hit them.

When you're already feeling worthless and without purpose, realizing nothing has purpose and this whole concept of life and living we have is utterly meaningless in the grand scale of the universe, it's not ideal.

JubilantJaguar,

So the solution is self-delusion? Not offering solutions, but you see the problem.

GoodbyeBlueMonday,

I don’t see it as delusion, but being realistic.

What you and I do today is meaningless in the grand scale of the universe, and likely has a tiny effect on what happens to someone living a hundred years from now.

That doesn’t mean that what we do doesn’t have a more immediate impact.

Make your neighbor’s day better, because while it won’t matter in a million years, it matters now. So who cares if it costs you a few extra minutes of your life, it makes theirs better, and nothing means anything in the long run anyway, right? So why not make it easier for everyone else here, now? Making other people feel better feels good, so everyone wins, and we can better enjoy what time we have.

JubilantJaguar,

Some good points, which don’t contradict the macro-level analysis. I agree and see things this way myself. Life is absurd, so might as well laugh about it and be nice to people while you’re here, basically.

burliman,

Just imagine that one person in Europe about 30,000 years ago who found himself stuck in some hole in the ground, alone and broken, finally dying of thirst and infection, who left behind four kids and his bonded life partner. They didn’t know where he went, and in only a season she had paired with another mate in the clan. Within four years anything said about this man had wilted to almost never, and forget about anything having been written down or logged in any way.

Forgotten to time.

It didn’t take long then. Might take longer now. But time will still forget us all. Make your mark while you’re around, because after that no one will give a shit.

peto,

“I am here, I move forward.” Might do for you. Say it, take the time to see where you are and what you can do next. Even a small improvement is valid, just make sure you move and don’t dwell on things you can’t control.

Best of luck.

slazer2au,
shinigamiookamiryuu,

Me: This too shall pass

My circumstances: YOU SHALL NOT PASS

intensely_human,

And it’s true. We don’t survive the trials of life we just molt into the next version of ourselves.

If a certain transformation is going un-completed because it feels like death, it can be helpful to recognize that it is death. That’s no illusion.

To truly live life to the fullest, one has to sacrifice their self to a future person again and again and again. When you finally get there, it won’t be as the person you are now.

shinigamiookamiryuu,

I tried sacrificing myself to a future person once. But the future person had the same feelings, interests, and shortcomings. Then the future person realized herself as being no better than the person who sacrificed herself to her.

voidavoid,

Like a kidney stone

BigBootyBoy,
@BigBootyBoy@sh.itjust.works avatar

IRS agent: You have thousands of dollars of overdue taxes

Me: This too shall pass

intensely_human,

Reminds me of Louis CK’s joke about suicide.

You get a letter from the DMV: “You have to appear at such and such …”

“No I don’t”

slazer2au,

With enough time it will.

Source: my wife works for a tax authority

MartinXYZ,

This has been my motto for years but now I have incurable cancer in the brain so I’m looking for a new one…

Sanity_in_Moderation,

Will happen. Happening. Happened.

intensely_human,

So what is it that you intend to do before you lose the capacity to do things?

MartinXYZ,

All the things.

Annoyed_Crabby,

“it’s okay, just keep swimming”. That’s really what i always tell myself.

Kyrgizion,

Fate is inescapable to both protagonists as antagonists. Death remains the great equalizer across all layers of society.

zakobjoa,
@zakobjoa@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not sure how “Your choices don’t matter and you’ll all die anyway.” is supposed to keep people going, but okay.

Nemo,

A lot of us are more worried about making wrong choices than we should be.

intensely_human,

Don’t ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive.

— Howard Thurman

Kyrgizion,

YMMV but to me it’s a comforting thought that, in the very end, nothing you do actually matters. From the most insignificant pauper to Musk, eventually we all die, rot, fade away and are forgotten.

That may be sad, but it liberates you in this moment. It does for me somewhat, anyway.

intensely_human,

Hey I just want to say that in my own life, I had a rough upbringing. Lots and lots and lots of emotional abuse, and it wrapped me in a cocoon of inhibition. I was terrified of taking on shame, so I didn’t want to do anything.

The perspective you’re referring to did indeed help me escape the cocoon of fear, to allow me to try things that I was afraid could possibly go wrong.

I took it pretty far. I did intense zen training for about three years, and about nine years in total. I pursued “no self” pretty hard, and it was helpful.

However, at a certain point I had to switch polarity in order to progress. At a certain point I had freed myself of the initial terror of action, but it wasn’t working. The next step, which took me beyond that place, was to reverse that orientation and find things that really did matter.

Not saying you’re wrong. Just saying be prepared to switch vehicles at a certain point. As the buddha said: When you get to the other side of the river, leave the boat behind.

coldv,

“Slow down for a moment, tackle one thing at a time” helps a lot when I’m anxious and overwhelmed.

columns_columns,

This is really close to what I do as well. If I’m overwhelmed, I think to myself, “Just start with one small thing. Then do another small thing. Eventually, lots of small things add up to a large thing. Won’t get anywhere doing nothing and worrying about how much I have to do.”

intensely_human,

Yup. One thing at a time is a powerful thing.

When I was in college I had a therapist. I was telling him how I wasn’t sure if I was being perfectly efficient about how I was going about things, that I was wasting time and energy in my approach.

His advice was just to focus on doing something rather than nothing, without trying to optimize it.

It really helped.

graycube,

"One day at a time. One hour at a time. Let's just get through this one little task."

banana_meccanica,

“I am already dead” and “They are not your friends”

serennis,

Don’t worry about things you can’t change.

Lulu,
@Lulu@sh.itjust.works avatar

“it’s not supposed to be easy all the time”

SuckMyWang,

It could be though, if you were rich

intensely_human,

That’s not true

SuckMyWang,

Well not all the time, but a lot more of the time. Here’s a philosophical question. Do you think being on a holiday is easier than having to go to work? Why would not being on a permanent holiday be easier? Do extremely rich retired people look like they’re having a hard time aside from physical decline?

mrcleanup,

As much as I hate the rich, I don’t think they don’t have problems or stress, it’s just a different selection of problems and stress.

They can still have relationship issues, family members die, diarrhea.

intensely_human,

Also like, we’re the proof of that.

People from 1,000 years ago would not believe we could be suffering at all, given our level of wealth.

SuckMyWang, (edited )

We have those problems too. We have to worry about money at the same time.

If you were rich:

Relationship issues> the best counseling, less time working, more holidays, de-stress any number of other ways to make solving those issues easier.

Family member dies> stop working for a period of time (if you even choose to work) spend time with family, pay for funeral for a nice send off, pay to have cleaners and meals cooked for the house of the deceased to ease their burden. Pay for people to fly or take time off work so they can spend time with family.

Diarrhea> fancy toilet and bidet.

The idea life is not easier with money is a lie. We know this because everyone who has it will do everything they can to keep it and get more. The difference is the more money you have, the more problems your brain has to manufacture. Not knowing which Bentley to buy or feeling like your too busy while you have the power at any moment to pay to have other people do a lot of those things aren’t real problems because you have the resource to solve them. When you’re poor your problems are more real. Not having enough food or worrying about rent or paying to medical costs are real problems.

shinigamiookamiryuu,

The closest I come is “Calgon, take me away.”

Haus,
@Haus@kbin.social avatar

Ancient Chinese secret, eh? ;)

shinigamiookamiryuu,

What do you mean?

intensely_human,

Can’t tell ancient Chinese secret

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