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RyeMan, in What devices run with free firmware?

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  • compiled_lemmite,

    As of Debian 12, non-free firmware is enabled by default

    alt,

    What’s MOBO?

    SaltySalamander,
    @SaltySalamander@kbin.social avatar

    Shorthand for motherboard

    alt,

    Thank you!

    Secret300, in What distro for a MacBook pro late 2013 15'

    Fedora’s my personal preference. They have a KDE spin

    AnUnusualRelic, in What devices run with free firmware?
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    The disks still have proprietary firmware, as do several other components though.

    Catsrules,

    I bet that wireless mouse probably has some code in it.

    nxdefiant,

    If you’re using an active thunderbolt cable, you wire has proprietary code in it.

    smileyhead,

    But it’s a closed device with the firmware not being for user to replace.

    While BIOS can be updated without opening the computer. Or many WiFi cards require you to load a firmware on them upon boot.

    So firmware in the disk is more of a right-to-repair problem rather than free/nonfree software

    alt, in What devices run with free firmware?

    Besides the already mentioned Star Labs and System76, there’s also Insurgo, Nitropad and NovaCustom.

    As for an exhaustive list on the matter, unfortunately, I don’t think something like that is out there. Though both Canoeboot (formerly known as Libreboot) and Dasharo do have their own respective lists.

    Pantherina, (edited )

    I just got myself a Clevo NV41MZ, supported by Dasharo! Lets see if this machine would like to boot my damn usb sticks XD

    alt, (edited )

    Hehe :P , consider to keep us updated on how it goes ;) !

    Clevo MZ41

    Would that be the Clevo model that NovaCustom’s NV41 Series is ‘based’ on?

    Pantherina,

    Yes, model names, its a NV41MZ. Very rare to find actually and an older model than novacustoms.

    So far, the build quality… they saved on material. Keyboard and chassis are very cheap. I wish I could swap in my Thinkpad keyboard, would probably be possible.

    alt,

    It’s unfortunate to hear that; with the chassis being my biggest concern as I don’t think you would be able to find suitable replacement for that. As for the keyboard, perhaps an affordable and portable external keyboard might help you with that.

    Pantherina,

    The keyboard is okaaay. I will post a review of the laptop soon. I am simply very spoiled by my Thinkpad.

    I am not sure what material the chassis is, top around the keyboard is like metal, the screen thing too, meanwhile when opening it up you can see the metallic spray paint inside?

    It is easy to open, not sure how easy to find spare parts but everything is very well removable. I think modern Thinkpad keyboards are the best ones ever, one could get a usb variant and wire somehow inside.

    Or you would need an arduino board, a custom mini firmware and all, just to translate the different keyboards. But that was “random keyboard to usb”, and not “random keyboard to random keyboard”.

    Man it would be great if you could just swap keyboards

    alt, (edited )

    spare parts

    It seems NovaCustoms offer some spareparts. I wonder if the ones not explicitly stating NV4xMZ can be used on your device as well.

    Pantherina,

    Thanks, true! The people from Novacustom are very nice.

    alt,

    Thanks, true!

    😉

    The people from Novacustom are very nice.

    Agreed. They definitely are.

    Pantherina,

    No the NV41MZ for example has no numpad. Its the compact 14in model which I would always choose for my tasks. Maybe not all, but it was the only clevo on like all Europes Ebay. Literally shipped it in from Great Britain

    alt,

    No the NV41MZ for example has no numpad.

    That’s unfortunate.

    but it was the only clevo on like all Europes Ebay. Literally shipped it in from Great Britain

    Honestly, I haven’t done a lot of business on Ebay. So, I don’t know a lot on how much cheaper you might get devices from there. Though, I wonder if it’s a lot cheaper than say this device.

    Pantherina,

    Damn good find! Not expensive, about double the price I paid but still very reasonable.

    Very funny, they have a Tux bootsplash logo in their Bios??

    And the BIOS really is great, I will miss that on Coreboot I guess. But all the necessary features should be there.

    alt,

    Damn good find! Not expensive, about double the price I paid but still very reasonable.

    Oh lol, that’s a considerable difference. Though I suppose the Intel CPUs on your device probably aren’t 12th gen?

    they have a Tux bootsplash logo in their Bios??

    Who offers that :P ? Did I somehow miss that?

    And the BIOS really is great, I will miss that on Coreboot I guess. But all the necessary features should be there.

    coreboot FTW!

    scytale,

    The starlabs one is actually pretty interesting. Too bad the keyboard is not included in the price and costs extra.

    gears,

    Canoeboot is more of a sister to libreboot than a replacement

    libreboot.org/news/canoeboot.html

    alt,

    Thanks for the correction!

    MonkderZweite,

    Canoeboot is engineered to a high standard, basing off of each Libreboot release, but you should still use Libreboot. Canoeboot is only a proof of concept.

    libreboot.org/news/policy.html

    Caravaggio, in What has been your experience with Flatpak?

    What’s your long-term experience?

    Excellent. After uninstalling it never comes back.

    0x4E4F, (edited ) in What devices run with free firmware?

    ThinkPads have some sort of an open source replacement I think…

    generic,
    @generic@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    Some ThinkPads. I have coreboot on my T430, but I don’t think my X270 can run it.

    netchami, in This week in KDE: Plasma 6 Alpha approaches

    So hyped for Plasma 6

    GnomeComedy, in Fedora or Mint for noob?

    Have them check with their University if they do any Linux support. If they do - use one of the distros they support so they might possibly have KB articles about accessing University recourses from Linux.

    Source: am Linux admin at a University that writes such documentation. I have seen exactly the Eduroam issue you mention and came up with an Ubuntu workaround for example.

    Jumuta, in What devices run with free firmware?

    libreboot.org/docs/hardware/

    also iirc starbook/system76 also does coreboot support

    thecrotch, in How to choose a computer/laptop/device that is better compatible with linux? Are there certain things to look out for when shopping?

    I usually go for business level dells, like latitudes. They’re the go-to for corporations so they’re usually pretty well supported simply because they’re so common

    Macaroni9538,

    I have also heard this sentiment, that enterprise/business level hardware is best, even for personal use

    crispy_kilt, in What has been your experience with Flatpak?

    I don’t like it. Updating dependencies in case of security problems is impossible, I have to wait for the developer to release an update. Also, it wastes a lot of space. Pollutes df output. App startup is slooow.

    Just use the native packaging system! There is no reason software can’t be released using that.

    Presi300,
    @Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

    idk what type of drive you’re using, but flatpak startup times are indistinguishable to me, when compared to native packages. And I’ve used flatpaks on A LOT of computers…

    araozu,

    Just to provide counter examples, in arch I can’t use the native steam package and play games with proton. It just doesn’t work. I think proton expects some ubuntu libraries or something (found something like that while spending 5 hours debugging nfs heat). And even if I manage to fix it, next time I update the system it’ll be broken again.

    I use flatpak, and everything just works.

    However, in arch if something is in the official repo or the AUR i prefer those.

    In ubuntu I installed krita and gmic, but it doesn’t work. For some reason krita doesn’t find the gmic executable. Instead of debugging krita and gmic for hours I just installed the flatpak version, and it just works.

    And yeah, app startup went from 5 to 7-10 seconds in krita, and from 1 to 2-3 seconds in firefox. It’s not snap, it’s 2023, we have SSDs.

    themoken,

    Really? I use Arch native Steam and Proton no problem. You either use steam-runtime (uses built in Ubuntu runtime) or steam-native (expects Arch packages) but there is a meta package for pulling the runtime deps. Both have worked for me.

    That said, Flatpak has come in clutch for me as well on the Steam Deck, and for things like Prism Launcher (modded Minecraft launcher) where you want to juggle multiple Java versions without needing to run archlinux-java between switching packs.

    jbk,

    Wdym by df pollution? That’s the case with snap, not flatpak

    przmk,

    There’s a pretty simple reason. It’s that developers don’t have to spend the time to package for every single distro. I know I wouldn’t, I’d just focus on packaging for the distro that I use and flatpak. Having flatpak also means that some less known distros start with a big amount of apps available from the get go with flatpak.

    Pantherina,

    I see that fragmentation of runtimes is a problem. If all apps would simply use the same runtime, and a modern one, and there was a package manager that installs the missing dependencies, that would be nice.

    The diskspace is a true problem too, just because of the fragmented runtimes.

    But Distros are fragmented too. If simply everyone could unify, at least a bit, instead of at least 5 different big Distros competing, every app could just work. But thats not the case, so Flatpaks often work best, and maany packages are either only .deb, .rpm or even only on Arch

    p_q, in How to choose a computer/laptop/device that is better compatible with linux? Are there certain things to look out for when shopping?

    they pretty much all run linux ootb. Question is: What devices run without binary blobs underneath the OS?

    Macaroni9538,

    Sorry, over my head on what a binary blob is lol does it have anything to do with proprietary stuff?

    HumanPerson,

    IIRC it means a binary large object. Typically a proprietary part of firmware. Commonly needed for WiFi cards but there are other things too.

    Macaroni9538,

    Aha! so im not so stupid after all lol I was pretty much right. so how do you figure which manufacturers or even models are more open source and less proprietary?

    Immersive_Matthew, in 10 REASONS why Linux Mint is the desktop OS to beat in 2023

    I sure wish I could get off Windows and onto Linux, but as a VR developer, it really is not feasible. Sucks

    Molten_Moron,

    At least you get Windows and not the abomination that is MacOS.

    cries in iOS developer

    dino,

    I’d rather use macOS than windows anyday.

    Subverb,

    I run a small business, but I’m also I’m an embedded systems developer on ARM processors for my products. Our toolchain is Windows-specific. That and the Adobe suite which I also need for my business keep my primary work machine Windows.

    My laptop is Linux but even that creates occasional hassles with my work flow and presentations.

    morrowind,
    @morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

    What are you developing for? Hololens?

    Immersive_Matthew,

    Meta Quest and SteamVR.

    I_like_cats,

    Me here playing VR games on Linux: wut?

    Immersive_Matthew,

    My VR runs fine on Linux, just I cannot develop it on Linux as the tools are simply not available.

    jeroentbt, in Shoutout to fwupd for updating device firmware

    I’m here just to join you shouting out. Great peace of software.

    GustavoM, in 10 REASONS why Linux Mint is the desktop OS to beat in 2023
    @GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

    Indeed! My grandmother loves it. :^)

    Aggravationstation,

    And I love your grandmother :D

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