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BlanK0, in TIL that operating system Linux is an example of anarcho-communism

And I think Lemmy is also an example of ancom due to the fediverse and the self-hosting aspect šŸ¤”

library_napper, (edited ) in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**
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TIL Win10 is the modern-day XP. And Win11 is the modern-day Vista.

SpaceCadet,
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Heh the comparison also holds if you use 10=Windows 7 and 11=Windows 8

Or 10=Windows 98 and 11=Windows ME

helpmyusernamewontfi, (edited ) in I'm so frustrated rn.

What do you want out of your system?

There are two more I’d reccomend as its what my family and friends have been using and have ran into literally, zero issues.

Linux mint (specifically cinnamon edition) is very stable, and customizable if you’re into that sorta thing, you can install custom kernels and get greatly improved performance out of gaming if thats your thing. It’s built off of Ubuntu (but just better) so there’s great support for it, especially with devices such as printers.

Fedora Kinoite is a solid, also well supported, immutable distribution which will either make your life easier, or more difficult.

Immutable means you can’t change anything in your root directory, so basically your ā€œC: Driveā€. You still have a regular file system and can install all your apps, but the operating system stays the same as everyone else’s and is something that by design, never breaks and ā€œjust worksā€, and is what I personally use.

Pop_OS is definitely another option if you have ā€œnewerā€ hardware and Linux Mint doesn’t work for you and you don’t like the immutability of Fedora Kinoite (you can always try regular Fedora KDE). But I’d personally reccomend just the first two. But Pop is also built off of Ubuntu, so you still get that great hardware support.

But please, avoid stock Ubuntu. Ubuntu has far gone away from being a beginner, ā€œjust worksā€ distro.

Hope this helped! Please reply or message me if you have any issues or are confused, or you can always ask for some more help within this community as well!

Kawi,

Thanks for the information, I’ll check them out.

tom42, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?
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Another NixOS user.

BlanK0, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

Linux mint for sure

library_napper,
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Linux mint with xfce

BlanK0,

Xfce, cinnamon or KDE šŸ‘

toastal, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

NixOS, would like to try Guix

moon, (edited ) in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

This is universally regarded as the best distro for beginners and veterans.

https://lemmy.cafe/pictrs/image/f02950f3-f4e1-4828-a0f2-564be4b5a3f7.webp

Clbull,

Does HML actually exist?

ArcticAmphibian,

Yes

init,
Adincar, in What's your experiences with Debian and Rocky as a homeserver OS?

I’m using Rocky on my main server at the moment, I was/am used to Debian based operating systems beforehand but wanted to learn red hat without dealing with Oracle directly.

It was definitely a step curve getting to understanding the os but I’m quite happy with the stability of Rocky and it does everything I need and more. I think the real question is which would you get more enjoyment out of as far as learning and personally I don’t think the learning curve is as steep with Debian.

The best thing I can advise is just back up your data regularly and if you’re not vibing or something breaks don’t be afraid to change to something different, though as an arch user I’m sure you’re used to things breaking.

lemmyvore, in What's your experiences with Debian and Rocky as a homeserver OS?

Debian stable is a very solid choice for a server OS.

It depends on how you’re going to host your services though. Are you going to use containers (what kind), VMs, a mix of the two, install directly on the host system (and if so where do you plan to source the packages)?

I’ve kept my Debian system very basic, installed latest Docker from the official apt repo, and I’ve installed almost every service in a docker container. Only things installed directly on host are docker, ssh, nfs and avahi.

PrivateNoob,

I’m going full container mode if it’s possible, or just make the docker images myself then.

  • Jellyfin
  • Onedrive alternative (probably Nextcloud)
  • Personal website + it’s backend, or just the backend (Might won’t host this tho, since it’s a high security risk to my personal data)
  • Pi-hole
  • Probably other ideas which seems fun to host
lemmyvore,

Make sure you use a docker image that tracks the stable version of Jellyfin. The official image jellyfin/jellyfin tracks unstable. Not all plugins work with unstable and switching to stable later is difficult. This trips lots of people and locks them into unstable because by the time they figure it out they’ve customized their collection a lot.

The linuxserver/jellyfin image carries stable versions but you have to go into the ā€œTagsā€ tab and filter for 10. to find them (10.8.13 pushed 16 days ago is the latest right now).

To use that version you say ā€œimage: linuxserver/jellyfin:10.8.13ā€ in your docker compose instead of ā€œlinuxserver/jellyfin:latestā€.

This approach has the added benefit of letting you control when you want to update Jellyfin, as opposed to :latest which will get updated whenever the container (re)starts if there’s a newer image available.

While upgrading your images constantly sounds good in theory, eventually you will see that sometimes the new versions will break (especially if they’re tracking unstable versions). When that happens you will want to go back to a known good version.

What I do is go look for tags every once in a while and if there’s a newer version I comment-out the previous ā€œimage:ā€ line and add one with the new version, then destroy and recreate the container (the data will survive because you configure it to live on a mounted volume, not inside the container), then recreate with the new version. If there’s any problem I can destroy it, switch back to the old version, and raise it again.

PrivateNoob,

Oh that explains the 2 linuxserver and official jellyfin then. It was always kinda strange to me.

Luckily my uni hosted a docker course and binge watched a beginner Linkedin Learning too about it, but I’m really grateful for your in-depth guide. Guys like you really make Lemmy the old Reddit you used to have and cherish in your hearts. :3

idefix,

The official image jellyfin/jellyfin tracks unstable

Why did they make that choice? I am on this version right now, didn’t know it was unstable. I found it very difficult to have information regarding the docker images in general, it’s a pity we don’t have a few lines explaining what the content is.

lemmyvore,

It’s more like ā€œlatestā€ tracks unstable, because unstable evolves much faster and it puts out versions more often. Unfortunately there’s a practice going around that makes people just the :latest tag for everything and they don’t always stop to consider the implications (which may be different for each project).

hedgehog,

I thought the official jellyfin images on the versioned tags (like ā€œ10.8.13ā€) were stable - are they not?

lemmyvore,

Oh right, I filtered for ā€œ10.ā€ and got an unstable image and thought they don’t have them. Yeah those are stable too.

SpaceCadet,
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The official image jellyfin/jellyfin tracks unstable

Huh? That doesn’t appear to be the case. jellyfin/jellyfin:latest, which is what they tell you to use in the installation instructions. gives me 10.8.13 which appears to be the latest stable release.

There are newer and unstable versions available in dockerhub as well, but latest doesn’t give you those. After all latest is just a tag with no special meaning of itself, it doesn’t necessarly give you the most recent build.

Vincent, in Introducing Spiel

This looks fantastic and I want it now. I hope they pull it off.

ElectroLisa, in Is it possible to isolate which GUI programs are seem by a screensharing program in xorg or wayland ?
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To my knowledge it’s impossible in X, unless you run apps on separate X servers.

Wayland handles this by default, with the exception of Xwayland apps

Holzkohlen, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

Pfff my systemd is version 255.2-2, I am lightyears ahead.

gianmarco, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

Fedora 39 anyone?

13617,

Shit takes like 30 minutes to update 😭😭

tho, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...
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freebsd is 14 something too

Turtle, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**
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Mint šŸ’Æ

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