How many of you run a Linux phone (Pine64, Librem etc) as your daily driver?

I was going through Pine64’s page again after I found the latest KDE announcement. With that said, I seem to see a lot of issues with firmware on the Pine, whilst the Librem is just plain out of budget for me. Was interested in how many people here run a Linux mobile as a daily driver, and how has your experience been?

I’m considering purchasing the Pine but I’d like a better screen, more RAM and a better CPU. Don’t know if I should wait for a new model to be released (are they even planning to do that? Is the company active?). I will only really use it to browse the Web, and might even look to desolder a couple of parts that I know I won’t use.

Thanks.

Edit: I am willing to watch content and use banking apps from the browser. Do you think it’ll be fit for me?

Edit 2: overall, I am much saddened about the state of affairs regarding private computing on the go. I desperately hope that Linux on mobile takes off, even though its incubation looks disheartening at the moment. Thank you everyone for your comments.

itsaj26744,
@itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

I use Kaios , Another embedded linux

Helix,

Which phone?

itsaj26744,
@itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

Jiophone F220b

MigratingtoLemmy,

Do you specifically use feature-phones?

itsaj26744,
@itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

Life is nice this way, No bzz, Everything supposed to be done by a phone is handled perfectly by this small thing and for rest (like office,game and code) I go with PC

MigratingtoLemmy,

How do you do instant messaging? Isn’t typing with that harder than average?

itsaj26744,
@itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

That’s also a thing but I use xmpp,matrix on pc (which I rarely do). BTW I forgot to mention I am full time student so…

MigratingtoLemmy,

Essentially, your usage of your mobile ends with calling?

Unfortunately, that won’t work for me since I need a browser to check my accounts and other needs on the move

itsaj26744,
@itsaj26744@programming.dev avatar

I have actually tied everything to my email so all updates are in my inbox. Calling + email,music,text,calendar,notes,todo and we have a brower for basic ddg searches

tanakian,

for about one year i used exclusively motorola droid4 as mobile device. it runs maemo-leste: mobile linux distribution with nokia’s hildon desktop (revived maemo fremantle sources) on top of devuan linux.

i also myself maintain about ten packages in maemo-leshe repository.

but most of the people won’t use motorola droid 4 and maemo-leste.

they won’t tolerate small screen and they need their ‘apps’ for ‘banking’ or ‘twitter’ or whatever.

i do not use banking apps or twitter or reddit or instagram or whatever they use, so i don’t care.

i used pidgin on that device, even connected to ‘ms teams’ for work via pidgin.

worked more stabre than real ‘teams’ client, but of course pidgin is not the mosh usable app on a small screen.

today i use dino on it for e2e encrypted xmpp messaging. in devuan chimaera dino is old and buggy. well what can i do?

it is okay.

but how many people are ready to give up shiny androids or ioses for this cyberpunk device?

even camera doesn’t work on it.

well, it is normal for mobile linux distributions that camera doesn’t work ot most devices. if it works for photos then not for videos.

well i carry an old small point and shoot with me. i think though it is crappy it makes pdotos better than many phones do.

but i cannot recognize qrcodes with phone.

recently i am trying to use pinephone.

it is more powerful and it has more recent software in postmarketos. my environment is sxmo. it is hde best phone environment ever created, i think. but how many people will agree with me? even pinephone users prefer phosh or kde plasma or something more fancy.

‘’‘’‘’‘’'what i do with pinephone?

first of all i charge it always. it is like tamagocci, if you don’t feed it it will die. so i carry a power bank with me.

it runs about six hours if i dont touch it (without suspend) and about two hours if i run dino.

in best case, if dino won’t make the device unresponsive.

i have an open source program called songrec on it, it can use shazam api and it recognizes music played around. it is a very useful app. and it is adaptive, works in both portrait and landsgape modes.

what else do i do with it? well, browse the web sometimes. but it is often a torture. and i wondur why dont i just do the same on laptop.

yeah and podcasts with gpodder-adaptive.

and radio with shortwave.

i know why i do this: i want to use mostly libre software so i am ready for inconveniences. but not many people are ready to this.

for many years i used sailfish. it is very polished. i would recommend it to ‘regular people’ instead of android.

but i do not like that it doesn’t run on mainline on most devices, so proprietary linux kernel is necessary, the ui framework isn’t libre so we cannot use an app we used to on other platform most of the time. so u r getting locked to sailfish. it is hard to leave it because u cannot take your apps with you. in order to port apps written with their silica classes one needs to rewrite the ui completely.

so i am a person who only used linux phones for years asd i know it is not easy foc regular people.

for me it is ok. i do not need much more than sxmo as environment. i only wish pinephone to not hang as often because of dino. (:

tanakian,

for about one year i used exclusively motorola droid4 as mobile device. it runs maemo-leste: mobile linux distribution with nokia’s hildon desktop (revived maemo fremantle sources) on top of devuan linux.

i also myself maintain about ten packages in maemo-leshe repository.

but most of the people won’t use motorola droid 4 and maemo-leste.

they won’t tolerate small screen and they need their ‘apps’ for ‘banking’ or ‘twitter’ or whatever.

i do not use banking apps or twitter or reddit or instagram or whatever they use, so i don’t care.

i used pidgin on that device, even connected to ‘ms teams’ for work via pidgin.

worked more stabre than real ‘teams’ client, but of course pidgin is not the mosh usable app on a small screen.

today i use dino on it for e2e encrypted xmpp messaging. in devuan chimaera dino is old and buggy. well what can i do?

it is okay.

but how many people are ready to give up shiny androids or ioses for this cyberpunk device?

even camera doesn’t work on it.

well, it is normal for mobile linux distributions that camera doesn’t work ot most devices. if it works for photos then not for videos.

well i carry an old small point and shoot with me. i think though it is crappy it makes pdotos better than many phones do.

but i cannot recognize qrcodes with phone.

recently i am trying to use pinephone.

it is more powerful and it has more recent software in postmarketos. my environment is sxmo. it is hde best phone environment ever created, i think. but how many people will agree with me? even pinephone users prefer phosh or kde plasma or something more fancy.

what i do with pinephone?

first of all i charge it always. it is like tamagocci, if you don’t feed it it will die. so i carry a power bank with me.

it runs about six hours if i dont touch it (without suspend) and about two hours if i run dino.

in best case, if dino won’t make the device unresponsive.

i have an open source program called songrec on it, it can use shazam api and it recognizes music played around. it is a very useful app. and it is adaptive, works in both portrait and landsgape modes.

what else do i do with it? well, browse the web sometimes. but it is often a torture. and i wondur why dont i just do the same on laptop.

yeah and podcasts with gpodder-adaptive.

and radio with shortwave.

i know why i do this: i want to use mostly libre software so i am ready for inconveniences. but not many people are ready to this.

for many years i used sailfish. it is very polished. i would recommend it to ‘regular people’ instead of android.

but i do not like that it doesn’t run on mainline on most devices, so proprietary linux kernel is necessary, the ui framework isn’t libre so we cannot use an app we used to on other platform most of the time. so u r getting locked to sailfish. it is hard to leave it because u cannot take your apps with you. in order to port apps written with their silica classes one needs to rewrite the ui completely.

so i am a person who only used linux phones for years asd i know it is not easy foc regular people.

for me it is ok. i do not need much more than sxmo as environment. i only wish pinephone to not hang as often because of dino. (:

treadful,
@treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

Would love to. Seems like the only real option is the Purism phone but I was burned pretty hard by one of their laptops. Don’t want to roll the dice.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Too expensive for me. Not considering

helenslunch, (edited )
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

We can’t even get widespread adoption on workstations, what are the chances we’ll ever get them on mobile?

It’s all the same problems. There aren’t nearly enough people using it for developers to spend their time developing compatible versions of their software, much less ones with a mobile-friendly interface.

Maybe they’ll work with PWAs but those still suck.

cows_are_underrated,

There’s a simple reason to change that: use it. Recommend it to your friends. And yet there are great Linux mobile OSes(as example Graphen OS.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I couldn’t possibly recommend it to anyone who is not a programmer. It doesn’t work for shit. The simplest and most basic things like just installing software is nigh-impossible for normies.

EddoWagt,

Graphene OS isn’t anymore Linux than any other Android rom

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