Toldry,
@Toldry@lemmy.world avatar

I’m actually looking into buying a new laptop and seriously considering choosing some Linux distro as my new OS (I’ve always used Windows before, and Mac once for work)

How do y’all recommend which laptop I should choose?

UnfortunateShort, (edited )

Whatever you do, pick one that ships with Linux or is at least explicitly marked as compatible.

You do not want the headache of having a laptop with this one component that genuinely doesn’t work properly. Most will work, but for example fingerprint scanners are a very touchy subject. My freakin battery is not properly recognized by anything that isn’t Windows. It’s stupid, some just don’t care about existing, well defined, open standards.

Personally I’d go with a Framework laptop. Otherwise Tuxedo or System76 might have something you like.

udon,

Tuxedo is great. Beautiful devices. I’ve been asked about this ramdomly 2-3 times by people along the lines of “wow, that’s a nice laptop, where did you get that?”. Component upgrades also at decent prices.

Linux compatibility though… Good, if you use one of their preinstalled/supported options, but can be a pain otherwise. I installed debian and still haven’t figured out all problems with sleep/hibernation mode. The tool they offer is some bloaty node js crap that doesn’t work well.

Other than that, I think if you buy any laptop that is maybe 2 years old you should be good. Best way to check is maybe to Google the model + Linux and see how others experienced it.

AlfredEinstein,

I’ve been happy with every thinkpad I’ve put Mint on.

Look at the refurbished ones on ebay

dan, (edited )
@dan@upvote.au avatar

I just preordered a Framework 16 inch because their concept is amazing and early reviews are pretty good. It’s a laptop where every part is replaceable and upgradable. You can replace/upgrade the motherboard/CPU, RAM, NVMe storage, keyboard, display, etc. all yourself, and they sell the parts separately. Even the ports on the sides are swappable - you can choose to make them all USB-C ports, or make any of them USB-A, 3.5mm audio, 2.5Gbps Ethernet, DisplayPort, HDMI, MicroSD reader, etc.

They have a 13 inch version that’s already shipping today… The 16 inch is a preorder to ship Q2 2024. Their newer ones use an AMD CPU and AMD graphics which should work better on Linux than Nvidia graphics.

More expensive than a regular laptop company though… They don’t have the scale that Dell, Lenovo, etc have so parts are more expensive for them (plus large R&D costs).

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Get a Slimbook. They’re good laptops, and they let you choose which Linux distro is installed out the box.

There’s even a KDE version if their Plasma desktop environment is your cup of tea.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Or get the kde version and install another kde distribution, just to show them.

Ghostbanjo1949,

I’ve been using MainGear laptops for about 15 years now. It’ll come with Windows and I’ve either dual booted or just wiped it to install Linux everytime. Great prices for what you get hardware wise. My first laptop I bought from them is still running and in use. Never had an issue with Linux running the hardware. But prior to them almost every laptop I had I had issues all from the bigger makers.

MajorHavoc,

I missed the “PornHub” in the corner at first. Maybe I won’t share this with colleagues…

Johanno,

So what we can see is that Linux user watch 31% more porn?

m_r_butts,

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  • MajorHavoc,

    Agreed. PornHub is probably a pretty solid representation of all web traffic. --Todo: insert obvious joke here–.

    s_s,
    @s_s@lemmy.one avatar

    Porn sites have been at the forefront of nearly all online content innovation.

    MajorHavoc,

    That is true.

    SapphironZA,

    Year of the Steamdeck. Praise Gaben!

    ExLisper,

    Nah, it was all me. All of it.

    Secret300,

    Just found another PC in the dump and installed Linux on it. That makes 1,984

    ramble81,

    I hate when people say “oh we had 100% growth!” Ignoring the fact they went from 4 to 8 clients. Meanwhile the one that only shows 0.5% growth considers 8 people a rounding error.

    There’s liars, damn liars and statisticians.

    ISMETA,

    Relevant xkcd: xkcd.com/1102/

    FaeDrifter,

    I hate when people respond to a post with a little anecdote that is completely irrelevant to the original post.

    ramble81,

    I’ll feed the troll… it’s very relevant with the bottom part of the graphic. It’s touting that it’s got the biggest increase of traffic change at ~32%, however overall it still only has a 3.2% share. That ties in exactly what what I’m stating and the xkcd that was posted too. There was nothing anecdotal or that was irrelevant in my post.

    FaeDrifter,

    Ignoring the fact they went from 4 to 8 clients.

    You think the 3.2% is on the order of single digits of machines? You think 3.2% market share is 8 people?

    Obviously you don’t. It’s 10s of thousands of machines and you exaggerated the actual situation so far it no longer made any sense.

    Vorticity, (edited )

    Okay, so here’s some more easily interpreted numbers. In addition to having the largest change in traffic share relative to its previous share, Linux actually had the largest change in actual traffic share. It was just BARELY above Mac OS. If more significant digits were allowed here, Linux rose 0.0085 while Mac OS rose 0.0082.

    OS 2023 Share 2022 Share Share Change
    Windows 0.632 0.647 -0.015
    Mac OS 0.292 0.284 0.008
    Linux 0.036 0.027 0.009
    Chrome Book 0.029 0.026 0.003
    Other 0.011 Unknown* 0.005*

    2022 percentages computed as:

    
    <span style="color:#323232;">share_2022 </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">= </span><span style="color:#323232;">share_2023 </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">/ </span><span style="color:#323232;">( </span><span style="color:#0086b3;">1 </span><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#a71d5d;">+ </span><span style="color:#323232;">relative_percent_change )
    </span>
    

    and percent change computed as:

    
    <span style="color:#323232;">absolute_percent_change = share_2023 - share_2022
    </span>
    
    • The relative percent change for “other” is not reported in the graphic. There is a remainder of 0.005 in the Share Change which is, presumably, attributable to change in the “other” category.

    Last year’s results

    I just found last year’s results. It looks like my math bears out, though it appears that they rounded differently.

    Notably, last year’s changes were very different.

    OS 2022 Share 2021 Share Share Change
    Windows 0.647 0.646 0.001
    Mac OS 0.284 0.273 0.011
    Linux 0.028 0.028 0.000**
    Chrome Book 0.025 0.025 0.000**
    Other 0.011 Unknown*** 0.015***

    ** Linux and Chrome Book’s absolute change was less than 0.0005.

    *** As with 2023, the percentage change for “other” is not reported in the graphic. There is a remainder of 0.012 in the Share Change which is, presumably, attributable to change in the “other” category. This seems large, though, given that the total traffic share for “other” is only 0.016. That would imply a change from 0.001 to 0.012. Looking at the 2021 numbers this doesn’t appear to be correct.

    vexikron, (edited )
    vsh,
    @vsh@lemm.ee avatar

    +31% bot traffic 😄

    gravitas_deficiency,

    There are dozens of us!

    baseless_discourse,

    The three linux users finally found a friend to masturbate with. Leading to a 33% increase in linux user visit.

    teft,
    @teft@startrek.website avatar
    PropaGandalf,

    I’m doing my part!

    joeyv120,

    🫡

    juli, (edited )

    6.5% of all desktop users is insane

    What’s other? Freebsd?

    What about the streaming share? Like, who is watching the most?

    atocci,
    @atocci@kbin.social avatar

    Other: TempleOS

    Hubi,

    Heresy. It was gods will to not include networking capabilities.

    ILikeBoobies,

    Other can be consoles

    RedIce25,

    How many Steam deck users are looking up porn?

    DharmaCurious,
    @DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

    At least one!

    fiercekitten,

    I hope you dock it first or you’re going to end up with a sprained wrist and a sticky deck.

    DharmaCurious,
    @DharmaCurious@startrek.website avatar

    … Don’t kink shame me

    0ops,

    New-to-me technology never feels broken in and truly “mine” until that first wack

    Phoenix3875,

    Is it comfortable to use with a single hand? Asking for a friend.

    Darorad,

    Nah, it’s pretty heavy

    lazynooblet,
    @lazynooblet@lazysoci.al avatar

    They meant the steam deck

    Luky3000,

    Linux is cumming my friends. 🥳

    dutchkimble,

    Who are these others I wonder

    baseless_discourse, (edited )

    The year of netbsd desktop!

    jawa21,

    OpenVMS, obviously.

    savvywolf,
    @savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

    You know, I do wonder how many of these statistics are influenced by Linux users tendancy to use adblockers and block tracking. Linux could be more popular than it looks.

    Also, they should tell us how much of that increase is due to the Steam Deck. :P

    juli,

    An adblocker does not hide the os

    TheGrandNagus,

    No but it could potentially block the tracker that’s used to verify it

    Pantherina,

    True, btw I am on Windows 10 Chrome 😉

    lightnegative, (edited )

    Found the closet Arch user

    Nix,
    @Nix@lemmy.world avatar

    Unfortunately, due to the constant willful or untested shenanigans of various website I have set up all my system’s Firefox profiles to spoof by default its user agent (and other JavaScript properties) as Windows 11, x86_64, Firefox LTS (even if I use latest, Aurora or beta). Some blantant recent example: YouTube uses lower quality options on browsers running on Arm-based systems — misreporting as an x86 CPU appears to be a widespread browser fix

    Doing so has helped me and many friends/family I switched to a flavor of Linux (mostly Mint, but sometimes LMDE or Ubuntu or specific requirements/demands) avoid numerous dumb problems.

    Even on mobile sometimes UX breaking issues creep up.

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