stebo02,
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Marvel movies have never peaked because it was a downwards slide from the start

Frozengyro,

Either they all are the same quality or one was better than others, therefore creating a peak.

stebo02, (edited )
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

Look at f(x) = e^-x and tell me where the peak is.

A peak is only when it first gets better, then worse.

Custoslibera,

It’s hard to argue that the first Ironman didn’t completely reboot and reframe the entirety of the marvel franchise and superhero movie genre.

Is it a critically acclaimed movie? No.

But it should still be recognised as the starting point for a massive popular culture shift.

SuiXi3D,
@SuiXi3D@kbin.social avatar

I mean, I still enjoy ‘em. They ain’t perfect, but nothing is.

baatliwala, (edited )

I thought comic book movies were in decline until the Batman came out. The question is if Marvel is willing to part from their generic formula so their movies feel fresh.

Marvel needs some good direction from a management level, they need to build an Avengers team of writers who can really think of an overarching plot and have an end goal. They keep introducing new characters and then just don’t use them at all (where is Shang Chi?), their IP is spread out too much across unnecessary TV shows, they need to get their budget under control because somehow everything costs a billion, and their end product is worsened by the fact that their VFX teams are being overrun. This is Kevin Feige’s time to shine more than ever and he needs to show Disney that he can earn that pay.

Ranvier,

Exactly. I was a big fan of the Batman, adapting the neo noir feel really helped it stand out.

Disney is kind of starting to figure this out on the star wars side with Andor and the Mandalorian. Creating unique stories with varying, structure, genre and tone. Every marvel movie just feels so generic and blends into every other, gets boring. Wanda vision had a glimmer of genius before devolving back to generic marvel meh stuff.

Pharmacokinetics,
@Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world avatar

My god End Game was trash. It qas terribly rushed. They should’ve just ended it in Infinity war with a cliff hanger.

kandoh,

I wonder what the impact of that would be on the population psychologically.

socsa,

Rushed, and yet still somehow way too long.

CertifiedBlackGuy,

Shoulda been a trilogy with a proofreader

loaExMachina, (edited )

Is this a staged joke? Is everyone here in some conspiracy to make me believe that either the world went mad or I did? Why is everyone calling every Marvel movie “peak” but the first Iron Man? Obviously, this was the best one.

MalachaiConstant,

It was all downhill from there for me too

altima_neo, (edited )
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I feel like comic book movies in general, peaked. Marvel nor DC have made anything that gets close.

I think the big reason is that marvel had to make due with it’s B and C suite of characters, after they sold the rights of to their most popular franchises, like X-Men and Spiderman. They had to step their writing game up to overcome the limited popularity of the characters.

Fades,

The Marvels was a fun movie tho

Moonrise2473,

There are too many. The other day I saw the latest flash movie. It’s the second? Third? Fourth? I don’t know because they don’t put a number and I don’t care enough. Too many stuff referenced other movies or series making watching a bit of a hassle. Is this just unknown and will be told later for making the movie interesting, or it’s because the audience is supposed to having watched 40 hours of previous works?

If they really need to push a new superhero movie or series every 2 months, their stories should be self contained, at most separated in a trilogy. Not an infinite parallel universe constantly self referenced that needs a guide that tells you which content you need to watch and in which order.

angrystego,

The Flash is not MCU. The rest is true.

UnspecificGravity,

This is why the whole “marvel vs DC” thing is fucking stupid. Most people don’t know or care about that difference, they just know they saw a shitty superhero movie. Better movies overall help both companies.

Moonrise2473,

Lol I’m so out of touch that only now I noticed it’s DC

LOL that’s why there was batman at the beginning

I was genuinely thinking it was Marvel ignoring all the references to the justice league. Like, my mind shutted off at the beginning of the movie, just watching the action but ignoring the story

LOL i can’t believe I did such a mistake

KepBen,

Marvels was good, trolls getting mad about it are also good, really just a good time to be alive entertainment-wise

Chetzemoka,

The Marvels was poorly paced and I don’t know if that’s more the fault of the editing or the directing. But holy shit the individual pieces were so. good.

The interactions between the leads, the evolution of the fight scenes to integrate the problem and turn it into an advantage. Princesses and kittens are not my kind of deal, but they were absolutely perfect in this movie and I was thrilled to see them. Kamala Khan being a superhero with a normal, well-adjusted, loving family is one of my favorite things about her character.

My frustration and disappointment with this and with The Eternals is this had all the pieces to be a great Marvel movie, but the pieces didn’t get assembled properly somehow. I don’t know what changed about their production process, but if they can fix it, they still have good content to build great movies on. Haters bedamned.

the_q,

People sure love yucking other people’s yums.

DrMango,

People are allowed to dislike things

the_q,

Yup quietly without diminishing others enjoyment…

sederx,

If your enjoyment is diminished by other people not liking it you are just a hipster.

xeekei,

I thought it was the opening of Lady Gaga’s Poker Face.

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

That would have been funny too

wraithdrone,

Honestly, as far as the ensemble movies go, I personally think Marvel peaked with the first Avengers movie…

rchive,

Winter Soldier is the peak for me, with Civil War just barely below it.

Blackmist, (edited )

Hard agree. The others just don’t give any characters enough to time to do anything other than show, do a bit of fan service, and fuck off again. Endgame is a complete clusterfuck.

The only things that have been anywhere near that good since are the Spiderman (maybe not the middle one) and Guardians of the Galaxy (James Gunn is just at home doing this stuff) movies.

I wanted the Taika Waititi and Sam Raimi films to be a lot better than they were, and they just feel too constrained by the House of Mouse for the kind of directors they are.

ZombiFrancis,

I felt that way after Spiderman 3.

Jazz hands!

Cosmicomical,

If anything the peak was infinity wars. But tbh just finished watching s02 of loki and it's absolutely excellent. I have tons of critique but still it's very good.

TransplantedSconie,

Yeah, Loki Season 2 was awesome.

runjun,

Loki season 2 was peak of all marvel and it’s not even close for me.

gnuplusmatt, (edited )

Yes endgame was good, but fuck if people aren’t now comparing the “weekly episodes” to what was essentially the epic 2 part seaon finale.

spoiler plusseason 2 of Loki was as good as anything they’ve done___

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