ACardboardRaven,
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At this point I’m not whether sure I should be angry, cry, or laugh while crying.

Facelikeapotato,
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“We’ve tried nothin’ and we’re all out of ideas!”

lnee,

I hear a bunch of N thing needs to happen, but the question is will that N solution help. The question to ask is, has someone run a study on N solution, and if so what’s the next best solution. Gather data like where are the things of interest happening e.g. region of city. Make shore that N solution does not try to fix a symptom and disregard a source problem. Is N thing is symptom there can be many sources which have different solutions.

GarbageShoot,

Like climate change, this mostly is not an intellectual question. Good answers in theory don’t matter if you have a reactionary political establishment that refuses to implement it.

lnee,

Like for climate change bad solutions exist and if people are pushing back you should listen, a solution maby it’s not good anoth maby we are spending time getting bad solutions to work when we should work on find new solutions.

GarbageShoot,

Like for climate change, waiting and doing nothing when we already have a wealth of research on the subject will do much more damage than even the worse solutions that the data still supports [rather than moronic, unsupported solutions like giant ice machines].

Like for climate change, the pushback is mainly based on people being paid to push back and the astroturfing funded by the same people in a litany of campaigns that have gone on for decades. People disagreeing do not, by the very fact of being “people disagreeing”, have a valid point, and usually they do not in the context of these subjects.

lnee,

Give me ten pitfalls for green tech.

GarbageShoot,

I’m sorry?

lnee,

Every piece of tech has trade-offs list ten for green tech.

GarbageShoot,

Why ten? How many does “lithium batteries are made with a substantial amount lithium” count for?

Beyond that, I’m not just some bullshit technocrat, I don’t believe that “innovating your way out of the apocalypse” is almost ever possible. Yeah, we should move away from car-centric infrastructure, which could be conflated for arguing for “green tech” because, compared to cars, trains, bikes, scooters, etc. are green tech, but overwhelmingly my suggestions are policy-side because stopping the destruction of the earth is not a sci-fi pipe dream, it is a materially feasible goal and has been for as long as capitalists have been destroying it.

lnee,
GarbageShoot,

I think that I already explained that I don’t really give a shit about this

UlyssesT,

“‘No Way To Improve This Somewhat Without Excessive Studies And Data Gathering,’ Says Apologist For The Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens”

Aux,

You can take a look at regulations in other countries. They work. Everywhere. There’s no need to ask questions, everything was already answered all over the world.

CarterDarter,

Obviously there’s a solution! Give underpaid and abused teachers guns and ask them to shoot a teenager with zero followup on mental health for the teacher!

/S

Genuinely makes me sick how many people have said this to me, that teachers just need to be armed

sin_free_for_00_days,

When I had two fellow teachers tell me (not at the same time, like a week apart) that they agreed and wanted their rights respected so they could carry at work, well, I figured it was about time for me to bow out of the profession.

Lucidlethargy,

I’ve never heard anyone say this… Is there a quote I missed? Was it a conservative asshole?

Isycius,

Well, to be fair, what they meant to say is “There is no way to prevent this while not changing gun law, state of mental healthcare, income inequality in economic classes, or criminal law and policing issues.” which is correct statement overall.

masinko,

That title is what the Onion (a satirical/parody news site) uses every time there is a major mass shooting in America.

UlyssesT,

For those that don’t know the reference, this is traditionally posted each and every time a mass shooting happens in FreedomLand.

theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nat…

Lucidlethargy,

That’s the onion. It’s a satirical website.

usernamesaredifficul,

it’s also weird to have traditions about it

UlyssesT,

It’s weirder that there’s a phenomenon that happens particularly in one nation that claims nothing can be done about the phenomenon.

usernamesaredifficul,

well everything about american politics makes sense when you consider that the US constitution is just a bad basis for a country

the government just shutting down on a semi-regular basis for example. That’s very disfunctional and not normal

dingleberry,

“Active Shooter”

It’s like reading about a hurricane. Almost a weather phenomenon.

designatedhacker,

There are far fewer hurricanes. You also get a couple days warning on most weather events. I take your point though, between waking up to seeing a related push message and seeing this meme I had forgotten about it.

At least it appears nobody died, only 5 injured.

FuckyWucky,

At least four people were wounded, none critically, in a shooting at Morgan State University in Baltimore on Tuesday, according to authorities, who urged students to take shelter on the campus of the historically Black college.

No one dead, Americans won’t care.

Kecessa,

Heck, the government doesn’t consider it a mass shooting unless there’s three people that died! How fucked up is that?

Lucidlethargy,

Fuck you.

-An American

deezbutts,

✅ hbcu

✅ no casualties

✅ Dispute “between two groups”

Had to Ctrl+f to even find it as a bullet point on the CNN front page…

xusontha,

They don’t care when someone does die either…

Facebones, (edited )

Some people actively get mad too when you mention that people died.

“Of course people died, here we go another fucking gun grab wrapped in a sob story. If all THOSE people had guns too it’d have never happened. This is what you get for being unprepared now stfu I’m shopping online for another AR. 🤷”

Honytawk,

Any country where you need a gun in order to feel safe walking around is a shithole.

ipkpjersi,

Yeah it’s kind of wild to me the number of people that think teachers having guns is a good idea, that way teachers can get into a shootout with students that go crazy. Absolutely insane.

Falafels,

Does it actually make you feel safer? I think I would feel less safe every time I remember I have a gun on me because I may need to use it.

Facebones,

None of those gun nuts have ever been able to answer my basic question about their stated goal of everyone carrying at all times -

You’re at a public event, few hundred+ people in attendance,everybody (even just most) are packing. A gun goes off. Every “Good guy with a gun” turns toward the sound while pulling their guns. You now have 50-100+ (adjusted for crowd size) people with guns drawn. How do you know which of the 50-100+ people actually fired their gun?

Noone has ever had any answer other than “oH yOuD kNoW” which, call me crazy, doesn’t really answer the question.

Uniquitous,

People have gone numb as an emotional safeguard. People have lives they’re trying to live, and if they fell to pieces every time someone got shot in this country they’d die of dehydration from all the crying.

TopRamenBinLaden,

There is so much death and cruelty in the world that if someone cares too much they are just bound to wind up depressed. It seems that the majority of people really only care about people that they are acquainted with, or if they witness the terrible thing in person. It’s just kind of built into human nature, otherwise we would be in a constant state of grief.

Things like mass shootings bother most empathetic people, in general. It’s just that life kind of has to go on, and all they can really do to try and change it is to vote for one of two lesser evils in some local or national election.

The problem is not really with the people. It’s with our crappy political system that is controlled by corporate lobbyists. The majority of US citizens don’t really seem to have a say. Source: Empathetic person with chronic depression.

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