Tankiedesantski,

In 150 years historians will be lamenting that we recorded everything we did and now they have to sift through terrabytes of memes, pointless arguments, and outright misdirection to get at anything resembling truth.

SocialMediaRefugee,

Your brain deliberately forgets trivial stuff. Do you really need to remember every lunch you had? Same goes for all the mundane stuff in history.

On the other hand so little of the mundane stuff was recorded that when we do see it it can be a window into how people actually lived, like Samuel Pepys diary. The daily stuff was so accepted as boring and common knowledge that it wasn’t considered worth recording.

SomeAmateur,

And stuff like that is absolutely facinating to me, in small doses anyway. I keep a journal and I think I’ll write a few pages about what my routine is. At home on the weekend and at work.

Uniquitous,

Anyone who has ever had to dig through an overly verbose log file is fine with this. 90% of what happens is tediously mundane.

mayo_cider,
@mayo_cider@hexbear.net avatar

I see it the other way around, we managed to pass on civilization for our children for 90% of the history without writing it down

Chapo_is_Red,

“In a way [my undertaking] is an entirely original science. In fact, I have not come across a discussion along these lines anywhere. I do not know if this is because people have been unaware of it…[but] perhaps [people] have written exhaustively on this topic, and their work did not reach us… The knowledge that has not come down to us is, after all, larger than the knowledge that has. Where are the sciences of the Persians…the Chaldaeans, the Syrians, the Babylonians…the Copts and their predecessors? The sciences of only one people, the Greeks, have come down to us…as for the sciences of others, nothing remains.”

Ibn Khaldun, 1332-1406 (as translated by Rosenthal)

CantaloupeAss,

omg thank u comrade new book to search for: Ibn Khaldun’s Muqaddimah

GarbageShoot,

Isn’t ancient Persian science pretty significant?

Chapo_is_Red,

To my knowledge, most of it from antiquity was lost. Whish is what Ibn Khaldun was speaking about, not the scholarship for the Islamic period.

GarbageShoot,

To clarify, I did mean the pre-Islamic Persians, but it looks like you’re right. There is evidence of engineering achievements but a lot was lost.

Lemmygradwontallowme,
@Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net avatar

Yes it does…

Blackmist,

That’s OK. We’re only interested in white history.

Greeks, Romans, Vikings, tell me more.

Aboriginals and Aztecs? They’re just some guys squatting on that land we found.

hackris,

This is probably sarcasm (I hope) and people still downvoted you

Uniquitous,

The universe is too small to contain the jerk-off motion in my soul.

Faresh,

I don’t think your title is grammatically correct. «very» starts with a consonant and therefore should be «Does it not pierce thy very heart?».

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Verily, thou art correct.

GarbageShoot,

The one good thing about leddit is that someone else usually writes comments like this, meaning I don’t feel compelled to.

GnomeKat,
@GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Life isn’t worth living just because it will be written down, so what if no one remembers, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

sorry but so what. we dont need to know everthing

gunpachi,

I used to say the same thing to my highschool history teacher. Little did I know, it would help me later on. I’m not talking about pointless dates - it’s the lessons that matter.

One can’t know everything, but knowing some of it enables us to prevent the mistakes that we would have made otherwise.

3valc,

Most of it was shit anyway and current history is shit too so it doesn’t matter.

outofemailaliases,
@outofemailaliases@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

yes but how much of that history is important? no doubt its still the majority, but i suspect that some of that 90% you mention is just some random irrelevant persons life. i should also mention that i am not a historian nor a statistics person so take what i say with a grain of salt.

UnverifiedAPK,

90% of the bullet points are unrecorded. If we’re counting every Joe Smoe, then 99.9999…% is unrecorded.

BluesF,

I would say considering homo sapiens have been around for ~250,000 years we need a lot of decimal places… if you want to consider prior homo species that’s 2.8 million years and honestly you might as well call it 100%.

dudinax,

Here’s something even sadder. We only need history because human lives are so short.

GreenTeaRedFlag,

I don’t see that as sad. Also, even if we lived four hundred years we’d still need to write things down because we’d eventually die.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Unless we were immortal and capable of remembering everything, we’d need history.

Wage_slave,
@Wage_slave@lemmy.ml avatar

And you are ultimately going to die as part of that 90% that won’t be remembered for anything at all no matter how big of a deal you view yourself in any form function or manner.

Me too. It won’t be so bad. Unless they check the hard drive. Oh buddy then we’re historically remembered. Like, that’s a lotta porn.

7bicycles,

Oh buddy then we’re historically remembered. Like, that’s a lotta porn.

That ain’t special

grahamja,

The thought of having your digital foot print live on forever was kind of neat, but most of it wasn’t worth remembering or will probably get deleted after a few decades anyways. Future generations will ever know about the witty banter on yahoo answers.

TopRamenBinLaden,

Hey on the bright side, everybody in modern times has a pretty good chance to add a number to a statistic somewhere.

ProvokedGamer,
@ProvokedGamer@lemmy.ca avatar

What’s more awful? Most of the history we know is biased in favour of the winners.

frezik,

There’s lots of sources from the losing side. Josephus was a Jewish writer who told of the Roman destruction of the temple. The history of the Eastern Front of WWII, as it was known to the West, was dominated by the writings of German soldiers for a long time.

History is written by writers. For much of it, that means it comes to us from an educated upper class. That’s where the historical blind spots are.

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