turtlepower,

I have no problem respecting them as living, breathing people, but I will not feed their delusion. It is not a physical gender issue, it is a mental health issue - some sort of mental abnormality, like AD(H)D, BPD, Schizophrenia, etc. It is just an extreme form of body dysmorphia (they even call it gender dysmorphia). So why are we being forced to feed this delusion? Why are we mutilating people because of their mental illness? When someone has a mental illness, do we help them hurt themselves or others? No. We give them medication and therapy to try and get their system to function correctly. So why do we not do the same for trans people? It is not the same as being gay/les/bi/etc. That is physical and/or romantic attraction. That is not mental illness. Thinking your body is wrong or that you’re in the wrong body is. We need to stop treating it medically, and start treating it psychologically. Regardless, they are human beings and should be treated as such, with all the rights that go along with it.

Edit: How about instead of downvoting and telling me to fuck off, you answer my questions? I’m serious. I want to know why so many people get hostile when this shit is asked. Is it that hard to accept reality?

Oh, and as someone that’s part of LGBQA, I find it really strange that Trans is included in that since it’s gender and not sexuality. Especially when so many trans people complain about being fetishized.

miss_brainfart,
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Regardless, they are human beings and should be treated as such, with all the rights that go along with it.

And what rights are those, according to you? What human rights do you want for yourself?

turtlepower,
miss_brainfart,
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Good, you know your sources at least.

So, these rights protect a persons will to be who they want to be, and to do what they want to do. They aim to let a person live their life, unbothered.

Yes?

turtlepower,

Yes. So why are they bothering everyone else with it?

Remember a handful of years ago when all of a sudden everyone and their mother had a gluten allergy? That’s what this shit feels like. Yes, there are a lot of trans people out there. But I have encountered so fucking many, both on- and offline, that are just doing it to feel special.

miss_brainfart,
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To feel special, or to feel like themselves, which makes them feel excited and happy in a way they haven’t been in a long time, maybe ever?

People are feeling more and more comfortable to come out and be public with who they are, and that’s a good thing.

If you misinterpret that as a weird fad or trend to feel ✨special✨, then I don’t know what to tell you.

Maybe you should take a closer look at yourself, to figure out why it’s bothering you so much. I’m not trying to insinuate anything here, I don’t know you. Only you can come to a conclusion that makes sense.

But whatever that conclusion is, please find it. Take a step back and evaluate what you feel from a neutral distance.

turtlepower,

No, I know the difference between someone being giddy over finding themselves and someone doing it for attention. Unlike the fucking hexbears you see here throwing hate around, I know how to be introspective and self-reflect. I imagine it’s not uncommon for people to wonder what it’s like to be the opposite gender. My wife occasionally asks me what it really feels like to have a cock and balls. Hell, I’ve wondered what it really feels like to have a vagina and clit. But neither of us is going to change genders just to find out. It’s just natural curiosity. Trans people don’t bother me. Being browbeat is what bothers me.

Stamets,
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Earlier in this thread you claimed to be part of the LGBT community. Now you’re saying you’re in a heterosexual relationship with your wife. My guess is that you’re “bi” because you kissed a dude in college and didn’t hate the concept. Now you just believe that you’re bisexual and get to involve yourself in the community when you don’t have a place in it.

Even if you are legitimately bi, I’m here to inform you that the community wants nothing to do with you. You’re a small-minded and hateful bigot who keeps spreading lies. Nothing will change your mind because you believe you have full understanding. Immediately you have put yourself in a place of total ignorance on purpose because you’re afraid of your world view being shattered.

Now. I want you to think. Are you angry? Pissed off that I decided to take something about you and crumple it up, showing that it means nothing and using that against you? Awww. That sucks, huh? Then maybe you should stop doing it to other people when you are beyond clueless.

miss_brainfart,
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You know what’s curious about this whole exchange? Your orignal comment clearly went against trans people in general, but as soon as you got some well-deserved pushback, you backpedal and try to specify only disliking a certain type of person, like that makes it any better.

But anyway. Yeah, natural curiosity is perfectly normal. What’s it like to have this or that bodypart? Never boring to think about.

I don’t see what that has to do with anything, though.

While we’re still on the topic of wanting attention, I reckon I gave you enough of it, more than you deserve.

So again, if you know how to self-reflect, do that.

Gorilladrums,

I know this is a meme sub, but I firmly believe that the trans movement is going to either collapse or severely regress over the next few years. I think it’s already starting to happen. Hopefully I’m wrong.

can,

Movement?

Gorilladrums,

I don’t know where you and the other brainlets are brigading from, but what I said is not that complicated. Being trans isn’t a movement, but there’s a trans movement. That movement isn’t doing too hot, and the evidence is supporting that notion. Anti-trans views are spreading more and more, and if the issue is goin to continue to be ignored by people, do you know what’s going to happen? Anti-trans legislation is going to find it’s way into the law, and civil rights are going to regress. Idk about you, but that’s not a good thing in my book.

can,

Good job for insulting me within the first sentence.

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