Iron_Lynx,

Not gonna lie, that title sounds like it could be a Sabaton lyric.

AngryCommieKender, (edited )

youtu.be/gvjOG5gboFU?si=4imDnRPvbVWTQexp

It’s the Union version of Dixie

WaxedWookie,

Hey now - Texas has the state guard too - do you think the entire weight of the Pentagon, it’s carrier strike groups, and multiple branches of well-funded modern military is any match for ~1,600 good ol’ boys?

phoenixz,

This would be so much fun to watch. They wouldn’t be able to take the US army with them, US army bases would be dismantled, nukes would be removed, Mexico would be like “fuck no” and have no trade with them, and the US, being their former Union, would also give them the finger. Thousands, plug not millions of people would cross borders there to either leave or join the shit hole (because fuck the liberal US government!) causing a huge outflux of knowledge and competence and a huge influx of rednecks.

Let me be clear though: this will never happen, because the politicians calling for this know damn well that they’d be fucked. They’re just riling their base with dumb but popular rhetoric.

ComradeChairmanKGB,
@ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Just balkanize already

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

if texas did secede the federal US government would be blue for decades LMFAO. granted, texas is getting bluer by the day but still.

drdabbles, (edited )
@drdabbles@lemmy.world avatar

The missiles at night

Are big and bright

Launched at the heart of Texas

Anyway good luck being a large economy with no trade partners and ports blockaded.

Harbinger01173430, (edited )

In total war Warhammer, when playing as Karl Franz, what was the phrase that the advisor said as soon as the game began, when you had to deal with the secessionists at the south? Open dissent will not be tolerated or something? I thought of that when reading this post for some reason xD lol lmao

trafalgar225,

Are there any Warhammer novels that exist and do you recommend any?

Harbinger01173430,

Hell if I know, actually :( I just play the total war games. I think there are some books and other games from the fantasy franchise, if I recall my time taking a look at the lore using YouTube videos.

sagrotan,
@sagrotan@lemmy.world avatar

Joe Rogan packs his stuff again…

whenigrowup356, (edited )

Fun fact, there are 3 major power grids in the lower 48 united states’: the Eastern Interconnection, Western Interconnection, and Texas.

SpaceCowboy,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Another fun fact: The failure of one of those grids resulted in over 200 people freezing to death. Guess which one!

whenigrowup356,

Yeah that’s the irony, Texas wouldn’t even need to secede to fuck up its power grid.

NigelFrobisher,

Texarse.

Gennadios,

Most of the US military is mostly made up of conservatives, and red states are the only ones with some semblance of a manufacturing base as blue states nowadays are mostly IP farms. I dont think a hypothetical civil war will turn out as well as blue staters think.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Manufacturing is usually urban, and last I checked that’s where most blue is. Farming and agriculture is red, sure.

Military is split, infantry probably skews red but the AF seems mixed and the Navy is pretty liberal in my experience.

CptEnder,

Ok putting aside the obvious that 99% of US Military service members honor their oath to the Constitution and respect the chain of command serving the sitting President regardless of politics. Not least of which the DOD has been purging insurrectionist sympathisers the past few years.

So the brass tax of the US Military, our most valuable assets by a LOT are the US Navy. 2nd would be the USAF. Primary of which is arguably our Submarine force, followed by our sea warfare, then our air forces, and the rest of our nuclear arsenal.

Our largest sub base is in CT (blue).

The entirety of our carrier fleets are based in blue states - California, Hawaii, Virginia (blueish).

A significant portion of our nuclear stockpile is in Colorado (blue).

Anyway it all doesn’t matter because any insignificant numbers who would defect would be nowhere near the command of these critical assets. The only real annoyance of Texas seceding would be having to relocate NASA HQ lmao.

dubyakay,

What if Texas just does a Texit (akin to Brexit)? Or is that not possible?

WarmSoda,

It’ll never happen

dubyakay,

That wasn’t my question. It was whether it is theoretically possible or not. Brexit was a peaceful event with all its checks and processes in place.

FiskFisk33,

last time they tried there was a civil war, that pretty much sums up how legal it is.

nickhammes,

The EU had a documented process for a member state to leave. It was untested and messy, but it existed.

There’s no legal basis for a state to leave the US. Now it’s possible we let it happen despite this, with or without armed conflict, but it’s hard to imagine a hypothetical Texit not being messier than Brexit ever was

jonne,

Not sure if US law has a provision for this. Brexit was relatively orderly because the EU made sure there’s a process for it.

nadiaraven,

Absolutely positive the US does NOT have a provision for this. We fought a little war about it once.

nadiaraven,

The south tried to secede and we fought a war about it, so no, pretty sure it’s not possible.

deaf_fish,

I think the only two ways this can happen are is the federal government agrees to the succession or succession by force (aka civil war).

SpaceCowboy,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

This is correct. Unless of course the Supreme Court overturns the decisions by previous Supreme Courts.

Has anyone checked on Harlan Crow’s opinion on this?

SapphironZA,

The GOP would never be able to win the electoral college without Texas. So that’s why it will never happen.

But maybe we can trick Abbot, he might be stupid enough to fall for it?

ReplicantBatty,

I don’t know if it’s legally possible, but even if it was, it would never actually work. Texas is propped up with federal funding, our electric grid is slowly failing, and most people who wanted to stay a citizen of the United States would leave if they were able, which would completely fuck the job market, and leave mostly people who want to be Texans rather than Americans, and those people can’t run shit (hence the economicand infrastructure problems we already have). Or maybe I’m just talking out of my ass, idk. That’s my opinion as somebody who lives in Texas against their will.

test113,

Nope, it’s not possible. The only way it wouldn’t be treason is if all states agree, or if they start a revolution and are successful; every other attempt would simply be treason. Hence, one nation indivisible. I’m sure they know that; they just want to push as far as they can to make the political situation even more absurd in America. They want to widen the gap between the people. I don’t know who exactly profits from this situation, but it’s not the American people.

Here’s a video that explains it quite well: [Legal Egal] (youtu.be/1dhvry6E0jA?si=H62qIoiHzaLdJHQF)

Klear,

Isn’t treason legal in the US nowadays?

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Only if you pretend that you’re wealthy by committing massive fraud.

dylanmorgan,

Fucks sake I need to move.

brain_in_a_box,

Everyone here acting like the Biden administration is actually going to call their bluff and not just fold instantly is either terminally coping or only just started following politics today.

Rhynoplaz,

Let us dream, dammit!

nxdefiant,

I don’t know what his limit break is to transform into Dark Brandon and start going full Homelander, but I hope it’s close.

DogPeePoo,

Just seeing Alberta Canadian born Ted Cruz gone from the USA is more than enough for most of us

corsicanguppy,

Hey… he’s only HALF Albertan, so only half of our dumbest region. Whoever his other parent was, that person bears the rest of the responsibility for this deeply concerning narcissist.

DogPeePoo,

Sure, it’s just hilarious that “Lyin’ Ted” tries to pretend he is a Texan, when he was clearly born in Canada 🇨🇦

dubyakay,

Alberta might as well be Texas.

Powerpoint,

He’s more American than Canadian. You broke it you bought it.

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