santiagopim,
@santiagopim@lemmy.nz avatar

Aaaand … DD/MM/YYYY 🫠

MisterFrog,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

As much as I vehemently dislike US customary units, MM/DD/YYYY is the USA’s greatest notation crime.

magmaus3,
@magmaus3@szmer.info avatar

YYYY-MM-DD

cyberpunk007,

This, FTW

far_university1990,

this guy iso8601‘s

Knusper,

rfc3339’s

SuckMyWang,

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  • magmaus3,
    @magmaus3@szmer.info avatar

    why

    SuckMyWang,

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  • intrepid,

    Least important it may be. But it is the most significant. This scheme follows the conventional scheme we follow while writing numbers - the most significant digit to the left and significance reducing as we move right.

    The advantage of YYYY-MM-DD becomes when you add time to it in ISO-8601 or RFC 3339 format: YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ss. All the digits are uniformly decreasing in significance from left to right.

    This becomes even more apparent if you are trying to sort by time - say, a stack of files, or datetime in a computer. Try doing this with any other scheme.

    mjpc13,
    @mjpc13@programming.dev avatar

    YYYY-MM-DD is easier to get sorted since most significant number is on the left.

    RushingSquirrel,

    This one wouldn’t make sense as they say dates as month day, year.
    To me, dates should always be written in international format: YYYY-MM-DD

    happyhippo,

    Depends on context, IMO did/mm/yyyy is the most natural when writing some text, but partial ISO yyyy-mm-dd is ideal for when naming files and directories, makes lexicographical ordering follow chronological order.

    _TheThunderWolf_,

    I personally prefer dd-mm-yyyy because cutting stuff of the end to get dd-mm or dd is better imho. Just an opinion tho, use what you like.

    neumast,

    $ 50

    Do you call this fifty dollars, or dollar fifty?

    Lots of stuff is written differently, than it is spoken. In case of the date it is weird, not to go from biggest to smallest or vice versa. I guess you are used to it now, but for me it would be the same as putting seconds before minutes or inches before feet.

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Big-endian vs little-endian all over again

    alcoholicorn,

    Europeans acting smug like knowing how close to boiling the temperature is is more important than knowing how close to 100% hot out the temperature is.

    Kusimulkku,

    100% hot

    The what now

    psud,

    The hottest a specific person believed in. Obviously never visited $countryThatGetsHotter

    Masimatutu,

    100% hot out

    what does that even mean?

    XEAL,

    It’s 100% “me” hot out?

    doggle,

    100°F is roughly (like really roughly) the hottest temp your likely to see in most temperate climates throughout a year. 0°F is(again really roughly) the lowest. The result is you can use Fahrenheit basically as a percentage, or a 0 to 100 temperature score to help you decide how to dress/prepare for the day. If the temperature is above or below 100 or 0 then you need to consider fairly serious precautions before going outside for any length of time.

    It’s not a very precise system at all, and it obviously has no place in a laboratory or similar situation. But it does work quite well for communicating the weather to common people. There is very little desire among Americans to change to Celsius not because they don’t understand it (we’re all taught Celsius in grade school) but because Fahrenheit serves most people’s needs perfectly adequately.

    OP is also arguing that easily recalling the boiling temperature of water (one of the big purported advantages of Celsius) is useless for most people as nobody actually measures the temperature of water while boiling it. Except, maybe, in a classroom, probably while demonstrating to children how the Celsius scale works.

    Kusimulkku,

    Knowing when water freezes is really useful though for places that ice/snow.

    alcoholicorn,

    If it’s 0 F, it’s 0% hot out. If it’s 50 F, it’s 50% hot out, if it’s 100F, it’s 100% hot out.

    It’s a more human measurement. Who the hell knows how long a kilometer or meter is? Everyone knows what a football field looks like and a yard is 1/100th of it.

    doggle,

    I get what you’re saying, but only people who live in a country where (American) football is played would know how big a football field is.

    Masimatutu,

    I mean… I could say the same thing about Celsius and it would make the exact same amount of sense.

    alcoholicorn,

    It has never been literally boiling outside (except for when you’re in the middle of a forest fire or next to a lava flow).

    Besides, Fahrenheit is more scientific because it translates 1:1 to Rankine, where 0 is absolute zero.

    happyhippo,

    Rankine?

    Science says Kelvin.

    Masimatutu,

    Percent of what, exactly? It has been a lot more than 100 Fahrenheit and a lot less than 0.

    Edit: Kelvin is the scientific standard with 0 at absolute zero, and that translates directly to Celsius.

    alcoholicorn,

    Percent of how close it is to 100% hot out.

    But in seriousness, 100 was supposed to be based on the human body temperature. When it’s above 100, it’s harder to cool yourself off.

    Masimatutu,

    Are you just trolling? “100% hot out” literally doesn’t mean anything.

    Edit: Ah, I see :P

    But the human body temp isn’t 100 °F, though

    alcoholicorn,

    It’s based on how humans react to the heat, you need active cooling such as sweat, moving air isn’t enough above 100 degrees. 100% hot out is just a silly way of putting it.

    Masimatutu,

    I see. But is zero degrees Fahrenheit based on anything?

    alcoholicorn,

    Supposedly the temperature salt freezes at, but it’s off by quite a bit. I’m not sure if it has any implications for staying warm in cold weather.

    Masimatutu, (edited )

    I found it on Wikipedia. At first, he fixed zero at the stable temperature of a “mixture of ice, water, and salis Armoniaci [transl. ammonium chloride]” and 96 at the human body temperature, but later he would change the lower reference point to water’s freezing point at 32 and still later the upper one to the boiling point of water at 212. So it has always been pretty arbitrary.

    Edit: But I will agree that the scale of zero to one hundred does correspond more closely to how warm humans feel.

    Karyoplasma,

    I sweat when it’s way below 100°F because I haven’t done any sport in quite a while. Checkmate Fahrenheiters.

    doggle,

    Except you can’t. 0°C is pretty cold. If it’s 100°C out then you’re already dead.

    Masimatutu,

    100°C is an acceptable sauna temperature. You won’t last much longer naked in 0°C!

    Edit: To make my point more clear, I know some crazy people who go directly from a close to 100 degree sauna to a close to 0 degree ice bath. I think that could be described quite well as going from 100 to 0 % within the human temperature tolerance.

    Also, that’s not my initial point. My initial point was that “percent hot outside” means nothing in Fahrenheit or Celsius.

    (whoops, pressed delete instead of edit)

    SolarNialamide,

    Who the hell knows how long a kilometer or meter is?

    Everyone outside of America.

    Everyone knows what a football field looks like

    You’re either trolling or a living embodiment of the ‘Americans think the USA is the whole world’ meme. Nobody outside of the USA knows how long a football field is.

    Annoyed_Crabby,

    The heck is 50% hot out? How is that even helpful lmao

    28°c is a nice weather but 82.4°f(or 82.4% hot) sounds unlivable.

    doggle,

    Lol 82.4°F is hot af. Depending on the humidity it could be quite uncomfortable.

    Truly unlivable would be anything over 100.

    50 is fairly mild. Cool, but not really cold at all. Long sleeves, pants, maybe a light jacket weather.

    Annoyed_Crabby,

    No it’s not, as i live in the equator, and that’s the issue i have with fahrenheit. The whole thing is devoid of context and people think it makes sense naturally.

    Kusimulkku,

    Truly unlivable would be anything over 100.

    Sauna

    doggle,

    Are you trying to say people can live in a sauna? The whole point is they’re so hot you can’t (safely) stay in them too long.

    I’m obviously not saying that people spontaneously combust above that temp.

    Kusimulkku,

    You can for a while

    OKRainbowKid,

    Kinda ironic seeing somebody from hexbear defend imperial units.

    MxM111,
    @MxM111@kbin.social avatar

    Fuck, you scared me!

    helpImTrappedOnline,

    As an American, I can confidently say I’m sick of this Imperial/SAE shit.

    MxM111,
    @MxM111@kbin.social avatar

    Length, volume and mass specifically (and derivatives, like PSI). Temperature is ok.

    Omgarm,

    As a celsius user I have absolutely no need for fahrenheit. It needs more numbers when there is no need for more precision. Half a degree C is barely even noticable.

    KrankyKong,

    It’s one of those things that truly and honestly just doesn’t matter. Celsius makes more sense if you think about water freezing at 0 and boiling at 100, but beyond that it really doesn’t make a big difference.

    set_secret,

    actually water melts at 0 deg it freezes below zero.

    uis,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Freezing/melting does not have hysteresis

    set_secret,

    thanks for teaching me a new word :)

    mauwuro,
    @mauwuro@lemmy.ml avatar

    what happens at 0 F?

    I mean 0 C is when the water change its state, but then what happens at 0 F?

    dudewitbow,

    The lower point of Fahrenheight is near the freezing point of brine (salt water) which freezes at -6 F (-21 C).

    It was designed around what the coldest day at the time of its invention could get and the 100F was marked around how hot the hottest day of the year at the timr would get. Hence its choice to scale 0-100 to local weather vs celcius’ choice to use kelvin and offset it to standardize it to pure water.

    KrankyKong,

    Nothing in particular, it’s an arbitrary starting point. But that’s really not a good reason to knock it.

    Does water actually freeze at 0 celsius? It depends on the air pressure, right? I guess 0 celsius is the freezing point of water at sea level, but air pressure’s not consistent at all. I guess maybe it’s the temperature water freezes at the average air pressure at sea level? I assume that’s the case.

    The point I’m trying to make is the Celsius isn’t super rock solid either, and it really doesn’t affect anything if water freezes at 0 or 32 degrees. The best argument for celsius is that it’s standard, but that doesn’t make necessarily make it better.

    If we really cared about having a rock-solid starting point, we’d use Kelvin because you literally cannot go below 0.

    mauwuro,
    @mauwuro@lemmy.ml avatar

    yeah I was looking for something like “at 0 F something happens” as in Centigrades you can be sure that at 0C and with 1atm the water will freeze, instead of something arbitrary, so you can compare calibrate instruments

    KrankyKong,

    Well it doesn’t really matter what you were looking for lol. I promise you Fahrenheit thermometers are calibrated same as Celsius ones.

    psud,

    We live in a world rich in water. When the overnight temperature is below zero, we have frost, for example

    KrankyKong,

    Yeah, same here. When the temperature dips below 32 we get frost

    MxM111,
    @MxM111@kbin.social avatar

    I use both equally well. Since both of them are base 10, no difference whatsoever. You just know the feeling of 70F or 21C.

    slackassassin, (edited )

    Same, Fahrenheit rules.

    Edit: Fahrenheit kicks ass, I just love it.

    Edit: Sorry, still like it a lot.

    Edit: I just love the scale.

    Edit: Random thought, Fahrenheit is really great. I enjoy it and will continue to use it alongside metic units.

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